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From RH Reality Check:
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2013/06/17/texas-congressman-masturbating-fetuses-prove-need-for-abortion-ban/
Watch a sonogram of a 15-week baby, and they have movements that are purposeful, said Burgess, a former OB/GYN. They stroke their face. If theyre a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. If they feel pleasure, why is it so hard to believe that they could feel pain?
That observation led Burgess to say he had argued for the abortion ban to start at a much earlier stage of gestation, 15 or 16 weeks. (This is less than halfway through a pregnancy.) He appeared to liken Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion, to the 1893 Plessy v. Ferguson decision that formally legalized racial segregation, and was not fully reversed until Congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
The rationale for the Republican bill, which advanced through the House Judiciary last week on a near-total party-line vote, is one scientifically disputed study, touted by Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) in his opening remarks at todays Rules Committee hearing, that asserts fetuses can feel pain as early as 20 weeks after sperm meets egg.
These people are crazy. CRAY. ZEE.
ETA: Michael Burgess is an OB/GYN, folks. Ick.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:55 PM - Edit history (1)
yet you brainless moron. It's called 'science', and it has been proven that they have no sensory perception until 24 weeks.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Burgess is supposed to be a doctor, you know. And talking bull like this? Just unbelievable.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)No one should have the right to force someone to be pregnant if they choose not to be. Isn't that the issue at hand?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Did you mean: Because their central nervous system is 'NOT' formed...
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)edited.
Skittles
(153,171 posts)the females - well, we have to REGULATE that area!!!
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)How many ways is Burgess wrong here? The world may never know...
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Unless there is a way to tie their little arms up in utero.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Also, it looks like this may be the same Michael Burgess, unless there was another person with the same name practicing in the same town in the same hospital.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/almanac/member/68#biography
Professional Career: Practicing obstetrician, 1981-2003.
Burgess grew up in Denton County, the son of a physician, and graduated from the University of North Texas and the University of Texas Medical School in Houston. He trained at Parkland Hospital in Dallas and set up an obstetrics-gynecology practice in Lewisville. After 21 years in practice, Burgess decided to run for Congress, his first bid for elective office.
http://www.leagle.com/decision-result/?xmldoc/1992877831SW2d46_1866.xml/docbase/CSLWAR2-1986-2006
This case involves a medical malpractice action by appellants, Stephen Kramer, and his children Jeffrey and Lindsey Kramer, against appellee, Lewisville Memorial Hospital ("Hospital" , Drs. Burgess and Eich, Cytotechnologist Frances Jane Nightingale, and other professional medical groups and centers. All defendants except appellee settled with appellants before the trial.
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Still suffering from irregular bleeding and in pain, Jennie saw another doctor, Dr. Michael Burgess, in November 1985. This second physician did not do another pap smear, but did various other tests. He decided that Jennie's condition was normal and prescribed medication.
By December of 1985, Jennie could feel a hardening in her cervix. In spite of that and her continued bleeding, Dr. Michael Burgess decided that nothing further needed to be done for Jennie. In February of 1986, Jennie felt a hard spot in her vagina. Dr. Burgess finally performed a cervical biopsy and diagnosed her as having cancer.
In March 1986, Jennie underwent surgery to remove cancerous tissue and lymph nodes in her pelvic area. In April she was again admitted to the hospital because of bleeding. In May, X-rays showed changes that ultimately revealed that the cancer had metastasized to her lungs. In September 1986, her lung cancer finally diagnosed, Jennie began chemotherapy treatments. She died on October 31, 1986.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Can get his mother pregnant. It IS the biggest living cell in a woman's body as we ALL know. LOL!
niyad
(113,496 posts)in the f****** HELL can he be this stupid???
from his bio (parenthetical remarks mine)
I currently serve on the prestigious House Energy and Commerce Committee and in the 113th Congress, 2013 and 2014, will serve as the Vice Chairman of both the Subcommittee on Health (well, bachmann can be on the intelligence committee) and the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, and as a member of the Energy and Power Subcommittee. In addition, I am a member of the Rules Committee and the Helsinki Commission. In 2009, I founded, and currently serve as Co-Chair of the Congressional Health Caucus.
