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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:37 PM Jun 2013

Could you effectively do your job without a computer?

Been thinking, if the lights go off, what skills and jobs suddenly become impossible or unnecessary.

I am an analyst who works with thousands of data points each day. Without a computer, there is no way I could effectively do my job.

I guess to narrow this even more, I would be very hard-pressed to do my job without Excel specifically.

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Could you effectively do your job without a computer? (Original Post) Godhumor Jun 2013 OP
No Marrah_G Jun 2013 #1
no, but started working in the 80s using pencil and graph paper Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #2
Half of it, yes. I'd miss powerpoint and digital imagery/video in the classroom and petronius Jun 2013 #3
No. I work on networks DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #4
don't have a job, but my computer is my DesertFlower Jun 2013 #5
Yes a la izquierda Jun 2013 #6
You find another spreadsheet/graphics program/stats program whatever. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #7
Absolutely. femmocrat Jun 2013 #8
my job, no Skittles Jun 2013 #9
IT + R&D ... nope, lol. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #10
Jobs are so twentieth century Fumesucker Jun 2013 #11
Software is tough without computers. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #12
I program computers for a living. That's what I've done for 35 years. Xipe Totec Jun 2013 #13
Current incarnation of my job? No... Pelican Jun 2013 #14
No. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #15
I do computer support SteveG Jun 2013 #16
Currently unemployed, but no way on my last job. TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #17
It would take much longer, but yes I could. BainsBane Jun 2013 #18
Without electricity, we would lose our units if we're not able to keep them refrigerated... cynatnite Jun 2013 #19
Yes but it would take more humans and paper. KentuckyWoman Jun 2013 #20
Well, the money makers of my family are both computer programmers. Neoma Jun 2013 #21
sorta but not really--i sell broadband dembotoz Jun 2013 #22
part of it tabbycat31 Jun 2013 #23
Yes, just a little differently Nikia Jun 2013 #24
If the lights go out, any job not involved in growing food or making shelter. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #25
Software Developer (snob term for Computer Programmer), so no. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #26
Yes. I do construction. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #27
Yes. In fact, I'd probably get more done. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #28
Sure MadrasT Jun 2013 #29
No way. prole_for_peace Jun 2013 #30
I was a nurse. We could do our jobs when the system crashed Warpy Jun 2013 #31
Yes! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #32
Yep...not as effectively but could and has been done without for millennia pipoman Jun 2013 #33
Yes, I'm a lawyer. We didn't use computers when I started. Shrike47 Jun 2013 #34
Is your research mostly on line or CD? Downwinder Jun 2013 #41
Yes. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #35
I teach ice skating NYFlip Jun 2013 #36
Or light. Downwinder Jun 2013 #39
Not a chance. I use computers to do some heavy numerical analysis. Lucky Luciano Jun 2013 #37
Yes. Horse training biz with an organic veggie operation as well. riderinthestorm Jun 2013 #38
Absolutely not. No how, no way. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #40
yes olddots Jun 2013 #42
ha no never hollysmom Jun 2013 #43
No. I work from home ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #44
As an auto mechanic, no bhikkhu Jun 2013 #45
Yes, but it would be in libraries, talking to people, wait nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #46
I'm a DB admin, so it would make work somewhat challenging. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #47
Accountant for the Govt. The system I use has 1.75 terrabytes of ram. No I could not Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #48
Yes, but it would take more time. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #49
Yes but much slower.... MAD Dave Jun 2013 #50
I'm a health care aide. I need the internet applegrove Jun 2013 #51
Yes, but it would take quite a bit more time. LAGC Jun 2013 #52
Librarian (retired) No Vested Interest Jun 2013 #53
Sort of, as a hospice nurse, 8 years ago we had no computers. But, mucifer Jun 2013 #54
I could go back to hand/manual drafting. kentauros Jun 2013 #55
Yes. CottonBear Jun 2013 #56
I look after a website. It might get a bit difficult... Violet_Crumble Jun 2013 #57
i am a stay at home mom... i could do that without a computer, but i don't want to. lol. ejpoeta Jun 2013 #58
Not effectively JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #59
No way. Laelth Jun 2013 #60
Not at all Tien1985 Jun 2013 #61
I work as an accountant Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #62
I have top notch organizational skills. randome Jun 2013 #63
No. Not anymore. Tracer Jun 2013 #64
My job is fixing computers. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #65

petronius

(26,603 posts)
3. Half of it, yes. I'd miss powerpoint and digital imagery/video in the classroom and
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jun 2013

I'd need to take a training session in chalk-board drawing, but most of my teaching could be done effectively. The GIS course would be cancelled, of course.

The research part of my job would be near-impossible, however. I have a great admiration for my academic forebears who performed complicated analyses on large datasets with pencils and calculators, but I have no wish to emulate them...

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
5. don't have a job, but my computer is my
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jun 2013

link to the outside world. i have so much information stored in my bookmarks.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
7. You find another spreadsheet/graphics program/stats program whatever.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jun 2013

Without your comp, you'd be back at it with graph paper, long calculations, and very limited data sets.

