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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:53 PM Feb 2012

Catholic Church ready to declare war on Obama

Responding to the Obama-mandated health insurance policies, Catholic leaders throughout America are outraged over what is being perceived by some as a serious assault on their religion. Under Obama’s health care plan, Catholic hospitals and universities will be required to offer free birth control to employees. While the law will not include entities with solely religious purposes, such as churches, it will extend to church-affiliated companies that do not exclusively support a religious-minded agenda.

Under the provision put forth last month by the president, health plans provided by Roman Catholic institutions that cover non-Catholics must front the cost of “all FDA approved contraceptives, including those that induce abortion.” Even if the policy is aimed at only a section of the church, Catholic leaders say Obama’s insurance plan is an attempt to take down the church by infiltrating it with God-less ideals on their religion, and according to some, they won’t go down without a fight.

Bill Donohue of the Catholic League says the move is a milestone in terms of taking on the Church, and tells CBS News that it is “unprecedented in American history …for the federal government to line up against the Roman Catholic Church.”
“This is going to be fought out with lawsuits, with court decisions and, dare I say it, maybe even in the streets,” adds Donohue.

http://rt.com/usa/news/catholic-church-war-obama-753/

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Catholic Church ready to declare war on Obama (Original Post) WI_DEM Feb 2012 OP
bring it, you stupid assholes. Whisp Feb 2012 #1
+1000! LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #2
But they already were at war with him get the red out Feb 2012 #3
I seriously question the headline. (Recognize its not yours, WI_.) elleng Feb 2012 #4
"Catholic leaders throughout America are outraged..." KansDem Feb 2012 #5
Like the Freeper "demonstrations" hifiguy Feb 2012 #6
And we know what both would be full of. n/t customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #14
The Roman Catholic Church is a city-state Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #7
lol! Good point though. Little Star Feb 2012 #11
WILL SOMEBODY IN THE MEDIA PLEASE ASK THIS CATHOLIC LEAGUE GUY.... K8-EEE Feb 2012 #8
Gee, what a surprise, a bunch of old men, the RCC hierarchy... Spazito Feb 2012 #9
Catholic Church shows once again why we reject it as a form of gov't Icicle Feb 2012 #10
Bravo! Well said. Auntie Bush Feb 2012 #22
Laughable gratuitous Feb 2012 #12
So the Catholic Church would rather have a Mormon be President? thelordofhell Feb 2012 #13
Don't confuse Catholics with fundies customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #15
Then they need to answer for their cover-up... tallahasseedem Feb 2012 #16
Damn right. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #24
Bill Donahue is a waste of space. Initech Feb 2012 #17
I agree Johonny Feb 2012 #23
Fuck the RCC. stopbush Feb 2012 #18
Of course EVERYONE in the Catholic hierarchies is.....MALE. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #19
Bill Donahue is well known as a blowhard. mmonk Feb 2012 #20
Hes a holier-than-thou Rush Limbaugh if such a thing existed. Initech Feb 2012 #21
Bring it you child molesting perverts! workinclasszero Feb 2012 #25
bring it MF'ers!! Locrian Feb 2012 #26
Bring it, fuckers. Iggo Feb 2012 #27
LOL. AngryOldDem Feb 2012 #31
Yawn. Arkana Feb 2012 #28
The child rapists and their protectors want to start a war over "morality"? Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #29
Yet, they have their OWN agenda as to what they want to see happen in the U.S. AngryOldDem Feb 2012 #30

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
3. But they already were at war with him
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:57 PM
Feb 2012

And all Democrats over the right to choose.

Bill Donohue is just always pissed off. So what?

elleng

(130,927 posts)
4. I seriously question the headline. (Recognize its not yours, WI_.)
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:58 PM
Feb 2012

I suspect its 'some' Catholic 'leaders,' and 'some' Catholics, but the 'Catholic Church' ready to declare war on President Obama??? REALLY?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. "Catholic leaders throughout America are outraged..."
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:02 PM
Feb 2012

"...over what is being perceived by some as a serious assault on their religion."

Too bad Catholic leaders throughout American weren't outraged over their priests' assault on boys, but one supposes if they all went to confession, then they're forgiven.

Nothing like a religion where you can murder someone on Saturday night, confess to the boy-raping priest on Sunday morning, and retain you place in God's kingdom.

Catholic leaders need to get over themselves...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Like the Freeper "demonstrations"
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:04 PM
Feb 2012

Donohue would have more porta-potties than people at his rallies. What an asshat.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
7. The Roman Catholic Church is a city-state
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

A government, they even issue passports.
They sound like terrorists to me.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
8. WILL SOMEBODY IN THE MEDIA PLEASE ASK THIS CATHOLIC LEAGUE GUY....
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:07 PM
Feb 2012

Why wasn't he all upside down with Romney since he did the same thing in Mass?? Is Romney also in on the WAR ON CATHOLICS??

I don't know about you guys but I think now that Little Ricky is calling Romney out on the contraceptives in Mass this issue and the"outrage" will start to go away....it's 1000% politically motivated.

Spazito

(50,349 posts)
9. Gee, what a surprise, a bunch of old men, the RCC hierarchy...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:16 PM
Feb 2012

trying to promulgate outrage in hopes of filling their coffers by 'declaring war on Obama' AND women, they have NEVER declared peace, they have always been 'at war' with the President, the Democrats AND women, imo.

