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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlex Bennett (finally) fired (Sirius XM Left). Maybe an actual Liberal host & liberal AM show now???
We'll see. If he were on some other channel, fine, but it was ridiculous that the morning drive show was as generic as anytown's morning show.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)I never understood why they cut off the last 2 hours of Bill Press' show to put him on.
Maybe they will just let Bill Press go until Stephanie Miller comes on
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)That was my first response too. Whenever I turned on my radio and heard him, I couldn't switch to another channel fast enough. Good riddance to him and his sidekicks.
thefeelgoods
(1 post)I've known about democratic underground for a long time now. Never joined the forum until now. Alex Bennett was awesome. Check yourselves because real lefties would like his show (which I signed up on his livestream account yesterday). He called out hypocrisy of the liberals just the same as the crazy right wingers. But when you get down to it, he fought the good fight. He railed like crazy when Obama took single payer off the table, and pulled his hair out when war became co-opted into the democratic base..you all woulda loved the way he handled neocons btw. Lets all just pretend we care about the working man and forget kicking him when he's down. Love the site and I think I'm gonna look around a bit
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)He didn't host a good show for that channel. He's an ok occasional show on some other channel, but I don't want to tune into my only option on XM (or regular radio for that matter) to hear Alex rant about other liberal shows as often as he does.
Or to hear Alex be uninformed as he is. Of course he has his moments. that's not the point. His "moments" don't make a good show or more importantly his pride in not being a political talk show makes for a bad show on a political talk channel.
Logical
(22,457 posts)It was not a political show. It was a variety show.
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HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Welcome to DU, and the fly-paper for newbies thread!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's fascinating.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)a minute. Now it's just a pain in the ass.
Between this topic, Zimmerman, and Snowden, DU has seen more new recruits since the 2012 election!
mrsaxde
(1 post)When XM cut Bill Press down to an hour and added Alex Bennett I gave him a chance. I had about a 15-20 minute morning drive, and during that time I almost never heard him talk politics. One day is was how big the knockers on his sidekick were. Another is was a rant that he got into the studio so early that the bagel place in the subway wasn't open yet. So adios to Mr. Bennett!
I'm not happy that they have taken Thom Hartmann and moved him to 9 PM. I liked to go right from Ed Schultz to Hartmann, and to do that now I need to stream WCPT on my ipad.
drmarconi
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I agree withthefeelgoods, Alex likes to piss off everyone when it comes to politics.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)Analysta654
(5 posts)I always thought that if they were looking for a more of a comedic approach for the morning drive time that Stephanie Miller was a much better way to go. Here or someone like her; meaning (1) smart, (2) funny AND (3) politically savvy. Bennett maybe has 1 out of the 3 (smart), but I'm not too sure about that even.
sr71
(3 posts)i guess xm gave alex his 1 year trial...which was 365 days too long...thank goodness he's gone!
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Kolesar
(31,182 posts)That's when I quit listening.
He was dreadfully boring and awful.
trumad
(41,692 posts)But the morning drive? The guy bored me silly.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)That guy is awful.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)The XM subscribers really got shafted with all the crap brought over from Sirius and he was among the worst.
I'm glad he's gone... At the time I last listened, his show was nothing more than him deriding Obama and everyone on the Left, in between his leering flirtations at the young girl he hired to produce--basicially to talk about her own sex life, with constant reference to anal sex--- that was Sirius' view of ENTERTAINMENT? Uggh.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)Bill Press, Stephanie, Big Eddie, Thom Hartman, Milke Malloy... just because one jerk was on and you had the choice not to listen to him?
Genius! Genius I tells you!
Sheesh.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)or through direct streaming.
I've been a long term XM subscriber and still listen to other channels, including MSNBC and various public radio stations, but yes, I think much of the crap brought over from Sirius was just that--crap. And first and foremost among those was Alex Bennett.
