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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:02 PM Jun 2013

WaPo "hedged its stunning claim" about companies giving "Government direct access to their servers"

The Washington Post Has Now Hedged Its Stunning Claim About Google, Facebook, Etc, Giving The Government Direct Access To Their Servers

Henry Blodget

Yesterday, the Washington Post reported a shocking story about how the FBI and National Security Agency had partnered with Google, Facebook, and many other tech companies to spy on the tech companies' hundreds of millions of users...government agencies, the Post said, were "tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time."

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The Post story described a "career intelligence officer" as being so horrified by the power and privacy intrusion of this surveillance system that the officer was helping to leak the news..."They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,” the officer reportedly told the Post.

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That change is important. The direct-access claim changes from a fact asserted by the Washington Post to a claim made in a document the Washington Post has seen--a document that might be wrong.

The idea that Google, Facebook, Apple, et al, had voluntarily given the government direct unfettered access to their servers always seemed far-fetched.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/washington-post-updates-spying-story-2013-6

People are discussing the target of the program, but few seem to be addressing the bizarre friggin claim in WaPo story about these companies giving the government direct access to their servers.

Obama: PRISM Doesn’t Apply To U.S. Citizens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022965452


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WaPo "hedged its stunning claim" about companies giving "Government direct access to their servers" (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
Also the change that it tracks foreign targets geek tragedy Jun 2013 #1
I gave the Washington Post direct access to my ass!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #2
Have You Seen The Slide Show ??? WillyT Jun 2013 #3
Are you challenging WaPo on its changes? ProSense Jun 2013 #4
You know this thread will drop like a rock BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #7
Have you seen this article? bunnies Jun 2013 #6
The Prism logo and the green arrow are different on the Guardian story FarCenter Jun 2013 #8
The linked article about the "slide-show" as a potential hoax is very interesting. bunnies Jun 2013 #5
All part of the all-out RW propaganda machine. LOL! Unpaid interns DevonRex Jun 2013 #9
Looks like a 7 year old created it. bunnies Jun 2013 #11
It does remind me of stickers, now that DevonRex Jun 2013 #15
The co-author of the WaPo article is Laura Poitras FarCenter Jun 2013 #10
The price of the program as $20 mil is suspect.The gov't can't do much with $20 mil certainly not okaawhatever Jun 2013 #12
There's the whole denial by Zuckerman, too.. Cha Jun 2013 #13
K&R sheshe2 Jun 2013 #14
Having worked for a large networking server manufacturing company usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #16
Please respond to this poll: ProSense Jun 2013 #17
yeah, it's shocking. DCKit Jun 2013 #18
Perhaps time to revisit a strange set of events with google "censorship" I noticed some years back cascadiance Jun 2013 #19
Wapo really on the line here. gulliver Jun 2013 #20
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. Also the change that it tracks foreign targets
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jun 2013
nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs that enable analysts to track foreign targets,

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Are you challenging WaPo on its changes?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:17 PM
Jun 2013

I mean, it appears they got the story wrong on a number of levels. For all we know, the document is bullshit.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
5. The linked article about the "slide-show" as a potential hoax is very interesting.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jun 2013

Especially considering WaPo's walking back of the story. hmmm.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
12. The price of the program as $20 mil is suspect.The gov't can't do much with $20 mil certainly not
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jun 2013

spy on 340,000,000 people. The New York Times also changed their "the President has lost all credibility" and added "on this matter".

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
16. Having worked for a large networking server manufacturing company
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jun 2013

I can tell you that it is required that we provide a back door for the government, to more easily access the data that traverses it, on every server we sell.

though it was always assumed that our gov would not abuse this privilege considering our constitutional protections but boy were we wrong.

911 really has changed everything.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
19. Perhaps time to revisit a strange set of events with google "censorship" I noticed some years back
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jun 2013

Here's an old post of what I noticed of some curious timing of events around how it appeared google was doctoring he search hits (or lack thereof) retrieved both for google alerts messages and for its news search hits regarding Sibel Edmonds coincident to the timing of the arrests of an Israeli spy in our midst...

With this new information, I wonder if its worth revisiting some of these past "conjectures" that many of us had of how corporate America might have been collaborating with the NSA, etc. in the government.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=39220

This was a post for something that happened almost seven years ago... But perhaps it is relevant today?

gulliver

(13,195 posts)
20. Wapo really on the line here.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jun 2013

NYT blew it's rep on Judith Miller. And Wapo is circling the toilet drain when it collaborates with the likes of Glenn Greenwald. Anyone at the controls at Wapo?

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