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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:18 PM Jun 2013

NSA director: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to us

Oh sorry, that should read NSA director: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to US

National Security Agency director Keith Alexander said on Sunday that whistleblower Edward Snowden betrayed the trust of Americans and defended the broad surveillance programs as necessary to prevent another terrorist attack.

As Snowden evaded an attempt on Sunday by Washington to have him arrested in Hong Kong, General Alexander told ABC's This Week: "This is an individual who is not acting, in my opinion, with noble intent ... What Snowden has revealed has caused irreversible and significant damage to our country and to our allies."

He read from a 2012 intelligence committee report about a law that broadened the NSA's authority to perform surveillance even when US communications are involved that said after "four years of oversight, the committee has not identified a single case in which a government official engaged in wilful effort to circumvent or violate the law".

Yet last year, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence conceded publicly that the surveillance had violated the fourth amendment on at least one occasion. The circumstances behind that violation remain classified.


You can always tell whose ox has been gored by who bellows the loudest.
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NSA director: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to us (Original Post) GliderGuider Jun 2013 OP
This should be bolded nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1
Yup, there it is, in black and white Hydra Jun 2013 #21
From article: "the Director of National Intelligence conceded publicly think Jun 2013 #2
The NSA has caused irreversable damage to the USA. n/t boomer55 Jun 2013 #3
Yeah, that's what he meant, but it's not how it comes across... GliderGuider Jun 2013 #9
Yes, public knowledge of unconstitutional spying HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #4
Did I miss the Listed Details fredamae Jun 2013 #5
Really? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #6
This is what I wrote in an earlier post in another thread. premium Jun 2013 #7
+ + + byeya Jun 2013 #19
It exposed the criminal enterprise. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #8
Edward Snowden: NSA has caused irreversible damage to us carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #10
+1 GliderGuider Jun 2013 #11
So the NSA allows a 3-month employee, hired with little qualifications by a private contractor, Pale Blue Dot Jun 2013 #12
Haha this Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #13
Ha ha this. NSA Director (war criminal under Rumsferatu) has the goods on HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #17
Yeah but bobduca Jun 2013 #22
Amazing, ain't it? premium Jun 2013 #14
Yes, I hope the NSA is damaged siligut Jun 2013 #15
He is being awarded a DUzy for that statemnt but it's being kept Top Secret. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #16
Correction: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to KEITH ALEXANDER. sibelian Jun 2013 #18
Good, you piece of shit Marrah_G Jun 2013 #20
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. This should be bolded
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jun 2013


Yet last year, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence conceded publicly that the surveillance had violated the fourth amendment on at least one occasion. The circumstances behind that violation remain classified.

I wonder how many more? Watching CNN though, it's for our own good.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
21. Yup, there it is, in black and white
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:44 AM
Jun 2013

"We violated the highest law in the land"

And to think the Blue Link squad keeps saying this is legal.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. From article: "the Director of National Intelligence conceded publicly
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:24 PM
Jun 2013
that the surveillance had violated the fourth amendment on at least one occasion. The circumstances behind that violation remain classified."

Can we at least stop passing the political football on whether the 4th amendment was violated or not?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2012/07/2012-07-20-OLA-Ltr-to-Senator-Wyden-ref-Declassification-Request.pdf

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Yes, public knowledge of unconstitutional spying
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jun 2013

might cause the spigot of the money machine to be turned off, and guilty parties to be charged (or impeached).

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
5. Did I miss the Listed Details
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jun 2013

and specifics of alleged Irreversible Damage to US???

I'd rather not be taled "at" but rather "to" and I would like additional information--should We the People be asked to "take sides of credibility" withOut first being fully informed?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
7. This is what I wrote in an earlier post in another thread.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jun 2013

It is, IMHO, still relevant.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3075011


Like I'm going to believe a fucking thing the NSA/Alexander says

at this point. Liars all. The NSA needs their budget halved at least, their new facility in Utah closed, and a full, deep probing of what they've been doing since the Frank Church hearings, and while we're at it, include all the intelligence agencies to an in your ass probing of what lies they've been feeding the American people since the mid 70's.

I am so fucking angry at the govt. right now that I'm spitting nails.


Like this fuckwad has any credibility at all left?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
8. It exposed the criminal enterprise.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jun 2013

Now the public knows they're snooping on everyone, so they're likely to get leashed.

Pale Blue Dot

(16,831 posts)
12. So the NSA allows a 3-month employee, hired with little qualifications by a private contractor,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jun 2013

To possess information that would cause us "irreversible damage" if it came out?

Yeah, the problem is Snowden.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
17. Ha ha this. NSA Director (war criminal under Rumsferatu) has the goods on
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jun 2013

Obama.

Obama needs to get the goods on Alexander.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
14. Amazing, ain't it?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jun 2013

Instead of addressing the real problem, ie., spying on Americans and the whole world, he proclaims that the problem is the messenger?
Talk about cognitive disconnect.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
18. Correction: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to KEITH ALEXANDER.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jun 2013

Walked off with your shit on a thumb drive, Keith. Not looking too smart.
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