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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQuestion: if climate change is detected in the long term, is the weather changing in the short term?
and I mean, is the weather changing in the short term, on average, if the climate is changing in the long term?
remember, I said "on average".
on point
(2,506 posts)either side.
So a given event may be behind the curve and resembles what it used to be like, or on the forward side of the bell curve and more like what it will become.
Also, part of the climate change is that there is more energy in the system.
Sort of like a pendulum which used to have a nice easy slow swing. Now we put more energy into it so it now swings wilder, further from side and side and more quickly.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)For instance, we've had 2 ungodly long wet springs, now are having one of the nicest I remember.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)is the average weather event changing or staying the same?
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)dryer, some wetter, some windier. So yes, global climate change involves overall average weather change.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I mean, here in Louisville. It's been climate "change" for as long as I can recall. I suppose because of the region I am not used to stable weather and what may be part of long term change may also just be the whacky effect of the Ohio Valley, business as usual. From a laymans point of view anyway.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)is the average weather, day to day, two degrees warmer than in the past?
yes or no?
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)spots are getting different variations. On average, some places are 2+, some -4 which equal +2. Or +10, -12 = 2
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i take back my "thank you".
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Weather is local. Climate is global. Local weather may be +4 here, -2 there making global -2. Climate is averaging the temp overall where weather is local.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and climate change is calculated from the aggregate of changes in individual weather over place and time?
or is weather just weather and climate calculated by unicorns and nymph dreams?
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)I'm going back to argue godwins with a newbie. Catch you around.
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uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I was wanting to see what comparative temps in the region were over a 10, 20 year period. From what I can tell, no. I know what you are asking though and I think that is harder to extract by just looking ar ambient air temperature recordings. I'm not qualified to give a serious answer but I enjoy learning about the weather.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and climate is made up of weather.
there are people that want to wall off climate from weather --yes, they really do.
an individual weather event may not reflect the overall change that is occurring at a specific geographic and time scale, but it will be a part of that overall change.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)The climate changes over time anyway. That's why some are able to obfuscate so well.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)climate volatility is also an issue.
why can't it be both?