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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:28 PM Jun 2013

New Jersey Man Who Named Son After Adolf Hitler Shows Up For Family Court Hearing Wearing Full Nazi

Uniform.

The New Jersey man who is fighting to regain custody of his young children--one of whom he named Adolf Hitler Campbell--showed up today for a Family Court hearing wearing a full Nazi uniform and a Hitler mustache.

Heath Campbell, founder of the Hitler’s Order hate group, appeared this morning at a Flemington, New Jersey courthouse for a closed hearing on his request for visitation with his youngest child, a two-year-old boy.

In November 2011, the child (and his three siblings) were taken into custody by state welfare officials, who accused Campbell, 40, and his wife of child abuse. Campbell has contended that he never neglected his children, claiming that they were seized by the state solely due to the their names (one of his daughters is JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell).

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/nazi-dad-in-family-court-691243

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New Jersey Man Who Named Son After Adolf Hitler Shows Up For Family Court Hearing Wearing Full Nazi (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
I guess that's one way to impress the court! n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #1
yeah, this guy clearly missed the point of the hearing arely staircase Jun 2013 #33
And who said "The Onion" is dead! Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #2
This is what killed the Onion. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2013 #12
The Onion isn't dead. The article proclaiming its demise was meta-satire. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #26
Alerting! ... you said "META" nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2013 #29
i guess he doesn't want the kids back JI7 Jun 2013 #3
Well, if he's in the market for a new teapot, I have an idea. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #4
You win. zappaman Jun 2013 #5
You are so lucky I wasn't drinking my soda right then! Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #10
This guy and his wife are two people who should be forced not to produce more children.l southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #30
Duzy!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #32
DUzy malaise Jun 2013 #34
His lawyer is Josef Geobbels Smith. rug Jun 2013 #6
They LOOSE! elleng Jun 2013 #7
I see a new reality TV series in the fall olddots Jun 2013 #8
Kindergarten Nazi. rug Jun 2013 #9
Perhaps not too surprisingly, Neo-Nazis don't tend to be the sharpest tools in the shed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #11
so true nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #16
If only this were made up shenmue Jun 2013 #13
10 to 1 says he can't speak German. n/t cigsandcoffee Jun 2013 #14
I bet he's never read Mein Kompf either. /nt dballance Jun 2013 #23
It's extremely hard to read Mein Kampf jmowreader Jun 2013 #36
Don't be a stupid, be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi Party! Initech Jun 2013 #15
Is being a Nazi child abuse or neglect? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #17
although there was evidence of domestic abuse cali Jun 2013 #18
Teaching a child bigotry constitutes child abuse in my book. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #35
Just for general thread info, the children weren't removed for their names or parents' beliefs Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #19
Nah. They were pretty clearly removed because of the parents' believes. cali Jun 2013 #20
Here is more from the ABC story: Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #22
oh c'mon. I worked for years as a GAL cali Jun 2013 #24
I defer to your experience. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #25
Numerous news reports detail domestic abuse Major Nikon Jun 2013 #31
If I were the judge, I'd give him 30 days in the slammer for contempt for that get-up. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #21
His 15 minutes of fame and chances of winning his custody fight will end at the same moment. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #27
There is a perfectly innocent explanation. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #28

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
33. yeah, this guy clearly missed the point of the hearing
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jun 2013

to convince the judge he isn't too crazy to be around his kid. My mother, who practices a lot of family law, has seen this (well not exactly this) many times - like the people who call the CPS employees making the decision in their case motherfuckers.

Behind the Aegis

(53,989 posts)
2. And who said "The Onion" is dead!
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jun 2013

Oh wait...this shit is for real.

Anti-Semitism: it isn't just for Nazis anymore (but those fuckers still love it!)

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
36. It's extremely hard to read Mein Kampf
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jun 2013

There is a law against selling Mein Kampf in Germany. While I was stationed there a reporter for a German television station illegally went onto the compound where our post exchange was (it was called Trumanplatz), went into the bookstore and bought one of the copies of Mein Kampf they were selling. And of course there was a huge uproar from the German population over this terrible thing.

So us being assholes sometimes, we all went to the Stars and Lies Bookstore and bought copies of the damn thing.