Because of my medical background, I have been a strong advocate for health care legislation aimed at reducing health care costs, improving choices (except for women), reforming liability laws to put the needs of patients first, and ensuring there are enough doctors in the public and private sector to care for Americas patients and veterans. I have played an important role in bipartisan efforts to ensure the safety of food, drugs, and consumer products, and have introduced legislation to strengthen our ability to stop dangerous products from coming into the country.
As a Member of Congress representing one of the fastest growing areas of the country, transportation is also a top priority. In 2005, I successfully amended the Highway Bill to include development credits, design-build, and environmental streamlining. During my time on Capitol Hill, I have worked to build, maintain, and improve the safety of our roads, bridges, air service, and transit in the North Texas region.
A fiscal conservative, I believe Americans deserve a federal government that is more efficient, effective, less costly, and always transparent. I follow a strict adherence to the Constitution, and oppose unnecessary expansion of the federal governments control over Americans personal freedoms (except women). Instead, I believe in giving people more control over their lives (except women) and their money. - See more at: http://burgess.house.gov/about/#sthash.xSIlCere.dpuf
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Texas Representative Michael Burgess warned in a 2010 New York Times post about the malpractice system that there is no quick fix for the American system: Defensive medicine is a learned methodology, and one that cannot be unlearned quickly, and I believe this contributes significantly to the reason why costs do not decrease quickly and steeply after medical liability reforms are passed. But there are a variety of reforms being explored a majority of states have passed legislation with configurations of tort reform that range from proportional liability to damage caps. But such reforms also lead to disagreement between reform and patient advocates. In Texas, liability caps and requirements that mistakes in emergency room care be shown to be willful and wanton, are said to have decreased doctors insurance polices by thirty percent; however, some believe the quality of care has suffered as a result. The New York Times quotes a local doctor saying, What Texans dont know is that their Legislature has mandated a very low standard of care almost no care. And in addition, patients now may have a harder time finding lawyers to take a case with limited financial outcomes.
Also, see my post above.
niyad
(113,496 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)niyad
(113,496 posts)"if you don't like the idea of them masturbating in the womb, why in the HELL would you want them born to do it out of the womb?" then she said, "well, at least some of them know where it is--none of the men I knew did"
we both agreed that we feel intensely sorry for the women who were his patients for all those years. can you just imagine the harm, the bs, the malpractice of his practice?
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Do I have that right?
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)These idiots should not be anywhere NEAR a woman and certainly not anywhere NEAR any lawmaking capacity when the laws involve women.
Friggin' wackos.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Yes, I know this isn't it, but it should be. Incredible.
So, if a male baby is masturbating inside his mother's uterus, is he guilty of incest?
Sorry, still channeling The Onion.
WTF
Maynar
(769 posts)Think, he does not.
vanlassie
(5,681 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,323 posts)I knew he was conservative (well, except for abusing his franking privileges to mail me unsolicited glossy full-color campaign crap), but he outdid himself with this garbage. Disgusting.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Pete's the head of the Rules Committee where Burgess spouted off. I tweeted Pete about this, but might as well have been talking to myself...
TexasTowelie
(112,323 posts)Pete is an alum of the university from where I graduated and is on the Board of Trustees. You know that he was arrested for streaking back in the 70s when he was at Southwest Texas State in San Marcos?
alp227
(32,044 posts)Just go to 1:08 of this video http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104295/dr-nelson-the-midget
I mean wow. I'm tellin' ya, the RATpubliCONs learned NOTHING from the Todd Akin debacle and 2012 giant "HELL NO" from the voters.
niyad
(113,496 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I thought conservatives were against masturbation...
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)Is it not the case that Doctors like who view sonogram of male foetus paedophile?
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)rethugs obviously are heartless bastards who have no feelings, does that mean we can perform very very late term abortions on all of them?
This was my husbands theory last night, I think it would be for the betterment of all.