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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFather in Apparent Murder-Suicide was ‘Congressman’ in Antigovernment ‘Republic’
Last week, police made a startling announcement in their investigation of a fire that killed a father and son in their rural West Virginia mobile home in January. They revealed that David Hutzler, 56, and his 9-year-old son James, known as Mack, were each shot in the head before the trailer burned. The scene bore all the signs of a murder-suicide.
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A Hatewatch investigation has now confirmed that Hutzler was once a congressman in the Republic for the united States of America (RuSA), one of the largest and most organized antigovernment sovereign citizens groups active in the United States today. Led by president James Timothy Turner of Ozark, Ala., and with representatives in nearly every state, the group says the federal government is illegitimate and it is reinhabiting the true government.
Adherents of sovereign citizens ideology hold bizarre, complex antigovernment beliefs. Sovereigns think they not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they dont think they should have to pay taxes. Hutzler, it seems, was a true believer.
He littered the Internet with tirades that made ludicrous claims and wrote that the Constitution needed a reset. Laws didnt matter anymore, he mused, not when the federal government had become tyrannical.
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While there is no indication that his death or his sons had anything to do with Hutzlers increasingly extreme beliefs, some who say they knew him have posted comments on a news website suggesting that investigators are involved in a cover-up to protect the real murderers presumably the government. (...)
In some of his last online postings, he seemed paranoid certain that the federal government was after him. Among his final words were these: I think Ive said quite enough to put my life in danger today. Sadly, in all probability, the only danger he really faced were the federal bogeymen all in his head.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/02/10/father-in-apparent-murder-suicide-was-congressman-in-antigovernment-republic/#more-8679~snip~
A Hatewatch investigation has now confirmed that Hutzler was once a congressman in the Republic for the united States of America (RuSA), one of the largest and most organized antigovernment sovereign citizens groups active in the United States today. Led by president James Timothy Turner of Ozark, Ala., and with representatives in nearly every state, the group says the federal government is illegitimate and it is reinhabiting the true government.
Adherents of sovereign citizens ideology hold bizarre, complex antigovernment beliefs. Sovereigns think they not judges, juries, law enforcement or elected officials get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they dont think they should have to pay taxes. Hutzler, it seems, was a true believer.
He littered the Internet with tirades that made ludicrous claims and wrote that the Constitution needed a reset. Laws didnt matter anymore, he mused, not when the federal government had become tyrannical.
~snip~
While there is no indication that his death or his sons had anything to do with Hutzlers increasingly extreme beliefs, some who say they knew him have posted comments on a news website suggesting that investigators are involved in a cover-up to protect the real murderers presumably the government. (...)
In some of his last online postings, he seemed paranoid certain that the federal government was after him. Among his final words were these: I think Ive said quite enough to put my life in danger today. Sadly, in all probability, the only danger he really faced were the federal bogeymen all in his head.
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Father in Apparent Murder-Suicide was ‘Congressman’ in Antigovernment ‘Republic’ (Original Post)
Emit
Feb 2012
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TheWraith
(24,331 posts)1. Not to be confused with the gas-explosion guy from a few days ago. nt
Emit
(11,213 posts)4. Yes, yes, thanks for pointing that out. This is yet another, different tragedy. n/t
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)2. He killed his son?
So sad. RIP little guy...
Lawlbringer
(550 posts)3. The summary of what this guy says
sounds a lot like...
(I'm trying not to make this personal)
most of the Ron Paul supporters I've seen online.
This story is so tragic, it hurts to reread
Emit
(11,213 posts)5. Yes, I have a couple RP supporters on my FB - unfortunately
and they spam with similar conspiracies, one of the most recent being a youtube video of the Military Soldiers Are Joining the American Resistance.