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(8,155 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:09 PM Jun 2013

Are Americans the enemy if Snowden is a traitor?

Senator Bill Nelson has said what Snowden did was "treasonous." If treason means providing aid and comfort to an enemy of the state and Snowden was leaking the information to the American people, does that make the American people an enemy of the state?

Hmmm

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Are Americans the enemy if Snowden is a traitor? (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 OP
You missed the part about running to China with classified information. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #1
He fled to China to avoid arrest. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #3
Sure, he fled to China to avoid arrest WITH stolen classified information... cynatnite Jun 2013 #4
That's not treasonous. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #7
I never said it was. You missed the part about running off to China... cynatnite Jun 2013 #9
"There is no evidence he gave information to the Chinese" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #13
Apparently so. Th1onein Jun 2013 #2
Pogo: Downwinder Jun 2013 #5
Hong Kong Eddie did not commit treason Progressive dog Jun 2013 #6
We have been the enemy for quite some time. Think about it... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #8
yes Marrah_G Jun 2013 #10
He is not being charged with treason treestar Jun 2013 #11
How could that hurt us? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #14
Yeah, I think we are, that's how they seem to think of us in DC anyway. bemildred Jun 2013 #12

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
4. Sure, he fled to China to avoid arrest WITH stolen classified information...
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jun 2013

That's why he's being called a traitor and all that.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
7. That's not treasonous.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jun 2013

He would have to provide such information to a state or other enemy. Otherwise it's just theft of classified information. Which is not treason.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
9. I never said it was. You missed the part about running off to China...
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jun 2013

I said that it was why he's being called a traitor and all that.

Treason and traitor gets thrown around so much that I doubt half the people who use it knows the meanings.

Progressive dog

(6,918 posts)
6. Hong Kong Eddie did not commit treason
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jun 2013

and Bill Nelson does not run the DoJ.
"The United States charged Snowden with theft of government property, unauthorized communication of national defense information and willful communication of classified communications intelligence to an unauthorized person, according to the June 14 criminal complaint made public on Friday."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. He is not being charged with treason
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jun 2013

that does not apply.

And in giving the info to the American public, he also gave it out to everyone else, including enemies, no? Do you fail to understand it could hurt us in some way?

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