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We are a Barbaric Country-- should we kill her or not? (Original Post) trumad May 2013 OP
I have to say I never heard of this case til last week. Zimmy should be found guilty to the max. graham4anything May 2013 #1
Yes, she would. She's a sociopath. She lacks a conscience and has no remorse. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #7
So John Lennon's murder was a random act? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #23
His first choice was Johnny Carson, and he had a few other choices that he wanted before. graham4anything May 2013 #24
So it wasn't a random act? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #26
I have no idea what angle you are playing, but I don't play NRA circular arguments. Have a beautiful graham4anything May 2013 #27
"...not person specific, much like the killer of Lennon." cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #33
"His first choice was Johnny Carson, and he had a few other choices that he wanted before." cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #34
I swear that poster is a parody. Like an snl skit. n/t Inkfreak May 2013 #40
We are five minutes until snuff reality shows appear. nt onehandle May 2013 #2
She's barbaric. HappyMe May 2013 #3
Yep. Sissyk May 2013 #21
I saw some of it. HappyMe May 2013 #25
I guess the state's lucky to have gotten Murder One Union Scribe May 2013 #35
Can we sentence her to be ignored and then forgotten? nt geek tragedy May 2013 #4
Believe it or not, Sissyk May 2013 #22
I suspect that remorse is something Skidmore May 2013 #41
Actually, Sissyk May 2013 #42
Ditto. nt clarice May 2013 #32
That's sick, in a Roman Colosseum way. marmar May 2013 #5
Hardly, those were simply old fashioned reality shows. Katashi_itto May 2013 #11
it is the 3-minute hate, for real. only it's like the 5-hour hate, every day, on & on. HiPointDem May 2013 #6
Lock her in a room with Nancy Grace. Either Arias or the Flaring Nostrils of Death ... 11 Bravo May 2013 #8
+1 progressoid May 2013 #20
No. H2O Man May 2013 #9
I thought AZ's court rules were intriguing Union Scribe May 2013 #36
Simple. I oppose the death penalty absolutely. MineralMan May 2013 #10
Me too. tblue May 2013 #28
I oppose the DP Bake May 2013 #12
Agreed we shouldn't even have the death penalty! gopiscrap May 2013 #13
No to capital punishment. nt ladjf May 2013 #14
More than ever, we are a celebrity culture. She is a CelebroPunk™. Ergo...nt Eleanors38 May 2013 #15
Generally no, but she has said she doesn't want to live so... randome May 2013 #16
Do we really want to the state to act as an agent of retribution? MindPilot May 2013 #17
Not. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #18
If legal killings were televised, it would be the highest rated show Rex May 2013 #19
Rome's barbarity gave birth to Catholicism, closeupready May 2013 #29
Only if she doesn't drown. leveymg May 2013 #30
Build a bridge out of her. deaniac21 May 2013 #31
O'er the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave! davidn3600 May 2013 #37
Who? GeorgeGist May 2013 #38
No she should not be murdered by the state but sadly she mostly likely will YeahSureRight May 2013 #39
People are obsessed with it. Avalux May 2013 #43
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. I have to say I never heard of this case til last week. Zimmy should be found guilty to the max.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:08 AM
May 2013

Don't know this case, so cannot comment on what sentence.

Important question would be-
would she do this again?

Zimmy would do the same thing again, as it was not person specific, much like the killer of Lennon.
That has to be taken into thinking whether life or not.

(regardless of the charges being death or life or whatever.)

So, would she do this again if released? Would she be a threat in jail to others?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
27. I have no idea what angle you are playing, but I don't play NRA circular arguments. Have a beautiful
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:17 PM
May 2013

but very chilly (upper 40s, lower 50s NJ afternoon, on this glorious weekend, where the NJ shore is back in business
after Hurricane Sandy, though nobody much will be in the water today, Monday looks glorious

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
34. "His first choice was Johnny Carson, and he had a few other choices that he wanted before."
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:28 PM
May 2013

Best abdication I've ever seen here.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
3. She's barbaric.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:13 AM
May 2013

I'm sick of her lying, manipulative ass. At this point, I really don't care. As long as she's never free again.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
21. Yep.
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:02 PM
May 2013

Did you see the interview with the Jury Foreman this morning? He said he believed Travis was verbally abusive???? I'm like WTF! She manipulated the jury just like Juan told them she would.

