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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden are very scared right now.
Greenwald has hired an attorney, just in case something happens.
Snowden slipped out of his hotel room in Hong Kong and is maybe staying in a "safe house" of some sort. His worries are much deeper than whether he might need an attorney.
In my opinion, he fears for his life. That is why he is passing info to other reporters and journalists. Just in case something happens to him, the information will not disappear.
The jackals would love to drag his carcass into a cave as soon as possible before more embarrassing, or dangerous, leaks are made public. They are frantically trying to find him and remove him to a more comfortable setting, in my opinion.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Response to kentuck (Original post)
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)P.S. Papa Al awlaki did a lot more than make nasty videos
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)on their face" crowd.
I choose to debate actual people and events, not myths and bogeyman that people invent because reality is too nuanced.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)in front of a judge.
I can safely assume that some portion of U.S. citizens in those circumstances would at least attempt to find a lawyer and attempt some type of legal redress.
I can also safely assume that the administration would fight the process tooth and nail.
My opinion is they didn't need the bad PR, or whatever other type of fallout resulted.
I wonder what would happen if the kid was interviewed on talk shows and was likable?
I wonder what would happen if he defied the stereotypes and wasn't SCARY?
But he is not going to do any of these things. Because he is gone.
That's my opinion.
delrem
(9,688 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)So long as they embarrass or endanger our country.
Their lives are not in danger. That's James Bond stuff. Snowden will be extradicted and Greenwald will be disgraced.
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kentuck
(111,110 posts)But their actions say otherwise.
pscot
(21,024 posts)why should it be embarrassed?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/12/glenn-greenwald-to-pete-king-bring-it-on/
FSogol
(45,529 posts)him are that mad/embarrassed to do him harm.
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)If we are a nation of laws as we claim, then the law and the constitution will protect Greenwald..and ultimately, us and our way of life. Outside of the law, either of them have reason to be fearful.
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)it is part ten of a talk he gave on his book tour "with liberty and justice for some" ..he is protected by the constitution and knows it..inside and out. That is the battle in front of him and I for one couldn't be more pleased that he decided to take it on.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)But so far all we see is the NSA has legally stored phone numbers on their servers instead of on the phone companies.
And if that is what Snowden is protecting us from, then I wish him luck with the charges coming his way for stealing.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)how far they can go. I'm not worried about either being "clueless," or fearing for their lives. They had to have some really strong backing to do what they did. There are Civil Libertarians who have big bucks and power of their own who also know what they are doing and supportive in the "background" in ways we aren't aware of.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)good grief.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)yes.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)because he most likely will end up in jail eventually or holded up somewhere like China or Russia for the rest of his life.
delrem
(9,688 posts)That *could* happen.
Another future could be that because Greenwald's "cause" in this is part of a chorus, it may be joined by a significant majority of thinking people, so it will win. That isn't impossible, or even unlikely. I think it's probable, given the education in freedom built in American bones.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)in China.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)They seem to be the heavies in this passion play?
discopants
(535 posts)exactly where he is . they all want him and/or his files.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and watching every move he makes
if not they aren't doing their jobs
HipChick
(25,485 posts)I would not be shocked if agents were staying right next door in the hotel room
They know exactly where he is...
I wouldn't be shocked if they shutdown his credit cards....hope he took a lot of cash with him
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)but the cia, Chinese and every other ss in the world is watching and listening.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)... they know they're in deep shit.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_greenwald
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)his client. I believe there were sanctions or something. I tried to look up an article on it to refresh my memory. He may not be able to practice right now. But yeah, he's got some 'splanin to do.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)yet he manages to soldier on.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)They are legion!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)If he did that then he would be prosecuted. Snowden if caught will go to jail for life if caught.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Snowden is relying on the good graces of the Chinese government, and is a fugitive from US law enforcement who'll face prison if he gets returned to the US. He should be afraid.
still_one
(92,417 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)still_one
(92,417 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Ridiculous post.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Kind of puts a damper on his 15 minutes.
George Gently
(88 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Snowden may fancy himself the target of assassins, but he's just going face the U.S. justice system as a consequence of his actions. Some 'hero', fleeing his crime.
Progressive dog
(6,918 posts)Greenwald has nothing to fear from the US government and I think that Hong Kong Snowden planned this and knew what to expect.
blm
(113,095 posts)around the world? Does he think other countries wouldn't bother to kidnap him and torture that information out of him?
Does he really trust that Russia and China have greater track records on human rights than the US justice system under this president?