Josh Marshall: Curious

[ProSense]

Curious

Josh Marshall

I’m curious whether Greenwald/Guardian declined to publish Snowden’s new claims about US hacking in Hong Kong and mainland China, which appeared in the South China Morning Post.

http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/06/curious.php

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/fresh-hacking-allegations-from-snowden-in-new-interview.php

(Snowden)...Showed Hong Kong Newspaper Documents Revealing US Hacking Attacks On China (updated 2x)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023001669

Greenwald: “We Did Not Want To Just Go And Arbitrarily Disclose Things’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023003692

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1. i bet yes

i'm no greenwald fan but even he isn't stupid/arrogant enough to have done that.

[KittyWampus]

12. is this asking- Snowden informed Greenwald and they declined to print it?

[arely staircase]

15. greenwald says snowden gave him a bunch of stuff he didn't print (don't have link handy)

he implied he was going to print some of it, don't know whether this was some of it or not. but I really give greenwald the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't have published such info.

[Junkdrawer]

2. This?

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As a debate raged over whether Snowden should be praised or prosecuted for his actions, he told the South China Morning Post: "I'm neither traitor nor hero. I'm an American."

Snowden claimed that the US had hacked hundreds of targets in Hong Kong – including public officials, a university, businesses and students in the city – and on the mainland. These were part of more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, he alleged.

"We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one," he said.

The Post said it had seen a document that, Snowden alleged, supported his claims. The Post said it had not verified the document, and did not immediately publish it.

Snowden said he was releasing the information to demonstrate "the hypocrisy of the US government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries".

A senior Chinese official said last week he had "mountains of data" on cyber-attacks from the US, after Washington turned up the pressure over hacking by China.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/edward-snowden-us-extradition-fight

Read it on the Guardian a few hours ago...

[ProSense]

3. That isn't Greenwald. It's a news report. n/t

[Junkdrawer]

9. Agreed. But Josh seems to imply that the Guardian is now witholding news.

BTW: I posted this Monday:

Mr. Greenwald, meet Mr. Rather. Mr. Rather, meet Mr. Greenwald.

I'll leave the two of you alone now. I'm sure you have a lot to discuss.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2984787

My take on the whole affair is not the standard fare.

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5. They're observing what he told the Chinese paper--it's not original reporting nt

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16. exactly, we are talking about it here

that is not revealing it. once it is out there anyone can talk about it - with the exception of people who have sworn not to reveal -in which case it remains classified until declared otherwise.

[RobertEarl]

4. This could be a set up

Obama gets Snowden to crack the NSA and as he does, he goes to China and feeds the Chinese false info which gets China chasing their tail. All the while Obama is charming the Chinese leader.

Some chess, eh?

[FSogol]

6. It could be a double-reserve set up!

Xi Jinping gets Obama to get Snowden to crack the NSA and as he does, he goes to China and feeds the Chinese false info which gets China chasing their tail and doulbe feeds the info back to the US. All the while Obama is charming the Chinese leader. Meanwhile, Dennis Rodman is sent securely to North Korea to double cross Obama and LeBron James drives into the lane completing a world-shattering slamdunk!

[geek tragedy]

7. Statue of Liberty play! nt

[FSogol]

8. Maybe Tim Tebow could salute the flag while reciting the Lord's Prayer to really confuse things?

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10. Or he could throw an accurate pass--that would really confuse people nt

[FSogol]

11. Too far-fetched. n/t

[KittyWampus]

13. very far-fetched but it'd make a good movie script (tv movie)

[FSogol]

14. A team of sports superstars who involve themselves in espionage?

Already happened: check out, "The Catcher Was a Spy: The Mysterious Life of Moe Berg."

http://www.amazon.com/The-Catcher-Was-Spy-Mysterious/dp/0679762892

It would make a good movie.