You know I've been thinking..These Catholic nuts have are all up in arms over birth control

[Ecumenist]

which, by the way, is often used for other medically necessary reasons that women ABSOLUTELY have, outside of contraception BUT I notice that these same f#ckers haven't made one peep about borken d*ck medicine,,,(cialis, viagra, etc). "Erectile dysfunction" meds are FAR more likely to result in "sinfully related activities" than B'C, ever would be.

I noticed they keep screaming religious freedom about birth control but NOT ONE PEEP about broken Dyck medicine. I'm sick to death of the hypocrisy

[niyad]

1. but the broken dick thing is about men, not the chattel.

[silverweb]

4. Bingo.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]You nailed it.

[pintobean]

2. I think the idea is "pro-creation"

Be fruitful and multiply.

That's not going to happen if one is trying to put a marshmallow in a piggy bank.

[Tsiyu]

17. But many 'believers' think sex is ONLY for procreation

Most menopausal women won't get pregnant no matter how many deposits you make "in the piggy bank."

So if you're a man married to a menopausal woman, sex with her is sinful. Sex with your fertile mistress is also sinful. So why would you need Broken Dyck Medicine unless you are SINNING? Fornicating? Adulterating?

[pintobean]

19. That's all true.

Masturbation is also a sin.

They believe in miracles, so anything is possible.

[alfredo]

3. I think Obama just played them real bad.

[politicasista]

31. +1 n/t

[southernyankeebelle]

5. Please, please not ALL catholics are Up and Arms over the birth control pills. I'm catholic and

have lots of catholics in my family and they agree with the president. I just saw a poll that 53% of catholics support the president.

[Ecumenist]

7. I know that not all Catholics are in that mindset. My husband is Catholic and my favourite

Aunt and Uncle are. They definitely don't agree with these idiots. I really meant the nuts that don't think about others lives. They're only worried about controlliing women.

[southernyankeebelle]

9. I wonder how the local priest feel about it? Many know the women use birth control. Its the

higher ups in the church.

[Auntie Bush]

10. Good for you and all your family.

My daughter has to use the pill due to extreme, incapacitating pain that lasts for days...but she'd love to have a baby and wishes she didn't have to take it. Her brother-in-law is a priest and she knows she has his blessings.

[southernyankeebelle]

13. I think alot of local priest who really are down in the parish really understand what is going on

with families. Birth control is a woman's decision. For me I took it for a short time. I didn't have a good reaction to it. I went ahead and had my baby. After that my husband got a vacatomy. I had a very hard time carry a baby at the age of 32. I was so sick the whole 9 months only gainning 3 pds the last month.

[earthside]

11. No, it's not all Catholics.

It is just their leaders.

And the members have NO real power over their leaders.

It is an authoritarian hierarchical organization. The Roman church is not a democracy the way Protestant churches are i.e., the members elect their organizational leaders and representatives.

After all the scandal in this organization and the increasingly extremist conservative bishopric ... well, how do nominal and everyday Catholics stay a part of this church?

This controversy really shows the huge disconnect between the clergy and the members -- 98% of sexually active adult Catholics reject by their behavior church dogma on contraception.

Very strange and hard to understand in a country based on the concept of democracy and freedom of conscience.

[southernyankeebelle]

12. Your right. I is difficult to understand. I was born a catholic and I will die a catholic.

I don't go to organized church any longer because I don't like the way the church has gotten involved in politics. I do watch on ocassions mass on the catholic channel. I still pray every night and ask god for blessings for all of us and my own family. I still say my rosary. I just can't leave my church. I can't help it.

[Shankapotomus]

6. Not only that but didn't dumbo's admin

set aside money for faith based initiatives (charities)? Religious institutions didn't seem to have any problem with tax money from secular tax payers going to their own activities and causes. But when it's a cause or activity they disagree with, they claim their freedom is being violated.

[Ecumenist]

8. Tell me about it. HYPOCRISY big time!!

[demosincebirth]

14. Don't paint with a wide brush as you seem to be doing.

[MrSlayer]

15. Devil's advocate.

ED pills help promote procreation while birth control pills only deny it. Therefore there is no hypocrisy.

[jberryhill]

16. It's simpler than that

Dick pills fix something that isn't working the way it normally works. Birth control prevents something from working the way it normally works.

Insurance companies used to make the distinction that way.

[Ecumenist]

23. Got news for you...BC ALSO helps something work that isn't working right.

I have endometriosis and the standard treatment is BC to regulate periods and hormones. Endometriosis is DEBILITATING whereas broke dicks aren't. Borke dicks don't cause Anaemia and cramping so severe that they can literally cause one to pass out. Sorry, doesn't work.

[jberryhill]

24. And I got news for you

Try actually reading stuff before making assumptions about people.

I said INSURANCE COMPANIES used to make that distinction. Understand that? Is that some news for you?

I am not an insurance company, and yes, they used to cover BC pills for unusual conditions even when they did.

[Ecumenist]

27. Got news for you, NO THEY DIDN'T. That is fairly recent because I had, (HAVE) endometriosis

and my insurance WOULD.NOT.PAY for my B.C., other than for Danazol and Lupron Depot. I know from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.

[joeglow3]

29. Catholic Church allows it for those cases

I know, because my worked for a Catholic hospital and they covered it (but would not just for birth control).

[Ecumenist]

30. How long have they paid because I'm in late 40's and I used the treatment well into my 40's

and my insurance NEVER paid for BC pills even though I never used them for Birth Control. By the way, I was treated through The Mercy Hospital system, (CATHOLIC)

[joeglow3]

32. This was about 8-10 years ago.

[treestar]

21. But isn't the Catholic Church also against fertility treatments?

I would have thought the standard was interfering with nature (God's will). In which case, nature did not intend men with erectile dysfunction to procreate.

[MountainLaurel]

26. Yep. n/t

[Major Hogwash]

18. Keep talking about Catholic nuts . . .

. . because it makes me giggle every time that I read it here at the DU.

[treestar]

20. Yeah, it's God's will that a man who cannot get an erection not procreate

So why aren't they on a crusade against Cialis and Viagra?

[madokie]

22. Hey keep your hands off my ED meds :-)

[tanyev]

25. You know, if we had universal healthcare no employers would have to pay

for any medical procedures they disapproved of.

[butterfly77]

28. Yeah...

religious freedom to molest children...