Truly, I may or may not be the "genius" you denounce, but I surely do not know how YOU can defend having Alex Bennett on the only progressive station.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)I was remarking on the 'genius' of ignoring the other hosts that ARE progressive on that channel. Because you didn't have to listen to Alex Bennett. You could use one of two remarkable things while he was on. Channel Selector and Off Button.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)attacking others for expressing a counter view on their programming is not very effective in gaining loyalty... The fact is that the time slot they gave that cretin Bennett was the prime time I was ABLE to listen... so yeah, I do have a right to complain.
And, I know you know that I have been with XM since well before the Air America days, so I really don't deserve those comments.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)I have never worked for XM. If you have something to say otherwise, prove it.
... and I had XM the first weekend it was on sale. $50 coupon that was stack-able (didn't last long). So I paid like $10 for a XM, Car and Home kit.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)I always have to listen to Stephanie Miller on I Heart radio on my phone during my morning commute when daylight savings time ends.
(Arizona is not afraid of the dark and all our national TV and radio schedules change twice a year when the rest of the country switches for daylight savings)
A hassle I will no longer have to deal with.
Alex Bennett sucks big time!
I think I'll even send an e mail to Sirus/XM to thank them.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)I did google search and got nothing...
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Analysta654
(5 posts)Bennett was whining about his firing this morning. I am surprised they let him back on air for a week, since apparently they notified him sometime last week, but whatever; I'm just happy to see him going. I have never enjoyed his show, and only tolerate it sometimes when there is absolutely nothing else on during my 1.25-2hr (depending on traffic) drive to work. He was/is consistently vulgar (although someone must have spoke to him as seems to have cleaned it up just a bot as of late). Ad to the vulgarity a lack of knowledge of current events, polished with arrogance (why I do not know) and you have a lethally obnoxious combination. Heck, I dislike him so badly that I've taken to listening to coast-to-coast and learning about the many forms of alien contact we should be expecting any day now.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)leech598
(1 post)He never wanted to be on Sirius 127. He asked to be on Stars 104, or Indie now, but they asked him to go to 127.
sr71
(3 posts)i agree 100%
RZM
(8,556 posts)Bennett's show was just straight-up boring. Hope he's replaced with somebody more interesting.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)I listened to Bennett off and on when Joe Madison isn't on live he was boring as hell he did have a lot of liberal views he always would say I'm a liberal not a democrat
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I think he used to be on CNN Crossfire.
marmar
(77,081 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,554 posts)I never understood why they didn't put it on the Talk Channel (now 246) instead. Right now Mr. Conspiracy Glen Beck is on 246 in that time slot and he's also on the "Patriot" Channel at the same time. Why have any one program on 2 channels at once?
I sure hope we get Bill Press back for the balance of his show, and the first hour of Stephanie again.
It would be a good idea for we subscribers to suggest that to them.
leeroysphitz
(10,462 posts)Bennett's show is, or was, a perfect example.
BigD_95
(911 posts)Time.
bring back Bill Press
cybrshrk
(2 posts)I'm not an everyday listener, but tuned in this morning. I liked his 'attacks' on just about anyone. Keeps my mind open. I don't want to be spoon fed the "our team is great" BS that comes from most political talk. That's the Limbaugh radio model and I find it boring and unintelligent. I'm begging Left to please not put Stephanie Miller show on in that slot. That show is horrible. First, it isn't funny. The jokes are juvenile, at best. The hosts talk over one another constantly trying to one up each other. Maybe that would be good if the jokes were funny...but they aren't. If you're going to build a show around a comedy spin, the first thing required is BE FUNNY! Not even close. I love Ed Schultz but his show comes on at a time I can't listen because of work. I miss him doing weekdays on MSNBC.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)his show often wasn't about politics at all. Why be on that channel? I can hear other shit on countless other channels and stations. Secondly, a lot of condemnations of liberal hosts is silly - many times it's because "I met him and don't like him."
