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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:02 AM Feb 2012

Decline and Fall of the Mall?


from OnTheCommons.org:



Decline and Fall of the Mall?
As shopping migrates to the Internet, downtowns may gain an advantage over strip malls and big boxes

By Jay Walljasper


In December while you were wrapped in holiday festivities, a huge shift was occurring in the American economy—one that will have a major influence on our towns and cities.

What happened? A lot of Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanzaa and Solstice shopping migrated to the Internet.

It’s been a steady trend for years, but finally hit home in 2012. After enduring dampened sales over the past three holiday shopping seasons, America’s retailers were counting on a consumer comeback. Big sales on Black Friday looked promising, but when all the receipts were counted, it was another year of yuletide restraint—at least in brick-and-mortar stores. Meanwhile Internet sales continued to rise.

After New Years Sears, K-mart and even swank Bloomingdale’s announced nationwide store closings. It’s very likely holiday shoppers will discover even more empty storefronts next December. .................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://onthecommons.org/decline-and-fall-mall



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Decline and Fall of the Mall? (Original Post) marmar Feb 2012 OP
Sadly. While I dislike malls it's clear the replacement jobs will not be local. Pholus Feb 2012 #1
Malls have replaced downtown retail areas as the communal gathering place rurallib Feb 2012 #3
I really, really miss going to the mall. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #2
Agreed Mr Dixon Feb 2012 #6
I'll mostly miss the food courts. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #4
I live under a mile from the Mall IDemo Feb 2012 #5
Malls died for me when all the arcades closed Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #7
Same here . . . HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #8
We had an Aladdin's, too among other places... Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #9

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
1. Sadly. While I dislike malls it's clear the replacement jobs will not be local.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:13 AM
Feb 2012

In the middle of the country (MN) where I grew up 40 years ago, I remember nothing but family stores as a kid.

The first "big box" (Pamida) coming in was a major fight for our town. People at the time thought that the businessmen were greedy and just couldn't stand the idea of competition --they welcomed the change. They were wrong.

Pamida wasn't that bad. But then it got worse...

Walmart came in and dried up the family stores (and Pamida). Lots of comfortable jobs destroyed in favor of the minimum wage. The town population declined sharply.

Now the internet will dry up what managed to stay in the margins of what Walmart didn't do. Of course, that means the minimum wage jobs will now be somewhere else in someone else's shipping rooms.

As much as I detest malls, at least those jobs are local.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
3. Malls have replaced downtown retail areas as the communal gathering place
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:29 AM
Feb 2012

don't know if the demise of the mall is good or bad. America continues to splinter into more and more individual isolation.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. I really, really miss going to the mall.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:22 AM
Feb 2012

Because searching for a parking spot, fighting the crowds and waiting in line is so much more fun than clicking the "one-click Prime free 2-day delivery" button on Amazon.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
4. I'll mostly miss the food courts.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

Being able to go with 4 people and each eat at a different shitty restaurant, yet all sit together.

We didn't appreciate what we had, and now we're losing it.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
5. I live under a mile from the Mall
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:39 AM
Feb 2012

and haven't been there in years. I may make an exception soon for some JC Penney's shopping, though.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
8. Same here . . .
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 11:10 AM
Feb 2012

. . . it was amazing going in Aladdin's Castle to see what new game would be there this month. I'd be there for hours at a time when I wasn't grounded due to bad grades.

Once video games became nothing but glitzy endless 3-D versions of Pole Position, Karate Champ and Wolfenstien 3-D, I kind of lost interest. Smash TV was the last video game I played regularly in the arcades. Thank whoever for MAME . . . and too bad I don't live near FunSpot in NH, or I'd be there every day.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. We had an Aladdin's, too among other places...
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:32 PM
Feb 2012

I practically grew up in the arcades, even when I had no money I'd enjoy trying to watch and learn from the really great players...

It's really sad at how game makers pulled the plug on arcade development...Even when I find an arcade now the "newest" games are all from the late 90s, and are beat up, faded, and barely workable in most cases...Running an arcade used to be a matter of gamer pride, and now the folks working there could care less...

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