Correct me if I'm wrong- every time a man ejaculates,he kills 230 million babies.

[w8liftinglady]

http://www2.oakland.edu/biology/lindemann/spermfacts.htm

I am waiting for Representative King to bring up this very important fact...just as important as one measley egg per month.

[JoePhilly]

1. Hey ... that's 280 million not a measly 230 million!!!!

For a minute there, I was worried that my sperm count had dropped by 50 million !!

[w8liftinglady]

5. Thank you,I stand corrected.

[no_hypocrisy]

8. How about THIS calculation:

In order to make ONE baby, 279,999,999 babies die at the least with the exception of fraternal twins, triplets, and in the case of the Octomom, a litter.

[pokerfan]

32. doing some math

365 * 35 * 2.5 * 280×10⁶ = 3.607×10⁹

I'm the worst mass murderer in history!

[JoePhilly]

33. Ok ... I'm confused by your math ...

365 is days, I get that part.

And 280×10^6 is the total sperm in one ejaculate ... got it.

So its the 35 and the 2.5 that throw me off.

Are you saying that for the last 2.5 years you masturbate 35 times a day ... or ... are you saying that for the last 35 years you masturbate 2.5 times a day .... because if its the latter ... well, doesn't that mean that you only actually "finish" 2 times a day, and that on the 3rd try, you only make it "half way"??

Sorry to get so personal ... but stuff like this keeps me up at night.

[pokerfan]

41. Don't judge me!

Are you saying that for the last 2.5 years you masturbate 35 times a day ... or ... are you saying that for the last 35 years you masturbate 2.5 times a day .... because if its the latter ... well, doesn't that mean that you only actually "finish" 2 times a day, and that on the 3rd try, you only make it "half way"??

It's an average. What, is that low?

[JoePhilly]

52. I'm not sure if 2.5 is high or low ... but ...

I do know that if I reach 3, I'm not going to make it to work that day.

[pokerfan]

57. Five days a week my body is a temple.

The other two, it's an amusement park!

[JoePhilly]

59. I'm betting it also has a slip and slide!!!

[grantcart]

48. Its not all masturbation. Every once in a while we have partners.

[Vattel]

50. A partner? Interesting concept. I will have to try that.

[JoePhilly]

54. I think my wife is allergic to sperm ... sometimes it makes her swell up like a balloon.

And Benadryl does NOTHING to stop it!!!

[w8liftinglady]

55. I had the same problem...

Ortho-novum helped..especially when I took it regularly

[Sheepshank]

2. hold your horses

a man who is medically infertile could still ejaculate 80 million sperm.

And what about those dudes that went through the snip. Theoretically there is no sperm in the ejaculate....but does eliminating the presence of sperm (like eliminating ovulation) also count as an abortion? This inquiring mind wants to know.

I think I shall send King an e-mail and will post the repsonse.

[sinkingfeeling]

17. Putting on my King-hat, I'd have to say 'yes' that counts as abortion.

[Crunchy Frog]

79. Yes, the snip would count as murder.

The testes don't actually stop making sperm. They're just blockaded and forced to die agonizing deaths trapped in the vas deferens.

[Swede]

3. And one kitten.

If you don't deposit it in the correct place.

[ZombieHorde]

78. That means God watches people masturbate wrong.

Watching people masturbate should not involve the death of kittens.

[Boxerfan]

4. May I be the 1st????

Lets see...
Give it 300 days a year that I "ahem"...
Then multiply times...And then mutiply by the years....Maybe give a bonus for the teen years


Yikes I am gonna burn in heck

Edit:-Dandged-not the 1st

[MineralMan]

5. If that's true, every teenaged boy is a

mass murderer. The Howwow!

[w8liftinglady]

9. My 15 year-old may have murdered thousands of babies last night...

I'm gonna have to put adult block on the computer...

[Strelnikov_]

7. Every Sperm is Sacred

(you knew it was coming)

The full bit:

[Siwsan]

10. you beat me to it!

Now I'm going to have to deal with the 'ear worm'!

