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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:33 PM Feb 2012

Catholic Church versus Health Insurance Industry….and States Rights

To hear some Republicans talk, Obama is about to force all the nation’s private insurers to offer coverage for contraceptive services, radically altering health care in this country. This is not true. As of 2004,

Nearly nine in 10 group insurance plans purchased by employers for their employees now cover a full range of prescription contraceptives.


http://www.guttmacher.org/media/nr/2004/06/15/index.html

Contraception is a no brainer for an insurance plan. Pregnancy---and especially the cost of a complicated pregnancy which could soar into the millions if a premature baby requires NICU care---is expensive. Birth control is cheap.

From an employer’s point of view, a woman using contraception is much less likely to take sick time, request maternity leave or decide to quit work and stay at home.

Here is something that some folks may find even more surprising:

Currently, the majority of private health plans cover abortion care as part of a broader health care package.


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/abortion-care-coverage-health-care-reform-getting-facts-straight-29733.htm

Why do a majority of private plans cover abortion? Do they hate life? No, they realize that an elective termination is cheaper than pregnancy, particularly an unplanned, potentially complicated pregnancy.

The Catholic Church wants the federal government to allow employers to “opt out” of contraception coverage. This is not simply the Catholic Church versus the Feds. This is the Vatican versus Your State’s Rights. Because a majority of states now require that employers sponsored health insurance include birth control coverage.

At least 26 states have laws requiring insurers that cover prescription drugs also provide coverage for any Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved contraceptive. These states include: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.



http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/insurance-coverage-for-contraception-state-laws.aspx

What happens to California’s birth control mandate if the Catholic Church succeeds in getting the federal government (say under a Rick Santorum administration) to make contraception coverage “optional”? Which way would the (Catholic dominated) Supreme Court lean if asked to consider this states rights versus federal rights issue? Hint: the SCOTUS threw states rights out the window in Bush v. Gore. And then what happens if the Church launches a boycott of employers who voluntarily offer contraception coverage? Not all at once. One at a time, picking off easy targets in order to pressure struggling businesses across the country to shed birth control coverage for its employees?

It is always depressing when we have to go back and defend one of the milestones in the road for equality. We should be plowing forward, not losing ground.


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Catholic Church versus Health Insurance Industry….and States Rights (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 OP
Facts have never stood in the way, you know that . russspeakeasy Feb 2012 #1
No. He's going to make a speech about how he compromised, but the CC still wanted to outlaw msanthrope Feb 2012 #2
religious extremists are going to lose RainDog Feb 2012 #5
Not eating crap food is a pragmatic no-brainer too Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #3
The ultimate human rights violation ThereGoYou Feb 2012 #4
this is a joke, right? RainDog Feb 2012 #6
but, in case it's not a joke RainDog Feb 2012 #7

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
1. Facts have never stood in the way, you know that .
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:38 PM
Feb 2012

If Mr. O. had a good advisory team they would tell him to ignore this shit and make every speech about the economy.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
2. No. He's going to make a speech about how he compromised, but the CC still wanted to outlaw
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:41 PM
Feb 2012

birth control.

At the end of the day, women in CC-owned businesses still have free birth control. And the CC gets to explain why PBO's compromise isn't good enough for them.

The CC loses this fight, and it presages how the culture wars are to be won.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. Not eating crap food is a pragmatic no-brainer too
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:43 PM
Feb 2012

but if you try to impose a government mandate you'll bring down an avalanche of political opposition.

ThereGoYou

(1 post)
4. The ultimate human rights violation
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:38 AM
Feb 2012

Why do Progressives want to force the Catholic Charities to pay for the ultimate human rights violation – not being born?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
6. this is a joke, right?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:57 AM
Feb 2012

this is the "every sperm is sacred" argument.

I wonder if the bishops spit or swallowed when they molested those boys?

what moral authority does this organization have to say anything about human life? none.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
7. but, in case it's not a joke
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:59 AM
Feb 2012

Catholic Charities are not asked to pay. insurance cos are paying. the church just doesn't want to have to provide healthcare to females because they think they have a right to control the private lives of their employees.

sort of like slavery.

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