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BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 04:28 PM Jun 2013

Findings from a new Report on Guns: The US has an indisputable gun violence problem



President Obama ordered the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to assess the existing research on gun violence and recommend future studies. That report, prepared by the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council, is now complete. Its findings won’t entirely please the Obama administration or the NRA, but all of us should consider them. Here’s a list of the 10 most salient or surprising takeaways.

1. The United States has an indisputable gun violence problem. According to the report, “the U.S. rate of firearm-related homicide is higher than that of any other industrialized country: 19.5 times higher than the rates in other high-income countries.”
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2. Most indices of crime and gun violence are getting better, not worse. “Overall crime rates have declined in the past decade, and violent crimes, including homicides specifically, have declined in the past 5 years,” the report notes. “Between 2005 and 2010, the percentage of firearm-related violent victimizations remained generally stable.” Meanwhile, “firearm-related death rates for youth ages 15 to 19 declined from 1994 to 2009.” Accidents are down, too: “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”
3. We have 300 million firearms, but only 100 million are handguns. According to the report, “In 2007, one estimate placed the total number of firearms in the country at 294 million: ‘106 million handguns, 105 million rifles, and 83 million shotguns.’ ” This translates to nearly nine guns for every 10 people, a per capita ownership rate nearly 50 percent higher than the next most armed country. But American gun ownership is concentrated, not universal: In a December 2012 Gallup poll, “43 percent of those surveyed reported having a gun in the home.”
4. Handguns are the problem. Despite being outnumbered by long guns, “Handguns are used in more than 87 percent of violent crimes,” the report notes. In 2011, “handguns comprised 72.5 percent of the firearms used in murder and non-negligent manslaughter incidents.” Why do criminals prefer handguns? One reason, according to surveys of felons, is that they’re “easily concealable.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/06/handguns_suicides_mass_shootings_deaths_and_self_defense_findings_from_a.html
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Findings from a new Report on Guns: The US has an indisputable gun violence problem (Original Post) BainsBane Jun 2013 OP
Of course, there is also #7. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #1
and this BainsBane Jun 2013 #2
"19.5% higher than other high income countries"...It's a sickness and we see plenty of sickos byeya Jun 2013 #3
absolutely BainsBane Jun 2013 #4
Point about number 7: Nevernose Jun 2013 #5

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
1. Of course, there is also #7.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

7. Guns are used for self-defense often and effectively. “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year … in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008,” says the report. The three million figure is probably high, “based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys.” But a much lower estimate of 108,000 also seems fishy, “because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.” Furthermore, “Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
2. and this
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jun 2013
8. Carrying guns for self-defense is an arms race. The prevalence of firearm violence near “drug markets … could be a consequence of drug dealers carrying guns for self-defense against thieves or other adversaries who are likely to be armed,” says the report. In these communities, “individuals not involved in the drug markets have similar incentives for possessing guns.” According to a Pew Foundation report, “the vast majority of gun owners say that having a gun makes them feel safer. And far more today than in 1999 cite protection—rather than hunting or other activities—as the major reason for why they own guns.”
9. Denying guns to people under restraining orders saves lives. “Two-thirds of homicides of ex- and current spouses were committed [with] firearms,” the report observes. “In locations where individuals under restraining orders to stay away from current or ex-partners are prohibited from access to firearms, female partner homicide is reduced by 7 percent.”

I wonder why gun proponents don't get behind that last one. Probably for the same reason they oppose universal background checks.
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
3. "19.5% higher than other high income countries"...It's a sickness and we see plenty of sickos
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jun 2013

right here.
I remember the outrage when the AMA declared the obvious and said firearms are a public health issue and gave a figure of what emergency rooms had to pay to patch up those shot.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
4. absolutely
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

It's as though guns ownership is the only right that matters. They certainly don't care about the gun lobby's efforts to strip First Amendment rights from Americans.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. Point about number 7:
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jun 2013

I'd be very curious to know where Salatan got his statistics on defensive gun use. There were only ~275 to ~300 thousand reported crimes committed with guns last year.

That means his cited studies in which guns were used defensively between 500,000 and 3,000,000 times are probably totally full of shit. That would mean every single time a 7-11 got robbed at gunpoint, there were between 2 and 10 times that the robbers were foiled by an armed citizen.

Since we're speaking of murders, it would make far more sense to measure when guns are used to kill people. In 2010, there were 13,000 murder victims. In that same year, there were 665 justifiable homicides, of which 387 were people shot by police. Private citizens defending themselves made up the other 278.

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