Is Dick Cheney being prosecuted by Holder as a "leaker" or a "whistle blower"?

[Dr Fate]

I'm having an argument with a far left radical in another thread and I forgot the answer to this one.

I know that in the eyes of Obama and Holder, all leakers who compromise our security deserve justice, and Cheney is no exception.

I just cant recall the semantics- is Obama and Holder calling Cheney a leaker or a whistle-blower?

Either way he is going DOWN (Maybe he and Hong Kong Eddie can share a cell!)

[Skidmore]

1. Scooter Libbey took the fall for Cheney and remember

Cheney was po'd when Bush wouldn't grant Scooter a pardon. This is one of the reasons I have a problem with Snowden. With turning over information to other governments, he exposes intelligence networks too ( read an article about that on another thread and am trying to find it). It is no different than Cheney & Libby outing Plame in my eyes.

[Dr Fate]

2. It's no different in my eyes either. That is why Obama & Holder went after Cheney just as hard.

I cant WAIT to see the look on Cheney's face when Holder makes him do the perp walk.

Holder and Obama are not stupid enough to think that Scooter did this on his own.

This is why they are digging deeper, putting folks under oath and getting the net ready, just like with Snowden.

[Dr Fate]

3. Come on fellow centrists- I need some talking points!

Some far left radical in another thread is trying to say that Obama & Holder let Cheney off scott free for doing things worse than Snowden.

What a bald face lie this must be. We know that Obama goes after ALL leakers who compromise our security.

Any help on what they are calling him would be helpful.

According to the DOJ, was Dick Cheney a Leaker or a Whistleblower?

[BainsBane]

4. Scooter Libby was

They didn't have enough on Cheney to bring him to trial, but evidently they were close.

[Dr Fate]

5. Was this before or after the FBI tracked Cheney down and put him under oath?

No- Obama and Holder have just as many facts against "Big Time" Cheney as they do against Snowden.

My guess is that we are going to have a dual trial and put BOTH traitors under the jail.

Also, Holder and Obama are not stupid enough to think Libby did this all on his own.

They are not going to let Snowden off the hook so easy, and Cheney is not getting away with this either.

And back to the original question- Did Obama and the DOJ call Cheney a "leaker" at press conferences, or a "whistle blower"- I cant find the clips.

How do you remember it? Whatever it was, I know it was consistent with how they are going after Mr. Hong-Kong Phoohey.

[BainsBane]

9. lying under oath is perjury

not leaking or espionage. Those are separate charges. I don't remember the sequence of events.

[Dr Fate]

11. Did the DOJ call Cheney a "leaker" or a "Whistleblower"?

I'm pretty sure they called him something when they stormed the press with this issue- just like they are doing now.

LOL! I'll bet Cheney was sweating BULLETS when Obama and DEMS demanded he be put him under oath- I recall it like it was yesterday.

[BainsBane]

15. You're talking about when Obama was President?

I was talking about Fitzgerald's case against Libby.

[Dr Fate]

17. It's never too late to protect National Security from "leakers" like Cheney and Snowden.

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Assuming that is what we are supposed to call him.

What does Holder & the DOJ call Cheney? Leaker or Whistleblower?

[liberal_at_heart]

6. kick.

[Dr Fate]

19. thanks!

nt

[NCTraveler]

7. Are you looking back again.

You were told to look forward. The future is where it is at.

[Dr Fate]

8. Cheney will be doing the perp walk any day now. He was a leaker.

Hell- we dont even have to go to China to get him in cuffs.

Holder/Obama go after leakers with every fiber of their beings- any other story would be evidence that DEMS are soft on national security.

[NCTraveler]

10. Don't forget.

If the democrats didn't support all of this surveillance, GITMO, and the Patriot Act, then the Boston bombings occurred, they would lose an election. It is the political reality of their need to appear strong on security. I heard that somewhere today. When they get Cheney their national security credentials will be completely in tact. Maybe they can then send some arms and money to a truly evil faction in Syria, boosting their street cred even a little more. They will have Cheney soon enough my friend.