[niyad]

21. and that is why OK dem susan campbell added the "every sperm is sacred" amendment to the

latest personhood nonsense (oh, sorry, I mean "bill&quot which states, in part:

Every sperm is sacred
By Susan Campbell On February 8, 2012 ·

An Oklahoma state senator has inserted an “every sperm is sacred” clause into a personhood bill in her state. The clause says, in part:

…any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child.

You can read more about Okla. State Sen. Constance N. Johnson here. You can read more about the personhood movement — “protecting the pre-born” — here.

http://courantblogs.com/susan-campbell/about/

[w8liftinglady]

30. oooohhh... good point!

[PassingFair]

44. We must pray for the "PreConceived Babies"

http://www.geocities.ws/preconceivedbabies/index-2.html

snip>

The Staggering Death Toll

Every time a woman menstruates, the bloody flow includes the corpse of one (or more!) preconceived babies. This is why menstruation has been known as "The Curse".

There are an estimated 3 billion women of childbearing age, menstruating an average of 12 times a year. That is 36 billion preconceived babies dying every single year!

In addition, if a woman reaches menopause or has her reproductive organs removed before all her preconceived babies have had a chance at life, all of her remaining preconceived children will die--and her own body will be their grave.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

65. No, it's called the Curse because menstrual cramps are INCREDIBLY PAINFUL!!!!

Whoever wrote that was not a female.

It's smelly, it's messy and painful, and disabling, 13 times a year for two to four days, times forty-five or so years. I know. I lived it.

[uppityperson]

86. Aw, come on. It was the only time I could play tennis. In white skimpy clothing of course.

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Don't forget about the ones that are "cannibalised!"

The horrors!

[DippyDem]

13. Bwahahahaha! And I cry everytime I try playing with my willy. n/t

[w8liftinglady]

14. LOL!

[Behind the Aegis]

15. No laughing matter! We have to get a head of the problem before it is too late!

(last one, I swear!)

[Warpy]

12. You expect him to learn a medical fact?

You mean like there is NO EGG when a woman is on the pill meaning NO PREGNANCY and that means NO ABORTION?

Steve King is the original fuckhead, just look it up in the dictionary and you'll see his picture instead of a definition.

He, like Rome, believes the ancient homunculus theory, that semen contained tiny perfect male human beings that needed to be planted into the walking flowerpots called women to grow. If something was wrong with the flowerpot, it came out female. Oh, dear, time for a new flowerpot. It's also the reason they think masturbation is such a heinous sin, condemning all those tiny perfect males to death by dehydration in a wad of Kleenex.

I don't know why this thing is in Congress. I think he needs to withdraw, leave his wife, and go into the priesthood. With the amount of fervent ignorance he possesses, I'm sure he'd rise through the ranks quickly.

[sinkingfeeling]

28. Had to give you a heart for that!

[Warpy]

70. Thankee kindly!

[jeff47]

36. To be completely pedantic

There can still be an egg. It's rare, but sometimes ovulation will still occur while a woman is on the pill. If there is one and it gets fertilized, it will be expelled when the pill induces the next period.

That's the basis for the right-wing tools claiming birth control pills cause abortion.

[dixiegrrrrl]

81. One of the best comments I have read this week!

kudos.

[arely staircase]

87. you just blew my mind

of course what's real mind blowing is how real it all is

the catholic heirarchy (from priests to popes) are all celebate men who forbid (with nearly exclusive failure) the millions of catholic women worldwide from using contraception - including married ones, especially married ones since the unwed women shouldn't be having congress with anyone as far as these celebate men are conserned. it is stunning, really. what a calcified, osified and utterly archaic institution. i am not badmouthing the faithful catholic laity; they overwhelmingly support and use contraception.

seriously, what an amazingly absurd situation.

[Warpy]

88. When Catholic believers have had enough of Rome, I steer them toward the Church of England

The Episcopalians in the US are often like a fresh breeze after the stifling atmosphere in a Rome dominated church even when the congregation isn't all that liberal---although most are quite liberal. In any case, the form and dogma are nearly the same minus a bunch of old men in dresses claiming to be infallible and yapping about things they have no business yapping about.