In answer to your question: I do not use paper unless mandated to do so. 100% electronic.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
8. Absolutely.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

In fact, the computer is a huge time-waster for me. I spent 2 1/2 hours on Friday trying to register, log in, get two different confirmations, and then try to enter something on Google Docs. This is now required for work. When the hell am I supposed to find time to read and write stuff for Google Docs? I am also supposed to maintain a website which no one reads. Some school administrators have waaaay too much time on their hands and no idea of how I spend my time during the school day.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. Jobs are so twentieth century
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jun 2013

I have a lot of skills that I can use without a computer, it's the making money part that's hard.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
14. Current incarnation of my job? No...
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jun 2013

However in the post apocalyptic world combat veterans should be in high demand. I'm good...

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
16. I do computer support
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jun 2013

I'd be toast.
but in a previous life I was a carpenter, and while it would take me a bit to regain those skills, I have no doubt I could.

TexasTowelie

(112,347 posts)
17. Currently unemployed, but no way on my last job.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jun 2013

I was a stat analyst for an insurance company and did nearly all of my work in Microsoft Access. I would Excel only when dealing with less sophisticated computer users.

The times when the computer network was down I would clean my cubicle and catch up on the filing.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
19. Without electricity, we would lose our units if we're not able to keep them refrigerated...
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

We would be struggling to protect the frozen plasma and refrigerated blood. The back-up generator would have to be failing as well.

It would take an extreme set of circumstances for us to be in that position.

If computers went down, which has happened, we could do our jobs in a limited capacity.

KentuckyWoman

(6,690 posts)
20. Yes but it would take more humans and paper.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

And I would not mind no power long term. Those who live in hotter geography would suffer but I'd be fine until I needed life saving help someday and electric no longer exists.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
21. Well, the money makers of my family are both computer programmers.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know what they'd do without computers...

dembotoz

(16,820 posts)
22. sorta but not really--i sell broadband
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jun 2013

I don't need a computer to sell
but without a computer broadband is sorta silly

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
23. part of it
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jun 2013

But it would be very difficult if not impossible given the state of the industry and the software that we've all been accustomed to. And it is easier to keep track of things on Google docs and excel than it is with a pen and paper.

However, my industry does not provide computers. You are expected to use your personal laptop.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
24. Yes, just a little differently
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jun 2013

I'm a quality supervisor and a supplement company. A number of tasks are computerized, but a lot of it is not or could be done through paper if we did not have computers.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
25. If the lights go out, any job not involved in growing food or making shelter.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jun 2013

It's back to the preindustrial age when most people were involved in agriculture.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
27. Yes. I do construction.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jun 2013

Power tools are a convenience but I could do my job without electricity like they did in the old days if necessary.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
29. Sure
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jun 2013

I am a project manager and an aerospace auditor

Part of my job is basically just herding cats and I track things with post it notes now anyway

The other part is watching what people do and deciding if it is in compliance or not

Do not need computers

prole_for_peace

(2,064 posts)
30. No way.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jun 2013

I'm a tax accountant and my computer does a good amount of the work for me. I could never memorize the whole tax code.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
31. I was a nurse. We could do our jobs when the system crashed
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jun 2013

but had to stay late once it was back up in order to enter all our data. It sucked.

Pre computer nursing was easier. While there was more scribbling, it took a lot less time since there was less redundancy.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
33. Yep...not as effectively but could and has been done without for millennia
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jun 2013

Cooking for several hundred people a day happened before a lot of things..

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
34. Yes, I'm a lawyer. We didn't use computers when I started.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:41 PM
Jun 2013

Of course, I'm basically a trial lawyer. Talk, talk, talk.

Lucky Luciano

(11,258 posts)
37. Not a chance. I use computers to do some heavy numerical analysis.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 12:27 AM
Jun 2013

A lit of C++ and C# excel add-ins that are used to solve a bunch of PDEs to price a lot of different financial instruments. That is just the beginning too. So, no way.

We do have disaster recovery sites outside of NYC just in case an electro magnetic pulse ever shut down all electronics in ZnYC...just in case. Mainly the DR site helps if there is something worse than Sandy coming our way.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
38. Yes. Horse training biz with an organic veggie operation as well.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jun 2013

I actually started my biz with all paper record keeping, and tax filing. If I had to, 20 years later, I could revert to manual processing but what I actually do would not be hindered at all by the lack of a computer.

Our business credibility and reputation are earned daily/weekly/monthly/annually by sheer performance out in the field where we compete and that has little to do with an online rep.



bhikkhu

(10,720 posts)
45. As an auto mechanic, no
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jun 2013

doing wheel alignments, I haven't ever even seen it done in 25 years without a sensor set-up, which reads out on a console. Years ago I remember seeing some manual camber gauges, but I've never seen the tools used for marking and measuring toe. Without a computer, a 20 minute job would take over an hour (once tools were acquired), and the outcome would be questionable.

