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madamesilverspurs

(15,809 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:47 PM Jun 2013

Welcome to my world.

Welcome to my world. My life’s book has been open to the gubmint for well over twenty years, now. Thanks to health and physical issues I’ve been reliant on disability and other programs for quite some time. And every time I have to go through the recertification process I receive, from the county, copies of the relevant paperwork. The last page always has a final sentence, printed in a tiny font, to advise that my participation in these helping programs means that any of my personal information is available to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. That sucks.

The suckage isn’t confined to just me. It’s for anyone who is enrolled with any of the myriad federal, state, county agencies. There are millions of us. Then you add in the millions and millions of those who aren’t engaged with government agencies, and the numbers of the potentially invaded skyrocket exponentially. Now it sucks on a wider scale.

It’s more than a little disquietingly irksome, but I really do have to wonder -- where are the multitudes of “peekers” and “listeners”? They, too, must number in the millions in order to significantly violate. In my case, I almost almost feel sorry for my own personal ‘monitor’ who must be bored to tears.

No, I’m not making light of the issue. But I am recognizing, along with some in the unwinding-from- scandal-mode media, that this isn’t exactly new. Has there been over-reach? Well, are humans involved? Are there corrective measures that can be taken? Yes, but not while we’re busy not howling at the ones who should be fixing it. There’s a guy on the roof nailing down the last of the new shingles. Should I go yell at him and cuss him out because the guy who laid the cement for the foundation screwed up on a portion of one wall? Or would it be more appropriate - and more constructive - to ask the proper crew to address the issue and make it right?

Not a thing wrong with being outraged. It may be easier to focus our rage on just one person. But just because it’s easier doesn’t mean it’s the right thing. And no one knows this better than those who are profoundly hoping that they can keep pointing our attention away from themselves.

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Welcome to my world. (Original Post) madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 OP
Great post. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #1
K&R - nt Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #2
Very sensible post. nt UtahLib Jun 2013 #3
K & R LeftInTX Jun 2013 #4
And, I know you're grateful for what help you have.. Cha Jun 2013 #5
The Satsi wished they had this kind of power and numbers of analysts. DCKit Jun 2013 #6

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
4. K & R
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jun 2013

I submitted my medical records to Social Security last year. This has been going on for about 20 years for me too.

Yep they have all this info on me, am I complaining? When Reagan tried to purge the SS rolls? When they made me fill out hundreds upon hundreds of pages about my personal life from what I did from the moment I woke up until I went to bed at night? When I filled out forms like this pretty much for three years straight? When I went before a judge and had to tell him every single detail about my life?

Maybe it seems like personal intrusion to some, but I sure wouldn't want to be stuck in a libertarian government and not have access to any benefits at all.


Cha

(297,692 posts)
5. And, I know you're grateful for what help you have..
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jun 2013

Good point, madame..

There’s a guy on the roof nailing down the last of the new shingles. Should I go yell at him and cuss him out because the guy who laid the cement for the foundation screwed up on a portion of one wall? Or would it be more appropriate - and more constructive - to ask the proper crew to address the issue and make it right?


If you want nothing done about it.. yeah, I guess so.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
6. The Satsi wished they had this kind of power and numbers of analysts.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jun 2013

Yeah, we're not listening to your phone calls, we're saving them for later.

Illegal, Illegal, Illegal. It's the fucking Constitution you fucking assholes.

President Constitutional Scholar my fucking ass.

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