Lay Catholics should be, and probably are, legitimately outraged at the RCC hierarchy for speaking falsely and saying they are speaking for Catholics as a whole.

Icicle

(121 posts)
10. Catholic Church shows once again why we reject it as a form of gov't
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:16 PM
Feb 2012

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;

Thomas Jefferson wrote that, in the Declaration of Independance.

The Catholic Church has the right to put forth "standards" for other Catholics, sure. But they have no right to force their beliefs on non-Catholics. And even their "standards" are not laws, just "standards"..... and from what I understand, 97% of Catholic women use birth control anyway.
Bill Donohue would do well to remember that the government, of, by, and for the people is US. And also to remember that one of the top reasons that immigrants came to this wonderful country of ours was to get out from under the jackboot heel of tyrannical governments and churches in other countries. One of the reasons our country came into being is because we took on "the church." It's part of who we are. It's not "unprecedented in American history" as he would claim. Quite the contrary. It IS American history.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Laughable
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

Bill Donohue, in his continuing fruitless search for relevance, once again rears up on his hind legs to predict a fight that won't happen. Not one Catholic hospital, not one Catholic university, not one Catholic church will be "required to offer free birth control to employees." That is absolutely, categorically not true, and as I recall, one of the Big Ten is supposed to address the subject of lying. God's apparently against it.

So, is Donohue lying, totally mistaken, or just a crank who gets an inordinate amount of attention from the popular media for his delusional pronouncements? In any case, the popular media would be serving the public much better by simply ignoring this hateful old man.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. Don't confuse Catholics with fundies
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:00 PM
Feb 2012

Catholics don't feel nearly as threatened by the Mormon church as the evangelicals do. In fact, many older Catholics remember the fundie prejudice against JFK, and see the same sack of excrement being hurled at Romney, and they're disgusted by it.

If Romney is the Rethug nominee, he will get a good number of Catholic votes.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
16. Then they need to answer for their cover-up...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:03 PM
Feb 2012

of raping small boys.

If they want a fight, we'll take it.

Just another reason why I'm glad I left the church.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
17. Bill Donahue is a waste of space.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:05 PM
Feb 2012

How can any sane Catholic say he speaks for them? He's the guy who proclaimed Hollywood is run by secular Jews and loves anal sex.

Time to take away their tax exempt status - not only has the church become a shadow of it's former self, the crazy fundamentalists and loons have taken over and turned it into a shadowy political group hell bent on dominant control over women.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
23. I agree
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:27 PM
Feb 2012

This whole "Catholic leaders "is highly offensive. Polls show Catholics are not out of main stream America in their use and desire for said coverage. These people are leaders of virtually no one, yet some how the media acts like they are speaking for all Catholics. The media's and certain politicians elevation of these people is more offensive to this said Catholic than a Catholic hospital being forced to follow government regulations like every other hospital. If treating a Catholic hospital like every other one is offensive then these people don't understand offensive.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
18. Fuck the RCC.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:31 PM
Feb 2012

A bunch of bishops and cardinals - all MALE, by the way! - are trying to influence health care for women - a gender that NONE of those bishops or cardinals has ever had sex with, BTW - by denying them contraception which is the best way for women to plan the size of their families - which is something none of these bishops and cardinals have ever had or will ever have, along with never having the responsibility of planning and providing for a family.

In what sense are these bishops and cardinals QUALIFIED to pontificate on an issue of womens health and labor law? Through the make believe they call religion? Their little patriarchal, misogynistic political organization called the RCC?

Fuck them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. Bring it you child molesting perverts!
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

I would LOVE to see the roman catholic church answer for its heinous crimes against thousands of innocent children in a court of law!

And also the massive on going cover up of those crimes!

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
26. bring it MF'ers!!
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:11 PM
Feb 2012

• Virtually all women (more than 99%) aged 15–44 who have ever had sexual intercourse have used at least one contraceptive method.[2]

• Overall, 62% of the 62 million women aged 15–44 are currently using a method.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
29. The child rapists and their protectors want to start a war over "morality"?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:20 PM
Feb 2012

Really? The perverts really want to go there? Who are you going to enlist? Jerry Sandusky?

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
30. Yet, they have their OWN agenda as to what they want to see happen in the U.S.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 06:41 AM
Feb 2012

They make no bones about it:

-- No abortions whatsoever.

-- No access to birth control.

-- No possibility of extending basic civil rights to gays....

There's most likely more regressive thinking that I'm missing.

So now THEY'RE crying foul, when what THEY want to do is a bazillion times worse than a simple health insurance mandate??? Give me a break.

I just heard that the Catholic TV network EWTN (which would have us return to the Dark Ages, if it had its way) is now going to sue the Obama administration over this -- this, from an organization that pleads poverty every time you turn around. I hope they will -- perhaps that will send them into permanent bankruptcy.

I am literally sick to death of the Roman Catholic Church. This "persecution" schtick wore out a long time ago. The only possible good thing I can see coming from this that maybe those Catholics who do use birth control and who do get their prescriptions filled through health insurance (which, I understand, is not an insignificant number) will speak up and tell this antiquated group of old men to shove it.




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