The other part of the job is I do most of the invoicing, receiving, reconciling bank statements and balancing accounts on the computer. It takes a few minutes a day, and then maybe an hour at the end of each month for reconciling. Without the computer it would be a full time job, and definitely not one I would want to do.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
46. Yes, but it would be in libraries, talking to people, wait
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:54 AM
Jun 2013

We do that pretty much.



What would be next to impossible (at least in the beginning) would be the photo side

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
48. Accountant for the Govt. The system I use has 1.75 terrabytes of ram. No I could not
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jun 2013

not with all the data out there.

MAD Dave

(204 posts)
50. Yes but much slower....
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:13 AM
Jun 2013

.....Interestingly, I've actually did the testing I currently do in University without a PC. BTW I'm an analytical chemist.

applegrove

(118,749 posts)
51. I'm a health care aide. I need the internet
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:21 AM
Jun 2013

to coordinate with my sister and suss out products that will help me with my patients (mom & dad). I certainly don't use the computer every day but would be lost without it.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
52. Yes, but it would take quite a bit more time.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:52 AM
Jun 2013

Night auditor for a small hotel.

Using the bucket to check which rooms are empty for any given day is easy enough, but planning things out for events or busy periods in a given week down the road is much more problematic. The PMS (Property Management System) software makes sure we don't over-book any given room-type.

And calculating all the daily numbers for the nightly audit report? With electricity: just a few clicks of a button and maybe 10 minutes. Without electricity: plan on it taking all night, the entire 8-hour shift.

We've had to wing it during prolonged power outages before, but its not fun.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
53. Librarian (retired)
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:55 AM
Jun 2013

Not in today's world.

The card catalogs are gone. It would be difficult to get access to appropriate books and materials.
Much of today's info is not in books.

I was more of an info specialist/reference librarian than into literature.

Haven't read a book cover to cover in years because nearly all my info comes through computers or the daily newspaper I still subscribe to.

mucifer

(23,558 posts)
54. Sort of, as a hospice nurse, 8 years ago we had no computers. But,
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 03:42 AM
Jun 2013

we go to about 5 different homes a day. It took a lot of less time using paper. But, we as professionals couldn't share info as well because the written charts were kept in the office with some information in the patient's home. We tried to do all the communication regarding changes in pt conditions on voice mail. Now we have laptops, so although we still use voice mail and call each other,it's much easier and it's safer for the patient.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
55. I could go back to hand/manual drafting.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 03:54 AM
Jun 2013

But I wouldn't get nearly as much work done.

Plus, I don't want to do drafting to the end of my days. I'd rather write fiction. While I can certainly write by hand, it's slower and far more cramping of my muscles than typing it (on a keyboard, not a typewriter.) I also don't want to go through the hassle (and less lucrative) route of the legacy publishers, and instead go direct to the reader through ebooks. Can't really do it that way without computers/electricity.

Then again, I'm not the least bit worried about any of these worst possible scenarios ever taking place

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
56. Yes.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 03:57 AM
Jun 2013

I am a gardener at a botanical garden. I'm also a part-time cafe server & barista.

Growing plants and making/serving food and drinks are pretty basic.

Violet_Crumble

(35,976 posts)
57. I look after a website. It might get a bit difficult...
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 03:58 AM
Jun 2013

I guess I could draw the things I want and wait patiently for the reinvention of computers so I can bring them to reality...

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
58. i am a stay at home mom... i could do that without a computer, but i don't want to. lol.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:23 AM
Jun 2013

it keeps me semi sane. my husband definitely couldn't do his job without a computer. he fixes printers for a company and he works out of the house. has to file all his stuff virtually. he updates software, replaces parts.... though, he could get a job fixing almost anything if he had to. but he likes his job now.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
60. No way.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jun 2013

In fact, I laugh when I think of survivalists packing up supplies in anticipation of the collapse of our society. They're fooling themselves. Our society is very, very dependent on electricity now (and computers too).

-Laelth

Tien1985

(920 posts)
61. Not at all
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:37 AM
Jun 2013

I sequence DNA and use all sorts of machines (hooked into computers) to put the information into something a human eye can understand.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
62. I work as an accountant
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:38 AM
Jun 2013

Accountants worked without computers for thousands of years, so it is possible, but I really have no experience doing in manually, with the exception of a few easy books in college classes. On a large scale, it would be very difficult, but at least still possible (and still very necessary, so I guess I would have to make due)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
63. I have top notch organizational skills.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:45 AM
Jun 2013

I'm a programmer but without computers I would find other ways to stay organized and process information.

We all would.

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Tracer

(2,769 posts)
64. No. Not anymore.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:00 AM
Jun 2013

I'm a Graphic Designer doing 100% of my work on the computer. Every time the power goes out (I work at home) I'm screwed. Helpless and temporarily out of business. Once, during a several day power outage, I had to pack up the computer and drive to my son's house to work there -- just so I could do business.

It's not even possible to go back to the "old way" of doing design (physical paste-up) because the support businesses have mostly disappeared -- type houses, stat cameras, dedicated messengers etc.

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