I grew up Irish Catholic. I left when I was in grammar school and never went looking for anything else because I didn't believe a word of any of it. However, I have a great deal of compassion for people who do believe and are in the quandary of wanting to remain Catholic while rejecting the horseshit Rome keeps throwing at them that has absolutely nothing to do with their souls, only their bodies.

My own fervent hope is that the Vatican loses enough support that they are forced to either change their tune or they disappear entirely. I honestly don't care which.

[notadmblnd]

16. I don't know the total count. I do know they have about a 3 month supply.

when my husband had his vasectomy, the Dr told us to continue using BC for another 3-6 months.

[Lawlbringer]

18. Throw me in jail

It should be illegal to put socks in the washing machine, it should fall under child endangerment laws.

[mike_c]

19. yes, but only someone utterly ignorant about reproductive biology thinks about it that way....

Don't ask republicans to consider it too thoroughly, LOL.

Sperm are cheap to produce and relatively easy to deliver, so most male reproductive strategies-- regardless of phylum-- focus upon copious sperm production and frequent copulation or other release of gametes. Ova, on the other hand, are metabolically expensive to produce and, for many animals, even more energy intensive to shepherd through embryogeny. Some species have evolved strategies to mitigate some of that extra female expense using various means for increasing male investment in the success of offspring, or even just improving female reproductive fitness, but the fundamental reproductive disparity remains, even for species in which females invest little beyond the production of ova, such as some broadcast spawning marine invertebrates.

The point is that sperm are designed to be wasted, by the billions. It's an optimized gamete delivery system that minimizes the cost of syngamy while maximizing the likelihood of bringing gametes together.

[w8liftinglady]

22. LOL...that's too much like book learnin'.

I say every sperm cell is a precious cherub,begging to be saved from destruction.

[mike_c]

23. vast armies of "slippery little men...."

[w8liftinglady]

25. LOL!!! Awesome!... precious angels

[niyad]

58. that reminds me of a scene from woody allen's "everything you always wanted to know about sex"

the sperm are about to be ejected, they are all standing around talking, excited--all white except for one black one. woody allen's character worries "it could be a homosexual encounter. I could wind up on the ceiling"

[mike_c]

61. that's where it's from....

eom

[Hugabear]

38. The key point is that every sperm cell has POTENTIAL

There's no way to know which sperm out of all those millions is going to be THE ONE...therefore, they should ALL have the same protections under the law.

[w8liftinglady]

40. Very good point- and human sperm has a 24-48 hour lifespan once "freed"

[HillWilliam]

53. "...relatively easy to deliver..."

It comes with its own applicator!

(h/t Armistead Maupin, Tales of the City)

[Little Star]

20. This thread is priceless! LOL!

[Little Star]

24. I just turned your thread in...

to the DUZY Award's. There! Take that!

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Take that Hitler Mao Stalin!

I can haz more killings!

[Angry Dragon]

27. Don't forget to claim all those babies on your tax return

[JoePhilly]

56. Claim them ... ha ... I plan to INCLUDE about 100,000,000 of them on the actual form!!!

The government is going to be sending me a HUGE refund!!!

[Sheepshank]

29. I really think that a sacred sperm bill......

is going to run into exceptional stiff opposition.

Including this type of explosive trigger will definintly put many moderates over the top, however, I agree it would put many over the moon.

Can you even imagine the gyrations of thrusting such a bill into the slippery hole of bill writing and then hoping for a passage?

I seriously wonder at the crazed screaming and moaning that would accompany such a bill.

[w8liftinglady]

31. LOL.. you can tell it's Friday!

[Hugabear]

34. Um...does this mean that oral sex = cannibalism?

Just following the logic train...

[w8liftinglady]

37. Very good point... Maybe Rep King can clarify this for us?

[Redstate Bluegirl]

35. LOL

[Fuzz]

39. I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest, with a grey gym sock.

Entire nations have flaked and crusted in the hair around my navel.

I have tossed universes, in my underpants, while napping.

