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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:24 PM Jun 2013

AP Source: NSA leaker Snowden's passport revoked

WASHINGTON (AP) — The former National Security Agency contractor who disclosed a highly classified surveillance program has had his U.S. passport revoked.

A U.S. official on Sunday said Edward Snowden's passport was annulled before he left Hong Kong for Russia. Snowden's travel plans could be complicated — but not thwarted — by a lack of passport. The U.S. official said that if a senior official in a country or airline ordered it, a country could overlook the withdrawn passport.

The former contractor is said to be in Moscow and his allies at anti-secrecy WikiLeaks say Snowden is bound for Ecuador. The foreign minister there says he has requested asylum.

The U.S. official would only discuss the passport on the condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the matter.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-source-nsa-leaker-snowdens-passport-revoked

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And I am sure Russia, Cuba, and Ecaudor care about this. Or, not so much. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #1
My, my... boys this is too late nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2
That is a DANGER sign. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #3
Interesting... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #5
That might be the trigger to a much needed revolution. JW2020 Jun 2013 #6
People who are happy about the idea of a revolution should see an actual one happening Recursion Jun 2013 #7
Jefferson? JW2020 Jun 2013 #10
You don't think we would have been better off going the way Canada did? Recursion Jun 2013 #12
Their head of state is still the queen. JW2020 Jun 2013 #17
Yeah, I spend all my waking hours groaning under London's lash for sure... (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #19
Three votes to hide Thomas Jefferson BainsBane Jun 2013 #21
So you think we should have remained loyal to the Crown? Things got worse after Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #13
I'd rather we had gone the way of Canada, personally Recursion Jun 2013 #15
So remaining loyal to the crown would have been your choice in 76. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #18
I suspect there will be an "accident" of some type. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #11
Very interesting angle you bring up... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #16
Closing the barn door after the horses escaped. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #4
Sort of. It forces the issue with whatever country takes him. It's fairly standard for fugitives Recursion Jun 2013 #8
Your information is very incorrect. Very few countries issue exit Visas. Saudi Arabia, Qaatar, Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
Nope. I'm looking at my EU* exit visa right now from Austria, and one from Turkey Recursion Jun 2013 #22
oh oh.....you said magic words guarenteed to get NSA attention dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #23
How about them apples? kentuck Jun 2013 #9
No, it's at the discretion of the country he's going to Recursion Jun 2013 #14

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. That is a DANGER sign.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jun 2013

Remember that the US had revealed that it lifted passports of Americans who later became drone targets.
And the UK had announced the same process for its ex-citizens.
There was a whole discussion of it here on DU not too long ago.

ahhh...here...found it..

Former British citizens killed by (US) drone strikes after passports revoked

The government has secretly ramped up a controversial programme that strips people of their British citizenship on national security grounds – two of whom have been subsequently killed by US drone attacks.
Critics of the programme warn that it also allows ministers to ‘wash their hands’ of British nationals suspected of terrorism who could be subject to torture and illegal detention abroad.
They add that it also allows those stripped of their citizenship to be killed or ‘rendered’ without any onus on the British government to intervene.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022443754

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
5. Interesting...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:12 PM
Jun 2013

That's a pretty important post. I swear, if Snowden gets taken out by a drone, my head is going to explode.

Scary times we're living in.

TYY

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. People who are happy about the idea of a revolution should see an actual one happening
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jun 2013

They never make things better.

 

JW2020

(169 posts)
10. Jefferson?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jun 2013

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

BainsBane

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21. Three votes to hide Thomas Jefferson
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013
I was juror number 3.

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Bluenorthwest

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13. So you think we should have remained loyal to the Crown? Things got worse after
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jun 2013

independence? Never is a very large word.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. I'd rather we had gone the way of Canada, personally
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jun 2013

I think it would have solved a lot of problems better than they in fact got solved.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. So remaining loyal to the crown would have been your choice in 76.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jun 2013

I'm not surprised, but it is rare to hear Americans long for King and crown.

dixiegrrrrl

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11. I suspect there will be an "accident" of some type.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jun 2013

Best for him if he stays away from hotel windows above the first floor, etc.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
16. Very interesting angle you bring up...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jun 2013

...and we all knew there would be no drone strike against him in Hong Kong. I don't think we can be so confident there will be no drone strike against him in Ecuador.

Well if that should happen, I think there will be hell to pay. I hope it doesn't come to that.

Recursion

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8. Sort of. It forces the issue with whatever country takes him. It's fairly standard for fugitives
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jun 2013

If the country he's going to has been notified of the revocation, they can't issue a standard entry visa (this is further complicated by the fact that the US is virtually the only country that doesn't give exit visas, which is responsible for 90% of our illegal immigration problem). But they can issue an extraordinary visa to anyone they want to.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Your information is very incorrect. Very few countries issue exit Visas. Saudi Arabia, Qaatar,
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013

Uzbekistan, Nepal, Cuba until this year, China sort of but not really and Russia under some situations. That's about it. Your claim that we are virtually the only one that does not is very incorrect. Exit Visas are generally seen as a violation of human rights.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. Nope. I'm looking at my EU* exit visa right now from Austria, and one from Turkey
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jun 2013

And, turning the page, one from India.

The EU doesn't require a match with an entrance visa (or at least, they don't look very hard). Turkey's has to actually be on the other half of the entry sticker. Not doing that really is pretty much a North American thing.

* OK, strictly, EEA, not just EU.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. No, it's at the discretion of the country he's going to
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jun 2013

North Korean defectors rarely have valid passports when they get here, for instance (I'm not saying we're North Korea, just giving an example). What they can't do is issue a normal entrance visa.

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