[Dr Fate]

14. I'll never forget how Bush's Patriot Act protects all the little children.

But the immediate question is:

While Cheney was being hunted down and while they were gearing up to jail and prosecute him, did Obama's DOJ refer to Cheney as a "leaker" or a "whistle blower"?

YES- they will have Cheney soon enough- At this quick pace, I would not be suprised if he and Snowden have a dual trial.

[sabrina 1]

12. Cheney got away with his treasonous outing of an undercover Agent because Libby took the fall for

him. Only the little people get prosecuted in the US.

[Dr Fate]

18. Obama and Holder are not that stupid. They know Cheney was behind it.

That is why they have not rested and they WILL NOT REST until Cheney is behind bars.

As we know, they go after ltraitors/leakers b/c to do otherwise would make them appear weak on security.

[leftstreet]

13. The Chinese are making you say these things, aren't they

DURec

[Dr Fate]

16. Only the ones who provide us with jobs and or loans.

I only associate with the good Chinese, not the evil ones that like Snowden.

[Dr Fate]

20. NO ONE has an answer yet? Really? Does the DOJ call Cheney a Leaker or Whistleblower?

What is the DOJ calling Cheney?

Someone refresh my memory here.

[JoeyT]

21. Or for torture, us being a nation of laws and all that.

It's a hell of a note when an admitted torturer can go on the same national television he admitted his war crimes on and scream for the head of a guy that leaked documents.

Our "justice" system is a fucking joke.

[G_j]

22. am I missing something?

I just read this whole thread, but I don't see any links to what you are talking about regarding Cheney.

[Dr Fate]

29. Obama/Holder have the political courage to go after ALL leakers, Cheney is no exception.

If you need a link to prove that, then that says more about far-left malcontents than it does about this thread.

[G_j]

32. Weird

I thought I was asking for a link, so I might understand what the hell this thread is about. Ok I'll just write it off nonsense..

[sabrina 1]

23. I definitely think, since his 'leaks' were aimed at only one person with the intention of 'punishing

him, that treason would be the most appropriate charge in Cheney's case. But it will not happen, not in our lifetimes. History however often views these events with more clarity. His 'legacy' will be what it is, not what he would like it to be. His victims, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc will have their say in the writing of his legacy.

See Pinochet! While the Brits and the US helped get him off the hook for his genocidal crimes, his legacy is being written by the victims. They are all human in the end and cannot control how they are remembered.

[MattFromKY]

24. Let's put a halt on all criminal investigations/prosecutions.

Until this one man does time for his crimes.

[Dr Fate]

26. Or, just go after the worse of the two leakers.

I'm cool either way.

I'm glad Obama is brave enough to only talk about and go after the worst of the worst, not just the easy targets.

[liberal_at_heart]

27. We can't do that. Then we couldn't go after medical marijuana patients and Occupy protesters.

[Dr Fate]

30. Holder is going to get Cheney AFTER he gets those criminals.

I cnat help it if it's the far left who has warped priorities.

[liberal_at_heart]

31. oh, okay. What a relief. I was really worried we would let the truly heinous criminals get away.

[great white snark]

25. Trying to purge out your elusive Centrists again?

They didn't have enough on Cheney but keep on chasing your windmills.

[Dr Fate]

28. I would be attacking Snowden just as hard if this was Bush or Romney.

And I know deep down in my soul that you would to.

Am I right?

If this makes me some "elusive centrist"- then so be it.

At least I'm not a far-left hypocrite- the type that only defends Snowden b/c they hate Obama.

They didnt have enough on Cheney?

I KNEW IT! I knew we had an excuse. Thanks for those details- I'll use those arguments in other threads.

Oh- but back to the OP-Did they call him a leaker or a whistle-blower? Maybe we just didnt call him the right thing.