He doesn't like the young "yuppie" MSNBC hosts. Fine, but I don't give a shit how young they are - they are much better informed than he is. Also Chris Hayes and Maddow do take the administration to task. Ed did too. So did Keith for that matter.
cybrshrk
(2 posts)I am a big fan of Maddow, Ed, Keith and Lawrence. I'm not saying Alex was perfect, because if he was I would listen everyday. My point was for me it is good that he isn't a 24/7 cheerleader of progressive talk/TV. I don't listen to be programmed. I listen for a discussion of issues that I can go out and research and make my own decisions about. Anyone that doesn't challenge the "team" is suspicious to me. I lose no sleep if Alex is gone. I really have no dog in that fight. I'm hopeful that time slot won't be filled with chaotic banter, humorless jokes that only the host laugh at and me being force fed the idea that everything is rainbows and jellybeans in Liberal Land. Because it's not. On a side note, even though I loved Keith's shows...he does sound like he's a huge tool to deal with.
Analysta654
(5 posts)You indicate that you don't listen everyday, but "like his attacks on just about anyone". Hmm, interesting, even when he contradicts himself, and just attacks with no valid criticism. For instance at one point he was talking up Al Sharpton - about how Sharption was something different for MSNBC, then a month or so later Bennett was saying Sharpton was the worst. I may agree with the latter sentiment, but at least he should be consistent. His praise or criticism swings from one extreme to the other. In Bennett's discussions either the person is great or they suck. Can't he just disagree without writing them off overall. Being critical of those with whom you generally agree is OK, but just being negative to be negative is ignorant, and shows a laziness if not an inability to to research the topic at hand and take an opposing position from a nuanced perspective. That 's how you get people to think.
LynnGwyst
(2 posts)When Bennett first took over the morning slot, a lot of us were upset over the time being taken away from Stephanie Miller and Bill Press. Alex assured us that he would grow on us and we would eventually like him, after about two weeks. It's been the longest damned two weeks in history. I might be inclined to listen to him occasionally in another time slot, but 3 hours in the morning has been a pain in the ear.
rainy
(6,091 posts)I would love to listen to Stephanie Miller on the way to work each day.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)Between Alex Bennett and Lynn Samuels, there used to be two major time slots on Sirius Left every single day that were occupied by people who criticized Democrats every bit as vehemently as a right-wing screamer. I couldn't take it. And Alex Bennett's show was, what, like 18 hours long or something? Maybe now they'll put an actual left-wing host on Sirius Left.
I enjoyed listening to Bill Press, but his show was only an hour long, and as soon as he went off the air, it was time to change the channel before Alex Bennett came on and started railing against Democrats.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... many years before I heard him on Sirius Left. He seemed like a pretty good talker for the days that station was big on "Modern Rock" format back in the 80's and early 90's... Didn't care for his political talk as much, but he wasn't as bad as Samuels. Especially when Samuels was displacing two hours of Thom Hartmann in those days which in my book was a cardinal sin for a left wing channel. At least she's gone now though... RIP...
Maybe they'll find some room to get the Young Turks back on, since they used to have them on Sirius Left many years back, and might be a good time to do it if Cenk parts ways with Al Jazeera/Current some time soon, though obviously I don't think Cenk wants to do that time slot.
Perhaps another person to consider for this time if they could also have Bill Press's and Stephanie Miller's channels on a parallel channel would be to get Carl Wolfson, who was recently forced off the air at KPOJ when Clear Channel shut down liberal talk on that station here in Portland. He's now doing just internet streaming of his show. He used to team up with Thom Hartmann a lot when Thom was here in Portland.
c588415
(285 posts)I am sort of reluctant to slam a fellow progressive . Nevertheless, Mr. Bennet shocked me the other day with his "F word" rant. He is an intelligent man who speaks his mind. I agree with some of Mr Bennet's views, while I strongly disagree with others. What's more, I didn't like his constant verbal attacks on other progressives. Bottom line, most progressive commentators I have listen to know how to annihilate their neocon opponents without the use of the " F word", and I'm sure Mr. Bennet could have done the same.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)It's fine to disagree and it's welcome. Great, but he did it in a very shallow way.
bermudat
(1,329 posts)I use to wonder what dirt he has on the radio station that he was
allowed to stay on the air. He was repugnant.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)nycplayboy78
(1 post)I hope that they put Mike Malloy in his place...Mike would curse those right wing tea fucks out.....