One thing though; she can't get rid of that First Degree Murder Conviction during this retrial of the penalty phase. Plus, no more interviews.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
22. Believe it or not,
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:04 PM
May 2013

I think that would be the absolute worst punishment for her. Life in prison with no chance of parole. No interviews, tv, pcs. 23 hours per day all alone in her cell.

Maybe then, she can start to feel sorry for what she did.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
41. I suspect that remorse is something
Sat May 25, 2013, 08:23 AM
May 2013

she is incapable of feeling in any circumstance. If you listen to her carefully you will note that the only person she is able to show concern about is herself.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
6. it is the 3-minute hate, for real. only it's like the 5-hour hate, every day, on & on.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:20 AM
May 2013

the obsession with arias is pathological.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
8. Lock her in a room with Nancy Grace. Either Arias or the Flaring Nostrils of Death ...
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:42 AM
May 2013

won't emerge from that room in one piece. I would consider either result a net plus for society.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
9. No.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:44 AM
May 2013

I think that the case is interesting. Thus, I have followed it on HLN and TruTV.

The case includes numerous issues that I think are worthy of our attention. These include: the court process -- things such as the rules that determine what evidence may be introduced or excluded from the trial; how "domestic violence" is not exclusively male on female; how "expert witnesses" are often prostitutes; and the issues involving "mental health" -- including the differences between major mental illnesses, personality disorders, and sociopathy.

I agreed with the jury that the prosecution proved its case in both of the first two phases of the trial. Thus, if I believed in the death penalty, Jodi Arias would be an ideal candidate. But I do not believe that the state has the right -- or, even if it does, should ever exercise the right to kill human beings. I do respect the right of others to hold opposing views.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
36. I thought AZ's court rules were intriguing
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:30 PM
May 2013

especially the jury asking witnesses questions. I wish they were allowed to do that everywhere.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Simple. I oppose the death penalty absolutely.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:46 AM
May 2013

The government should not be in the business of executing criminals. Period.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
28. Me too.
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:20 PM
May 2013

Doesn't matter who it is. (I sometimes feel I could wring a person's neck for some heinous crime against a child or an animal, but I never would do it.) I don't want state-sponsored executions either.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Generally no, but she has said she doesn't want to live so...
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:29 AM
May 2013


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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
17. Do we really want to the state to act as an agent of retribution?
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

I'd like to think that as a culture we are advancing beyond that kind of barbarism, but the level of blood-lust is disturbing. It is especially disturbing to see so much of it on DU.

They might as well be shouting "burn the witch!"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. If legal killings were televised, it would be the highest rated show
Fri May 24, 2013, 12:09 PM
May 2013

on TVEE. Forever. People love bloodlust.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
29. Rome's barbarity gave birth to Catholicism,
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:23 PM
May 2013

which at least - in terms of dogma - rejects capital punishment in almost every single case.

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
39. No she should not be murdered by the state but sadly she mostly likely will
Sat May 25, 2013, 07:29 AM
May 2013

and millions will cheer the state on for murdering one of its citizens.

Hopefully within my lifetime America will no longer have the largest prison system in the world and the state will no longer murder its citizens.

I am not holding my breath with America being a Christian nation and all state sanctioned murder is well right popular with the majority of the blood thirsty population!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
43. People are obsessed with it.
Sat May 25, 2013, 11:53 AM
May 2013

Arias is quite a character, and at every opportunity has given the media fodder to use. They love her.

Best punishment - isolation with no further opportunity to be heard. She wants to do "good works" while in prison but only to make headlines and feed her massive, psychopathic ego.

Being forced to live out the rest of her life on permanent 'ignore' is what she deserves.

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