Time for the U.S. to grow up.

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American foreign policy was apparently crafted by a seven-year-old. The administration cajoles, they whine, they threaten; when they don't get their way, they double down with more of the same.

If they want Snowden back, they're going to have to drop the bullshit about "having a meaningful discussion" and fire up an investigation into the issues which united the world behind him.

If he is still in Russia, the U.S. is applying all possible pressure to get him back. Personally, I hope Snowden makes it to Ecuador and is able to live a decent life while the mighty U.S. flails about at the mercy of a 30-year-old computer technician. If you agree, contact the Russian embassy and urge them to approve (tacitly or not) his travel from the country.

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[JustAnotherGen]

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I think they should just let him go. Seriously - let it him go. If Ecuador is willing to give him safe harbor- we shouldn't stop him from going there. All they are doing is giving Russia a bargaining chip. That's stupid.

Sacrifice the one (Snowden) for the good of the many (US Soldiers that might get snuck into Syria over another bullshit war).

Let him go live in Ecuador and instead focus on the 30 year old men and women that are going to get their damn heads blown off over nonsense.

[wtmusic]

2. Agree - but you're speaking from the position of an adult.

When a seven-year-old has been tweaked, hell hath no fury. They'll continue to make themselves look more asinine by the moment, but the end result will be positive.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Oh

I don't think they are being asinine and I certainly do not believe that President Obama is behaving like a 7 year old child. They are making sure that the Republicans don't get to pull the: They are weak on National Security card . . . in 2014.

They (The IndieTeaPubtards) were almost successful with Benghazi in 2012 but then Hurricane Sandy hit us here in NJ and they lost their story line.

I think they should publicly state - You aren't important, so Good bye. We are giving your slot as an American to a Dreamer.

[wtmusic]

4. Ironically, they're making their position worse.

The Republicans will certainly pull the national security card, but it was the Patriot Act under Bush that started this mess - so it's going to have a limited shelf life.

Sometimes politics and manipulation and campaigns and appearances just fail in the face of what's right. That's happening now, and it's delicious.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Not for me

President Obama appointed Kagan and Sotomayor. And I love him for it!

And I'm a black woman - so where am I going?

You guys can always vote with the Indie Parties. I'm not welcome there. Now with a little luck - I'll still be able to vote at the end of the week. All because he gave me a fighting chance with the SCOTUS.

Just as you take Snowden personally - I take the Voting Rights Act being on the chopping block personally.

I know we aren't the heros that Snowden is perceived to be -but we matter just as much as he does. So look down on Obama for Snowden if you want - but praise him for his SCOTUS appointments.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I take the voting rights act seriously

By the way.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. What you are actually seeing is a declining empire

Flailing for the power it once had. This is actually textbook.

There was a time that the us snapped fingers and the world bent, not any more.

Of course 35 years ago...Snowden would live in a gilded cage, not in South America. So even that tells us how much the world has changed.

The US is in shock, cause it was told no. It's not used to being told no.

I can tell you, neither of the two party elites know what to do with a firm no.

[wtmusic]

8. Exactly.

It will be interesting to see if we've learned anything in the past two thousand years about how we might right the ship again - or just sink lower in the water.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. All empires fall

They just become very dangerous at the end, in particular internally.

[wtmusic]

13. Historically, that's true.

I'd like to think that given our hindsight of past mistakes we might break that mold.

Most would regard that as incurable optimism.

[liberal_at_heart]

9. declining oversees yes, but getting a stronger chokehold on its own citizens.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. A classic, empires do turn inwards and try to control

The fall and the disturbances to come.

[Poll_Blind]

12. +1 "...neither of the two party elites know what to do with a firm no." <-- So true. nt

PB