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Kali
(55,011 posts)try a less offensive username next time
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)a 'meeting place' of sorts.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I was "reduced" to listening to Joe and Mika on my morning commute! Oh I hope, I hope they put Bill Press back on. Fingers crosed.
Analysta654
(5 posts)You must have more tolerance for B.S. than I do. I am not able to take Joe, Mika and the gang. My alternate radio is coast-to-coast AM. That's started to get boring lately, what with every crackpot coming out of he word works and expounding on strange stories on everything.
WilliamS
(1 post)I'm kinda glad to see him go... He was a little too self absorbed to be enjoyable... I do however love MIP...mark Thompson is a bit arrogant at times, but at least there's some substance to the show...
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)but overall enjoy him
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Alex was practically begging for callers every day when I occasionally listened.
I didn't care much for it because it was too vulgar for my kids to hear, and it was dull. Alex recites too much ancient history, and his sidekicks were not well informed. It was time for Alex to go.
I'd rather have Bill Press and Mama and the Mooks.
Conway_Stewart
(10 posts)I used to listen to Alex each morning on my drive to work as I enjoy Sirius Left. However, I was becoming increasingly tired of his show.
Alex was never prepared for his show. He claimed that he wanted to be able to speak spontaneously but it seemed more like a rationalization for laziness. He frequently lacked a basic knowledge of current events despite the fact he spoke about them daily.
He was quick to lose his temper with callers whose views differed from his but did not have the intellectual capacity to out-debate them; rather, he'd just yell, talk over the top of them, and hang up. No better than the Right Wing talk radio whackos...I expect a higher standard from the Left because we are better than them and smarter than them.
Over the past couple of months I found Alex's show to be unlistenable. I thus switched over to the ESPN Sports Channel and began listening to Mike and Mike on my morning drive (those guys are pretty good if you like Sports Talk).
Anyway, I heard David Lee Roth will be hosting on an interim basis this week until they find a permanent replacement.
David Lee Roth??? WTF??? This will probably be even worse than Alex. Sirius needs to get their act together sooner than later before I become a permanent sports radio junkie!
GO JAYS GO!!!
guyonearth
(1 post)It was actually entertaining, unlike most political "commentators", who are generally clueless about actually being funny. Sirius made a big mistake, they don't know good material when they see it.
Logical
(22,457 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)he a lefty? What is the problem with him.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)and bore me silly. I have no faith that XM will hire anyone that they would have to pay.
Logical
(22,457 posts)times and got no response.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Before he was on KILT-AM as Alex Bennett, he was "James Bond".
Not that good.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Some rich guy, former CEO, currently the "Liberal" on some Fox News business show (seriously). Listened for a few minutes on the first day, mostly conservative guests and conservative/libertarian callers, because "we want to hear from all points of view" blah blah blah. Not very promising.
womanofthehills
(8,712 posts)I would usually turn him off. I love Steph and Randi!!!
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Lynn "Oboooooooomma's an asshole" Samuels had to shove off the mortal coil to be gotten rid of.
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leeroysphitz
(10,462 posts)prefering an echo chamber. I get that but regardless of his politics I found Bennet to be BORING. Like listening to paint dry boring.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)Seems the anarchists have arrived.
The America Left station format was politics and Bennett made sure that he was anything but. He rambled on like Caribou Barbie.
They need to allow Bill Press his full time and then segue to Miller.
