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BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:39 PM Feb 2012

PPP Polls: New National Leader is Rick Santorum

Very interesting Stuff.

http://twitter.com/ppppolls

We put a national poll in the field today and pretty clear your new leader is Rick Santorum


Plus this little tidbit.

What's really scary for Romney is the numbers if Newt dropped out...Newt, by staying in, is all the sudden Mitt's BFF


So Santorum is leading now AND if Newt gets out, Romney is in serious trouble. Fun times.
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PPP Polls: New National Leader is Rick Santorum (Original Post) BrentWil Feb 2012 OP
It makes sense that Santorum would come from behind. smokey nj Feb 2012 #1
Oh Snap! WCGreen Feb 2012 #2
Poor Mitt. No one likes him. neverforget Feb 2012 #3
This has become a win-win-win for morningfog Feb 2012 #4
no way! Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #5
Santorum really scares me because NAO Feb 2012 #6
Chimpoleon never said ANYTHING during the '00 hifiguy Feb 2012 #17
On Twitter about 2 weeks ago Rupert Murdoch threw his support behind Santorum. Looks like the sheep FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #7
He solves their problem HockeyMom Feb 2012 #8
As a former Catholic woman, he terrifies me the most BrentWil Feb 2012 #10
"The Handmaid's Tale" is his blueprint for a better Amurika Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #20
Are we so sure Santorum would be an easier opponent pnwmom Feb 2012 #9
I decide long ago that I am too much a partisan Democrat karynnj Feb 2012 #13
Yes, the dog story gave one of the first hints about how uncaring Romney is. pnwmom Feb 2012 #14
I just posted a DU thread from 2006 where he blamed the 2 MA Senators for the priests abusing kids karynnj Feb 2012 #15
I bet Santorum still believes it and I almost hope this comes up again. pnwmom Feb 2012 #18
I agree Romney is a much easier candidate to pummel. NAO Feb 2012 #19
Oh, great. Now I have to look at those damn Santorum signs in my neighbor's yard even longer. progressoid Feb 2012 #11
He could win their nomination. He will certainly take the primaries in every southern state AlinPA Feb 2012 #12
If Newt doesn't do well in the south on super tuesday he may very well drop out WI_DEM Feb 2012 #16
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
4. This has become a win-win-win for
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:45 PM
Feb 2012

Obama and the Democratic Party. The Republicans can't decide which of their fools they hate most.

NAO

(3,425 posts)
6. Santorum really scares me because
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
Feb 2012

I am still smarting from 2004, when I was completely blindsided that GWB got so many votes. It should note even have been close.

After 2004, when a plurality of Americans voted for GWB, I don't have any faith in the sanity of the US electorate.

I can see Santorum as someone the right could get behind (hehe), unlike Romney who is a tepid "Anybody but Obama" candidate.

Also, the people who are attracted by Santorum will be impervious to all fact, arguments, attack ads, etc.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. Chimpoleon never said ANYTHING during the '00
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:01 PM
Feb 2012

primaries that was one-tenth as stupid as the things FrothyMix says in front of microphones every day. And there was no YouTube in '00 either.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
7. On Twitter about 2 weeks ago Rupert Murdoch threw his support behind Santorum. Looks like the sheep
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:55 PM
Feb 2012

have complied.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
8. He solves their problem
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:05 PM
Feb 2012

and unites the base. Not "liberal" like Romney, or have the baggage of Newt. Personnaly, of the 3 he scares me the most because he is the least qualified and the most blinded by his faith.

As a former Catholic woman, he terrifies me the most.

BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
10. As a former Catholic woman, he terrifies me the most
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:15 PM
Feb 2012

He will make 30 percent of America very happy... and scare the shit out of 50 to 60 percent

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
13. I decide long ago that I am too much a partisan Democrat
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:00 AM
Feb 2012

to really access which Republican can win. I breathed a sighed of relief when GWB with all his baggage and limited accomplishments beat McCain. I feared McCain because people I knew well, who were pretty liberal, thought he was the straight shooter the media routinely described him as - and many really did not like Gore, who they saw as a very conservative Democrat. 2000 was still close enough to the time when you could have a Democrat more conservative than a specific Republican.

Later after McCain lost, I remember a dinner with friends, where the most politically knowledgeable person, completely shocked those happily thinking McCain was ok by listing how conservative he was on issue after issue - other than the few where he was ok. He then spoke of how there were 5 countries Mccain thought needed regime change. My thought was "He's scarier than Bush" In fact, either way we lose. As it didn't happen, I don't know if McCain would have been an easier win - maybe with no cheating - or if the media actually made Bush more "charming". (I never saw said charm )

I think Romney has some REALLY big obvious negatives. I laughed years ago when my youngest said Romney could never win because he put the unfortunate Seamus on the roof of his car. Now, I think she is totally right. Just as Alexandra Kerry's story of Kerry caring enough that he rescued a drowning hamster made some nonpolitical people like him more, this does the opposite. It shows a pretty strange, uncaring person - who cared more for his luggage, which was in the car, than the dog.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. Yes, the dog story gave one of the first hints about how uncaring Romney is.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 02:15 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum doesn't come across as uncaring. He comes across as a populist with some extreme views on social issues. What effect would that combination have on voters in the general? Who knows?

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
15. I just posted a DU thread from 2006 where he blamed the 2 MA Senators for the priests abusing kids
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:08 PM
Feb 2012

because they fostered a liberal climate. Both attacked back - Kennedy blasting him on the floor of the Senate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4092037

The thread actually attacks but Romney and Santorum - and Santorum actually looks the worst.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. I bet Santorum still believes it and I almost hope this comes up again.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:52 PM
Feb 2012

Because the best answer to that today is to point to Ireland -- a bastion of religious conservatism with abuse problems that were at least as bad as everywhere else.

NAO

(3,425 posts)
19. I agree Romney is a much easier candidate to pummel.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum supporters are impervious to all facts and reason (otherwise they would not support Santorum). This means even a trillion dollars in a super-duper-attack-ad-pac, with 24/7 attack ads on all US TV, would just be money wasted.

I'm also far too partisan - and too bruised by 2004 - to make any accurate assessments about electability.

But am am very concerned, increasingly concerned about Santorum.

The religious fundies (there are LOTS of them) are really fired up about the contraception thing. For them it's about FREEDOM, not about contraception.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
12. He could win their nomination. He will certainly take the primaries in every southern state
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

plus TX, KS, OK, IN.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
16. If Newt doesn't do well in the south on super tuesday he may very well drop out
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

New poll out today has Santorum leading in TN with Newt in third.

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