Edward Snowden Criminal Complaint Public Document

[JaneyVee]

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/716865-snowden-complaint.html

[JimDandy]

1. How about a little more instead of forcing us to go to an unknown link. n/t

[JaneyVee]

2. I'm not forcing you to do anything. Take control of your life.

[JimDandy]

13. You put it up.

Sometimes Opers on DU post only a link:
1. to get us to go to the web page they're pushing in order to raise the site's exposure on search engines and they do this by posting a headline-grabbing title with no content, so the only option for those interested is to click on the link;
2. because they're lazy;
3. because they're in a hurry;
4. or infrequently, the OPer can't copy/paste (as the below poster noted).

Don't know which reason was yours. I WAS interested. I'm not now. I didn't click.

Take control of that.

[JaneyVee]

20. I bet you did click the link.

[JimDandy]

23. PLEEEAASE play poker with me.

I need the extra cash. Nice of the poster downstream to put up a copy of the pdf...something which YOU could have done. Not going to bump your thread any further. See you around the forum...

[okaawhatever]

4. I tried to cut and past and it wouldn't let you. nt

[JimDandy]

14. Thanks for your considerate reply!

[Hissyspit]

5. It's a PDF.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. The link is fine. n/t

[reusrename]

12. This should mean a public trial is coming. He was charged with theft, a property crime.

http://rt.com/usa/snowden-charged-espionage-sealed-092/

[OilemFirchen]

16. Your editorial comment is hilarious!

Did you mean it to be?

"This should mean a public trial is coming. He was charged with theft, a property crime."

[grasswire]

17. an open trial?

a dog and pony show?

Kabuki theater?

What will result?

[dkf]

6. It says contributed by Charles Savage, NYT on the opposite side.

[ohheckyeah]

7. It says on the right hand side of the page:

Contributed by: Charles Savage, The New York Times

[Hissyspit]

18. I meant who gave to Savage, but actually meant to delete my comment.

One page is not a leak?

Savage is not the leaker, he's a REPORTER.

[msanthrope]

19. I bet the DOJ did. It's a week old, which means the indicment isn't far behind. nt

[ohheckyeah]

31. It doesn't say who gave it to Savage. n/t

[JaneyVee]

8. Saw it from Charlie Savage here:

https://twitter.com/charlie_savage/status/348223563276361729

[msanthrope]

10. Espionage. It will be interesting to see the indictment. nt

[JaneyVee]

11. Apparently he isn't being charged with espionage.

[msanthrope]

15. 18 USC 793(d) is an espionage charge. It's not McCarran, (section (e)) but

from the 1917 Act.

His indictment will probably list who the unauthorized persons are. That will be interesting.

[JaneyVee]

22. Okay, I see. He's charged under the Espionage section of the legal code, but not with spying for any

Government. So he's charged under the Espionage Act, but not with Espionage.

[msanthrope]

24. No--the unauthorized person(s) have not been named. It could be any person or nation. nt

[treestar]

27. That is a section title

the charges themselves

18 USC 641 Theft of property and records

18 USC 793 Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

18 USC 798 Disclosure of classified information

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. You will NEVER see it. It's so transparent; it's invisible. n/t

[msanthrope]

29. Why? We saw the complaint. nt

[treestar]

21. 10 years is the maximum sentence

for each charge.

[msanthrope]

26. I suspect the indictment will contain multiple charges. nt

[treestar]

28. Would they add up to life possibly?

No death penalty anyway.

[msanthrope]

30. I think prosecutors will pursue the equivalent of a life sentence. nt