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BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)from OTA talk radio stations in many top media markets - well before Sirius or XM or SiriusXM existed. I have heard the best of the best and the worst of the worst. From "old school" rethugs like Rev. Les Kinsolving, Bob Grant, & Curtis Sliwa, and even here in Philly - Irv homer. I even heard Limpballs the very 1st day he came on the air on WABC, when his show booted the turncoat Lynn Samuels out of her noon slot (as she announced that day). Alternately I have listened to black progressive talk (eg., the former Radio One line-up including Joe Madison, Mark Thompson, Warren Ballentine), as there are few "liberal" stations left outside of a handful here and there (but not in Philly) or black-owned talk radio.
Bennett was a waste of that slot.
Stations that do well tend to program to generate a "flow" from host to host and show to show. They don't have to all lock-step, but there is a segue. Bennett, on the other hand, jarringly interrupted the flow like a jagged rock thrown into a smooth stream.
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Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)When I was teenager, Bennett was a DJ on KILT radio and was "James Bond" with fake British accent and all. One evening, James Bond was gone, and in his place was Alex Bennett, and the show became a talk show focused on current affairs in the world for young people. I developed a social conscience listening to Alex Bennett advocate for civil rights and human rights. Then, just as abruptly as he came, he was gone. I've never forgotten that he opened my mind to a lot of things in the world when I was 16.
Omaha Steve
(99,653 posts)I was so mad when Sirius took Bill Press off my drive time to work for Alex Bennett. I never liked Bennett but was probably influenced by my anger with Sirius.
I just wish they had gone back to Bill instead of the Rick Ungar Show. I am listening to him though.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)I just found out about this minutes ago!
I knew from Bill Press's Current TV simulcast that his program was going off Sirius Left. Press announced it, and informed listeners/viewers of alternative methods to tune in his radio program. And I see that the 6 a.m. ET is now The Agenda with Ari Rabin-Havt. Oh!
And it's well past time that Stephanie Miller's program was played out in its entirety. (Sirius Left, on ch. 127, is being renamed Sirius Progress. Bill Press's program is on, at 6 a.m. ET, the Internet-accessed Sirius Left Plus, on ch. 781.)
@ http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmleft?p=1283872745429
@ http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmleft?p=1283872745429
@ http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmleftplus/weeklyschedule
I did not know until now that Alex Bennett's program was taken off Sirius XM.
My feeling with him was mixed.
I applaud someone who says he's a liberal, generally, before being a Democrat. It used to be that Republicans were liberal and the Democrats were conservative. (Think of an inverse of today's electoral map of which states were base ones for the two parties.)
With Bennett, I had too difficult a read on him. Would some say he was in the way of a centrist or a moderate? (Admittedly, I wasn't tuned in often enough to distinguish; but I'm certain he wasn't genuinely liberal. Bennett, for example, defended Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in that recall election, from 2012, because Bennett figured that when a state's voters elect a governor, the citizenry should not turn around later to try to recall him. That was the extent of Bennett's regard for that particular situation.)
Alex Bennett is an old man. There is nothing wrong being old. But, it hurt him that he was so out of touch. He did not belong on the Siriux XM Left. In fact, when one compares that Bennett was on that station while Mike Malloy, who is truly ethical in his arguments, and is truly liberal, Bennett was one of the last people appropriate for that programming channel. The only one who struck me as obviously worse was the late Lynn Samuels, who copped to being a "birther" but, in reality, had flipped out for reasons I don't quite understand (because, like with Bennett, I didn't follow Samuels too much. That may have been good for me).
I used to subscribe to Sirius XM Radio. I canceled my subscription early this year due to personal matters. I may end up getting into it again. I hope to come across, here at Democratic Underground, any information here about the replacement program, The Agenda with Ari Rabin-Havt. (Thank you, in advance, as well as to the OP of this thread!)
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Press were back and not happy that Thom Hartmann is gone. Both are good solid liberal personalities.