Bill Hicks

[peacefreak]

42. IBTL

this thread is spewing the juices of a classic!

[kestrel91316]

43. Well, to be technically correct that would be "pre-joined semi-babies".

[PassingFair]

46. Or, simply, "the pre-conceived". n/t

[Scuba]

45. Not me.

Clipper club.

[w8liftinglady]

47. awww... a cute baby suit for the pre-conceived semi-baby

?

[Poll_Blind]

60. Ha! I love it!

And it's true!

PB

[lunatica]

49. I've dared them to tell me a sperm isn't a living thing

No one can say it isn't.

So yeah, you're right.

[Yupster]

74. This was always a problem for me

In high school, my science teacher gave us a definition of life.

It was a long time ago, but basically it was that a living thing can ingest nutrients, expel wastes, and reproduce.

So under this definition, a sperm is not a living thing, but you look at a microscope and see it swimming around.

Never got a chance to ask him that. Too embarrassed at the time (long time ago - different era), so now I'm still wishing I had 40 years later.

[Thor_MN]

76. My science teacher

told us that when he learned that each ejaculation could impregnate 280 million women, that immediately became his goal.

[Noodleboy13]

51. I've killed billions in my sleep.

I'm just that bad-ass.

peace,
Noodleboy

[northoftheborder]

62. Duzy Award for sure!!!

[joeybee12]

63. For some of us, it's about twice that...

[w8liftinglady]

64. NOW you're bragging!

[joeybee12]

83. Merely stating facts!

[w8liftinglady]

66. Ok... a quick question... when a woman has an orgasm

How many babies does she kill?

[DavidDvorkin]

67. Not me. I had a vasectomy. I store those babies inside me until ...

er, they die.

[w8liftinglady]

68. aww... I found some underwear to express your devotion to the dead

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/4157316/views/1,width=178,height=178,interlace=true/white-every-sperm-is-sacred-underwear_design.png

[DavidDvorkin]

90. Er, what?

[northoftheborder]

69. Many of you forgot to recommend this thread!

[Mnemosyne]

71. W8liftinglady, this thread is hysterical! thank you! n/t

[w8liftinglady]

72. Ahhhh... I feel cleansed !

[donheld]

73. I find that very hard to swallow.

[Kennah]

75. Rep. King should take the matter into his own hands

[Warren DeMontague]

77. No, no, no. See, the sperm and unfertilized egg have 23 chromosomes each, and are alive, but they

don't have any rights and aren't really alive and are actually sort of inconvenient for the purposes of anti-choice discussion.

When they merge, and those 2 sets of 23 chromosomes become 1 set of 46 in a fertilized egg, they magically immediately transmogrify into a "baby" with "rights" because, uh, well, because we say so.

I don't know how anyone can argue with such iron-clad logic. Sigh.

[cherokeeprogressive]

80. KILLS?

You're joking, right? Or being sarcastic maybe?

If I ejaculate into a woman's vagina, am I KILLING 229,999,999, babies if she only has ONE?

Please...

[Warren DeMontague]

82. Yes, you are.

Because a sperm and an unfertilized egg are the same thing as a fertilized egg which is the EXACT SAME THING as a baby.

Haven't you been paying attention to Karen Handel?

[thesquanderer]

84. well not really...

Okay, this may not be the thread to take anything seriously, but for those who believe that a fetus is a human life, well, technically, science will confirm that (a) it is indeed alive, and (b) it is also, genetically speaking, human, having a complete set of human DNA. Whether it's a "person" is a different issue, but it is, from a biological perspective, a human life.

Since the unfertilized egg and the sperm only carry half the DNA sequence, neither could be said to be, genetically, a human.

[w8liftinglady]

89. actually,I posted this in response to THIS

http://video.app.msn.com/watch/video/president-s-compromise-does-not-satisfy-all/60dfy6p?cpkey=351f2435-9111-4f79-8549-9059440235c9%7C%7C%7C%7C

don't watch while sober...around 5:20

[Iggo]

85. Nice post, Anita Bryant.