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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:55 PM Jun 2013

Bleach enemas for kids, to treat autism. What. The. Fuck...

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/06/18/no-matter-how-often-i-read-about-treatments-like-this-i-still-cant-believe-parents-actually-subject-their-children-to-them/

No matter how often I read about treatments like this, I still can’t believe parents actually subject their children to them

It’s been a while since I’ve written about MMS. You remember MMS, don’t you? It’s an abbreviation for “miracle mineral solution,” a solution first promoted by a man who is inaptly named Jim Humble. Basically, as I’ve described in multiple blog posts, MMS is bleach, specifically chlorine dioxide (ClO2). I first became acutely aware of it a little more than a year ago, when I noticed that the antivaccine autism biomed quackfest known as Autism One featured a talk by a woman named Kerri Rivera, who advocated using MMS to “bleach autism away,” as I put it at the time. Of course, Jim Humble doesn’t limit his use of MMS to just autism, but, like all good cranks, touts it as a near universal cure-all that is good for just about anything that ails you. So what’s so bad about using it for autism?

What caught my eye (and horrified me to think about it) was that Kerri Rivera was advocating the use of MMS enemas to treat autism. Yes, Kerri Rivera advocated subjecting autistic children to bleach enemas and has made videos touting this as a biomedical treatment for autism. As I noted back then, even worse (if that were possible), Rivera advocated “fever therapy” and characterized fevers after bleach enemas to be a good thing, a sign that the treatment is “working,” much as Jim Humble gives MMS to treat adults in increasing doses until they start to feel ill. (Personally, as a physician, I would be very concerned at a child becoming febrile after having ingested bleach or had it shot up his rectum. Not Kerri Rivera, apparently.) Indeed, Rivera even exults about how much she loves “fever therapy” and how it “wakes up the immune system.” In addition to the bleach enemas, she recommends a “72-2? protocol that involves making children drink dilute bleach every two hours for 72 hours.

If there’s one thing that Kerri Rivera appears to do that deceives parents (besides the rather obvious claim she makes that ingesting bleach or making enemas out of it will do anything but risk potential poisoning and injury to the rectum and the lining of the colon) is the claim that MMS eliminates “parasites.” Much as advocates of “colon cleanses” claim that what’s coming out represents years of accumulated waste that’s making you sick or, even more appropriately, as advocates of “liver flushes” try to convince their unwitting marks that the little lumps of saponified oil that come through the stool due to the cleanse are in actuality gallstones being “flushed” out of the liver. advocates of bleach enemas, it would appear, claim that what comes out in the stool are “parasites” and “worms.” I learned this from a particularly horrifying blog I came across a while back, thanks to a reader, known as A Drop At a Time: The CD Journey of a Child With Autism (the “CD” part stands for chlorine dioxide). It’s the story of a mother subjecting her child to MMS treatments, including both oral ingestion of MMS and MMS enemas.




More at link.

Sid
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Bleach enemas for kids, to treat autism. What. The. Fuck... (Original Post) SidDithers Jun 2013 OP
I keep pointing out that Idiocracy is a documentary. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #1
I bring it up in many conversations/posts...... alittlelark Jun 2013 #17
that's just horrendous abuse. you wanna do that to yourself? fine cali Jun 2013 #2
This is just simple child abuse, nothing more or less! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2013 #3
this is just fucking terrifying dlwickham Jun 2013 #4
Trepanning is good therapy too steve2470 Jun 2013 #5
There's a subculture out there for that one Warpy Jun 2013 #15
wow I'm speechless steve2470 Jun 2013 #16
Yep, they just keep digging down deeper, out of sight Warpy Jun 2013 #19
Kellogs got its start through quakery. Now the vast majority feed their children unhealthy crap Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #6
They weren't Quakers jberryhill Jun 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #10
Haha! Nice! I'm going to leave my spelling error because I love your post sooo much! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #11
There should be a rule jberryhill Jun 2013 #12
Whole grains are not "unhealthy crap". kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #29
What the hell do bleach enemas for autistic HappyMe Jun 2013 #30
absolutely sickening. the same mentality that advocated lysol douches for women years ago niyad Jun 2013 #7
IT is NOT bleach - the writer is misinforming others 2Design Jun 2013 #9
A lot of chlorine compounds are "bleach" jberryhill Jun 2013 #13
What is it? n/t ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #14
It's bleach. JoeyT Jun 2013 #18
you do this treatment daily? snooper2 Jun 2013 #23
Kick and Rec and zappaman Jun 2013 #20
This is an extreme example of where credulous belief in medical woo can lead... SidDithers Jun 2013 #25
this is a great post sid SwampG8r Jun 2013 #21
The blog mentioned at the end of the excerpt is, indeed, horrifying. Brickbat Jun 2013 #22
It appears a lot of people would drink Brawndo. Rex Jun 2013 #24
second time this AM that I've rec'd a SidD thread.... mike_c Jun 2013 #26
Holy smokes! HappyMe Jun 2013 #27
These people are dangerously delusional. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #28
She should be put in jail for that MattBaggins Jun 2013 #31

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
17. I bring it up in many conversations/posts......
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:20 AM
Jun 2013

It is a documentary sent back from the future as a warning.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. that's just horrendous abuse. you wanna do that to yourself? fine
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jun 2013

but it's abuse when you do it to a kid.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,704 posts)
3. This is just simple child abuse, nothing more or less!
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

Anyone doing that, or advocating doing that, should be in trouble with the law.

I am sickened to read this.

indeed.


Warpy

(111,342 posts)
15. There's a subculture out there for that one
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jun 2013

They perform it on each other, saying it "opens the third eye."

I am not making this up.

You can never plumb the depths of human lunacy. The loonies just keep on digging.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
16. wow I'm speechless
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jun 2013
These people , if this was serious, would be in the same league.

eta: Ok, I assumed wrongly. They ARE serious. WTF.

Warpy

(111,342 posts)
19. Yep, they just keep digging down deeper, out of sight
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jun 2013

for the most part, appearing only sporadically at some of the weirder conventions.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
6. Kellogs got its start through quakery. Now the vast majority feed their children unhealthy crap
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jun 2013

to start their day.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #8)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. There should be a rule
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jun 2013

There's nothing weirder than a thread where someone had an amusing typo or whatever, and then went back and fixed it post-mirth.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. A lot of chlorine compounds are "bleach"
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 12:17 AM
Jun 2013

While "Clorox" is a dilute sodium hypochlorite bleach, chorine dioxide is a bleach used in paper manufacturing.

The word "bleach" does not refer to any specific chemical.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
25. This is an extreme example of where credulous belief in medical woo can lead...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jun 2013

and why we should all refuse to allow dangerous medical woo to be posted unopposed at DU.



Sid

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
21. this is a great post sid
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:41 AM
Jun 2013

desperate people doing desperate things
thanks for posting this sid
now I am going to do something I never would have predicted
im going up and reccing a sid dithers post

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