Hitler couldn't write. Mein Kampf is this meandering piece of shit that only True Believers will ever be able to figure out, or stay awake long enough to finish. It's kinda like Atlas Shrugged, but Hitler and Ayn Rand had the ass over different groups of people.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. although there was evidence of domestic abuse
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

it's pretty clear that the court considered the parents being Nazis as sufficient to permanently sever the parent child relationship for all 4 children.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/adolf-hitler-campbell-custody-battle-nazi-names-new-jersey_n_1561046.html

I want to add that I think you raise a good point. I don't know what I think about this.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
19. Just for general thread info, the children weren't removed for their names or parents' beliefs
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

That is Heath Campbell's assertion, because that's the issue he'd like to win on, but that's not why the kids were ultimately removed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/adolf-hitler-campbell-custody-battle-nazi-names-new-jersey_n_1561046.html

"A state appeals court ruled in 2010 that the children were put at risk of abuse and neglect based on a history of domestic violence in the home, ABC News reported. Deborah Campbell once slipped a note under a neighbor's door saying she was terrified of her husband because he had threatened to kill her, according to court documents. Adolf Hitler Campbell also frequently threatened to kill people, ABC News added.

Now, after a three-year battle, the Campbells cannot have custody of their children, according to the court. Heath Campbell last saw his children about a year ago and is now separated from his wife, who moved out of the state, the Star-Ledger reported.

Attorneys on both sides of the case are not allowed to speak to the press due to a gag order, but the children's father spoke out against the ruling. His kids weren't removed from their home for abuse, he argued, but for their parents' beliefs and the names they chose to reflect those sentiments.

"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I'll do it," Heath Campbell told the Star-Ledger. "[The children are] more my heart and soul and everything than anything."

Odious as he is, his free speech isn't being trampled. Plenty of hate group leaders don't get their kids taken away for their hateful crap. The children were removed for having their welfare in danger. (I must admit I do think raising children in a hateful environment is child abuse, but that isn't what this case is about.)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. Nah. They were pretty clearly removed because of the parents' believes.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

Mom is separated from Dad, why aren't the kids with her.

It couldn't be more obvious that these kids were taken from their parents for the parents Nazi beliefs.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
22. Here is more from the ABC story:
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jun 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-cannot-regain-custody-children-nazi-inspired/story?id=11334970#.Ua0HymSY6hZ

"Their parents, Heath Campbell, 37, and Deborah Campbell, 27, both unemployed and disabled, were abused as children and "neither has received adequate treament for their serious psychological conditions," the three-judge panel of the Superior Court of New Jersey Appellate Division.

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The family made headlines back in 2009 when a ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, N.J., refused to inscribe Adolf Hitler Campbell's name on a cake for his third birthday. At the time, police and child protection officials took the children into protective custody, declining to reveal the exact reason but indicating it was not because of the children's names.

Today's ruling reversed a family court order that determined there was insufficient evidence that the parents had abused or neglected the children. The appeals court sent the case back to family court for further monitoring.

The 49-page ruling shed light on the bleak life inside the Campbell home in Holland Township, where windows were nailed shut and "unusual decorative features" included skulls and knives. DYFS first became involved in the case in December 2008 after receiving complaints that the children were being strapped into their booster seats for unusually long periods of time amid ongoing domestic violence."

Looks like Mom has many issues too and was already considered a danger to the children by the courts.


 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. oh c'mon. I worked for years as a GAL
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jun 2013

it couldn't be clearer that the Nazi behavior was instrumental in the children being removed- and no, no court will say that.

there was evidently no attempt at the usual steps taken in cases like this one- without the Nazi element.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
25. I defer to your experience.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:28 PM
Jun 2013

I hope for the best outcome. The ABC story painted a pretty bleak existence for the kids.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
31. Numerous news reports detail domestic abuse
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jun 2013

The father has been married twice before and a previous wife has a restraining order against him. One of the children is terrified of vacuum cleaners because he was beaten with one. The wife left him and had previously slipped a note to a neighbor claiming she was afraid her husband was going to kill her. One of the kids threatened to kill their foster parent. Child services has received multiple complaints on the couple.

It isn't obvious to me that his Nazi beliefs are all there is to it.

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