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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTime to post what ReTHUGs said and did against Mandela before they
reinvent themselves in the coming days.
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The war criminal of a dick
http://www.commondreams.org/views/080300-102.htm
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We did not know then what we know now. We did not know that his statesmanship would be legendary, outstripped only by his forgiveness. We did not know he would be president, or that he could survive 27 years of imprisonment to walk free again. And in our nation, where athletes are superstars, we did not know that Americans would one day shower Nelson Mandela with ticker tape, like the Yankees fresh from winning the pennant.
When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.
Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.'' What, then, does this tell us about what information Cheney considers before he takes a decision? And what the long-term consequences are likely to be, and on whom?
By no means were Mandela or the ANC universally viewed as ``terrorists,'' evidenced by the fact that the vote on the resolution was 245-177 in favor, but still shy of the two-thirds needed to override President Ronald Reagan's veto.
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St Ronnie the racist teabagger
http://jameni.com/how-ronald-reagan-extended-nelson-mandelas-prison-term/
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In my view, the Reagan administrations support and collaboration with (Apartheid South Africa) is equally immoral, evil, and totally un-Christian. Bishop Desmond Tutu
Ronald Reagan
At the height of the Republican presidential primaries, late 2011 to early 2012, Republican contenders were falling all over themselves trying to compare themselves to Republican icon, the late president Ronald Reagan. Unfortunately, the Ronald Reagan they all aspired to emulate is a mere mirage.
Over the years, Republicans have painstakingly worked to whitewash Reagans sordid past and turned him into a Republican saint, then held him up as the gold standard they all aspire to achieve. The real Ronald Reagan was a man so paralyzed by party ideology and fear of communism that he was willing to sacrifice American democratic ideals and Christian values.
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RainDog
(28,784 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)In a press conference, Bush suggests Saddam Hussein killed the former South African President Nelson Mandela. He says Iraq is still under the influence of Saddam Hussein and hence there is no democracy.
Bush was talking to reporters about democracy in Iraq. He tried to assert that Saddams dictatorship and rule over Iraq destroyed and killed any potential democratic reformers in the country. He was comparing the Iraqi reformers with democratic leaders like the former President, Nelson Mandela. He gives a disturbing quote suggesting Saddam killed Mandela.
Bush said in the Video:
I thought an interesting comment was made somebody said to me, I heard somebody say, Now, wheres Mandela? Well, Mandelas dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/231188#ixzz2Vj1GzFhj
polly7
(20,582 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)They attacked the government to create fear and further their political goals. They were terrorists. Period.
They set bombs killing hundreds (oh, and the vast majority of the dead -- like 90 percent -- were civilians). They mined roads. They tortured and executed prisoners at their detention camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe
Put another way, Mandela, Tutu, et al ain't exactly Gandhi.
I'm not judging them (I have no right), but if the dictionary definition of a shoe fits...
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)And if you have any reason to think Desmond Tutu or Nelson Mandela were involved, let's see it.
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malaise
(269,157 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)2:43. (Sorry, I don't want to hijack your thread ... I just love this man and and wanted to share his adorableness in this favourite video of mine.)
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)"Are the women of America prepared to give up all their jewelry?"