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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:32 PM May 2013

GOP Senators To Supreme Court: Curtail The President’s Recess Appointment Power

All 45 Republican senators co-signed an amicus brief filed Tuesday calling on the Supreme Court to curtail the President’s power to temporarily appoint nominees without the Senate’s approval.

“[R]ecess appointments have become a means to sidestep Senate confirmation,” the brief declared. “In any case, the President himself has made clear that he will resort to recess appointments, and indeed has done so, precisely to circumvent perceived Senate opposition.”

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/gop-brief-nlrb-recess-appointments.php?ref=fpa
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1) Does the SCOTUS have this power? (yeah yeah I know Bush V Gore ...)

2) Funny how they would have SCREAM bloodcy murder had the Dems done this during W's terms

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BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. The GOP are such SORE LOSERS. That's what this is. Where are the Democrats? Why are they silent?
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:10 PM
May 2013

Why aren't they outraged and why haven't they taken to the airwaves/cable/broadcast media?

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
3. And we Dems are such POOR WINNERS.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:44 PM
May 2013


I just wish I could look at the Dems and say they're winning BOTH the long game and the short game.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. I can't argue with that. Of course, that begs the question if the people who run as Dems
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:19 AM
May 2013

are really Dems? The way they vote and act once in office, it's as if they're Republicans in Dem clothing. It seems as if it's so hard for them to do the right thing for the people, but when it comes to aiding and abetting the Republicans and wealthy corporations, they can make up their mind in a heartbeat.

I was hoping to change that back in June of last year when Dianne Feinstein was primaried by Mike Strimling. I voted for him because I was tired of DiFi's conservaDemism, and I'd tried to spread the word on him, but in the end, he got less votes than Orly Taitz!

Change starts at the ballot box, putting the squeeze on Democrats who have forgotten how to be Democrats.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
8. Less than Orly - that's cruel.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:42 AM
May 2013

You're right about Dems who have forgotten how to be Dems.

It worries me to think that clear liberal, socially conscious thinking could become extinct, at some point having an insufficient number of practitioners to maintain a critical mass. Where's our Paul Simon, Paul Tsongas, McGovern, or Kennedy.

Even Carter - we can think all the namby pamby stuff but the only reason he's not considered one of the greats is because he did nothing to engorge the coffers of our military-industrial complex. It had to infuriate them to take 4 years off their grow projections. When will have another President who will leave office without sending some of our best and brightest into harm's way.

Instead of honoring the Bush Doctrine of premptive stike - how about we spend some more time with Carter's unwritten doctrine of "winning the peace".

chit - I don't know how I got off on this tangent (maybe a G&T too many) but my biggest fear isn't that we're not going to take back leadership in this country. It's that we won't remember what to do with it when we do. (Or that SCOTUS will have f'ed things up so much it won't matter...but that's a whole 'nother rant post)
 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
6. My union brethren told me the other day
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:28 AM
May 2013

The reason the GOP House recently voted to disband the National Labor Relations Board is because the President "illegally" appointed people to fill positions. He saw it on FOX news and this union member supports it.

This shortly after the NLRB ruled that the company we work for must resume the practice of deducting union dues from our paychecks. They stopped in the midst of our ongoing collective bargaining negotiations as a "strong arm" tactic. The board additionally ruled that the negotiations must resume during company hours and not during personal time as well. We have been working without a contract for the last three months.

There are many, many folks on DU Boards that vastly under estimate the influential power of FOX news. I always get some kind of a response that they "are not that influential".

I'll say it again.

The single greatest threat to our nation is FOX News. They heavily influence people to support an agenda that works directly against their own best interest. I see it all of the time.

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
9. There's a reason why every single film about 1930's Germany...
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:49 AM
May 2013

...has Goebbels as a main character.

Control the message and you will control the population.

FOX viewers are totally f'ing brainwashed. Pelosi's daughter did a film that was on Maher last year interviewing rural poor in the south (Alabama?). It was depressing to hear the guy with the trailer home talk about why he was voting republican. Because democrats were going to "redistribute his wealth". Damn - if we took everything that guy had and gave it to the two poorest people we could find...they'd still be the two poorest people in the country. This guy didn't have string to keep his screen door latch closed and he was obsessed with his "wealth" being redistributed.

That's what media control will do for ya.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
10. Let's see -- how did John Bolton become the United States' ambassador to the UN?
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:59 AM
May 2013

"Stating that Mr. Bolton had received support from "a majority of Senators", but had been "unfairly denied the up-or-down vote that he deserved" by the "delaying tactics of a few", Mr. Bush announced that the post had stood vacant for long enough during what he termed "a war", and that he was "exercising his constitutional authority" to make the appointment.

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The President can make an appointment without the approval of the Senate while the Congress is in recess, but the term of such a "recess appointment" expires at the end of the Congressional session. The next session begins January 3, 2007."

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bush_appoints_John_Bolton_United_States%27_ambassador_to_the_United_Nations

This despite the fact that the man was an anathema to many Democrats and even some Republicans.

"During confirmation hearings, Republican Senator George Voinovich described Bolton as "the poster child of what someone in the diplomatic corps should not be." Because of Voinovich's opposition, Bolton's nomination was sent to the floor of the Senate without a recommendation."

Bush* made 77 recess appointments.

Sam

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