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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGerman Reaction to NSA Spying Revelations
It was really a shock. A big, big shock. Thats how University of Muenster telecommunications law professor Thomas Hoeren describes the German reaction to the recent NSA spying revelations.
During the Nazi regime, there was a really big collection of personal data, so Germans hate big governments collecting a lot of data.
And they arent afraid to show it. The photo above was taken during a recent German protest against ACTA, the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The sign reads: Surveillance Society.
And Germans, Hoeren says, find little comfort in President Obamas recent assurances that no one is listening to your telephone calls.
Its a sentiment shared among many in the European Union. In fact, the European Parliament met in emergency session Tuesday to discuss the NSA data snooping program, known as PRISM.
After the session, Dutch MEP Judith Sargentini told the BBC: If it wasnt so sad I would have laughed last Friday when Obama said, No worries people, this is only for foreigners, not for Americans.
The problem is this, Sargentini continued. The Fourth Amendment that protects American citizens privacy does not fly for us Europeans. If you think your data has been used in the wrong way in the US, you cannot go to court and fight it.
The NSAs surveillance program is sure to be a topic of conversation when President Obama travels to Berlin next week for talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
And hes likely to get a much colder reception from the German public than during his previous visit nearly five years ago.
The last time he was here, we saw him as a kind of hero. We loved him, says Thomas Hoeren. But now he will get a lot of criticism, and people protesting him.
http://www.theworld.org/2013/06/german-reaction-to-nsa-spying-revelations/
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German Reaction to NSA Spying Revelations (Original Post)
damnedifIknow
Jun 2013
OP
germans know all about how to make nasty things "legal" at the time they are done nt
msongs
Jun 2013
#3
Well, maybe some nice international law wonks could put their minds to drafting
struggle4progress
Jun 2013
#5
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)1. Good for the people of Germany. I hope to see them in the streets.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)2. K&R nt
msongs
(67,443 posts)3. germans know all about how to make nasty things "legal" at the time they are done nt
mick063
(2,424 posts)4. The Godwin freaks must immediately disqualify his statement.
During the Nazi regime, there was a really big collection of personal data, so Germans hate big governments collecting a lot of data.
OMG
No reference to Nazis, in the midst of fascist coups are allowed. Any reference to 1930's Germany is simply intolerable.
Dig through your history books to find the next best comparison.
Perhaps Mussolini?
One question................
What happens when the comparison is appropriate?
Or are we going to start pulling the Godwin routine on German scholars now?
struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)5. Well, maybe some nice international law wonks could put their minds to drafting
a good self-executing treaty to protect privacy rights in our technological age