you want to know what the problem in syria is? there aren't any good guys

[cali]

Of course there rarely are in this sort of mess, but in syria finding the "good" rebels to align ourselves with is exceedingly difficult.
This is an Iran/US proxy war we'll be fighting and it isn't about human rights or saving lives or any of the other pablum shit that supporters of U.S. intervention are being spoon fed like the drooling morons that they are.

both sides are avidly committing atrocities and just saying "both sides" is kind of misleading. there are lots of factions on the rebel side.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-04/beheadings-by-syrian-rebels-add-to-atrocities-un-says.html

Syria rebel 'cannibal' defends his atrocity

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/syria-rebel-cannibal-defends-his-atrocity-29267594.html

Both Assad and rebels committing war crimes, atrocities a ‘daily reality’ in Syrian civil war: UN

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/04/both-assad-and-rebels-committing-war-crimes-atrocities-a-daily-reality-in-syrian-civil-war-un/

[sibelian]

1. I've been watching youtube vids on this.

None of them come out well.

[cali]

2. the rebels are committing atrocities by the score. Assad's forces are doing the same.

we're playing proxy war with Iran. That's all that this is about.

It's disgusting.

[Laelth]

3. k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t

-Laelth

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. Once you establish a red line,

you have to at least go through the motions of enforcing it. Otherwise no one is afraid of your threats.

It was a poor decision to establish such a red line.

[cali]

5. fine decision for those making big $$$ from this shit.

[sibelian]

6. This whole thing is what the FUCKING UN WAS FOR.

Stone and Parker can suck me off.

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. As long as China and Russia have vetoes on the Security Council, nothing will happen

[kentuck]

7. Intelligence says:

It is to our advantage and to our allies in the region if we can keep Assad busy defending his ground rather than on the offensive, even if we have to arm some Al Qaeda...

[stevenleser]

8. Exactly. We need to stay away. Far away.

Everyone should starve the belligerents of weapons. That's the real answer.

[dembotoz]

9. yep

[JCMach1]

11. Exactly, what happens when Assad falls and it's ethnic cleansing time

for Alawites?

Which side are we on then?

We really need to stay as far away from this as possible...

[liberal_at_heart]

12. As always in war the good guys are the citizens who are not involved in the fighting, who are trying

to live their lives, go to work, send their children to school all in the middle of a war zone. Those are the good guys and they are always the ones stuck in the middle and the ones who pay most dearly while people with guns struggle for power and money.

[ljm2002]

13. Yes and I was listening to NPR news...

...for a few minutes, they were saying that we will be arming the rebels while trying to keep arms out of the hands of extremists.

Ha, ha, ha. Like that is even remotely possible.

[Aerows]

14. Good Goddess

they truly are in the tank.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Armng the rebels...er...Freedom Fighters worked ever so well in Afghanistan and Nicaragua.