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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:27 PM May 2013

One less Douchebag on the planet.

Notre Dame suicide: Activist shoots himself to protest same-sex marriage.

French far-right activist Dominique Venner kills himself at Notre Dame cathedral altar, after same-sex marriage law came into effect in France.

PARIS — A 78-year-old French far-right activist committed suicide at the altar of the Notre Dame cathedral on Tuesday by shooting himself in the mouth, three days after a law legalizing same-sex marriage came into effect.
Police evacuated the cathedral, one of Paris’ biggest tourist draws, after Dominique Venner — a historian known for his hard-right political essays and a fierce opponent of gay marriage — shot himself, sending tourists fleeing in panic.
Venner made no declaration as he shot himself around mid-afternoon, a police source said. He carried a letter on his person, but its contents were not released to the media.
A May 21 entry on his blog page appealed to readers to join a march planned for Sunday against the Socialist government’s gay-marriage law, which came into force at the weekend.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/05/21/notre_dame_cathedral_in_paris_evacuated_after_suicide_inside_landmark_church.html

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One less Douchebag on the planet. (Original Post) trumad May 2013 OP
Wow. CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #1
If his beliefs are true RudynJack May 2013 #4
That's right! I'd forgotten that little fact. CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #7
I believe suicide is even more against Catholic doctrine than gay marriage. hobbit709 May 2013 #2
Is there a scale of sin in Catholicism? Serious question. morningfog May 2013 #15
Yes. There is no remission for suicide. REP May 2013 #16
Well, that seems redundant. How many Hail Mary's can you give when you are dead? morningfog May 2013 #22
That word does not mean what you think it does REP May 2013 #26
Yes, there is. There are venial sins and there are mortal sins: WinkyDink May 2013 #23
Well that's productive. MrSlayer May 2013 #3
It seems to depend on the method. Self-immolation always seems to send a heavy message. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #17
Buddhist monks will disagree with you. WinkyDink May 2013 #24
I find them to be ridiculous as well. MrSlayer May 2013 #33
I don't think he'll be protesting much any more. lpbk2713 May 2013 #5
If this surrender monkey had been a proud Amur'can, he'da taken out 20-30 bystanders... VOX May 2013 #6
He'll certainly go to heaven now!!! jpak May 2013 #8
Not after committing a mortal sin and without Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation REP May 2013 #19
Geebus... And in Notre Dame? (one can be totally non-religious and still find that place hlthe2b May 2013 #9
He'll be remembered as St. Inequality Blue Owl May 2013 #10
Rest in Pieces, shitstain. 11 Bravo May 2013 #11
Celebrating anyone's suicide sucks, Trumad. MineralMan May 2013 #12
hall monitoring again? trumad May 2013 #14
Zing!!! Old habits die hard. Hassin Bin Sober May 2013 #18
Nope. Posting my opinion again. MineralMan May 2013 #20
your hypocrisy knows no bounds. trumad May 2013 #25
if not celebrating, how about just not caring ? JI7 May 2013 #27
I do not know him. MineralMan May 2013 #28
I thought grave-dancing was against the TOS here ... Bake May 2013 #29
I would not defend him either. MineralMan May 2013 #31
And I agree. Bake May 2013 #32
I won't celebrate his death but I won't care, either. Shrike47 May 2013 #13
I'm guessing he had more problems than simple bigotry. Brickbat May 2013 #21
From the looks of it, I think you're right. nt bluestate10 May 2013 #30

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,660 posts)
1. Wow.
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
May 2013

Since he had no peace here on earth, I hope he has it now, wherever he is.



I agree with your assessment, BTW.

REP

(21,691 posts)
26. That word does not mean what you think it does
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:39 PM
May 2013

It is the most mortal of sins precisely because no Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation can be performed.

Redundant means superfluous, btw. HTH, HAND

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
33. I find them to be ridiculous as well.
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:59 PM
May 2013

What good ever came from that? Or from Bobby Sands or any suicider?

Ngo Dinh Diem wasn't killed on behalf of burning monks. Bobby Sands lost his battle and this French moron accomplished nothing.

I maintain my position that protest suicide is non-productive at best.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. If this surrender monkey had been a proud Amur'can, he'da taken out 20-30 bystanders...
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:35 PM
May 2013

before turning his precious weapon on himself.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
9. Geebus... And in Notre Dame? (one can be totally non-religious and still find that place
Tue May 21, 2013, 07:13 PM
May 2013

remarkable).

What a waste of human potential to go out with that much hate...

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
20. Nope. Posting my opinion again.
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:35 PM
May 2013

Yes, he was an ugly man with ugly ideas. Despite that, marriage equality is the law in France. It ts the law in Minnesota, too, thanks to the help of many. None of them would celebrate an opponent's suicide. None that I know, anyhow, Go look at the first link in my signature line.

I celebrate the suicide of no person. Anyone can change, as long as they live. That is my opinion.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
27. if not celebrating, how about just not caring ?
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:39 PM
May 2013

i find it hard to feel any kind of sympathy for this guy.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
28. I do not know him.
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:42 PM
May 2013

I would not have known of his suicide. Suicide is not something to celebrate, imo.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
29. I thought grave-dancing was against the TOS here ...
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:53 PM
May 2013

I wouldn't defend the decedent for an instant. But I agree, suicide is nothing to celebrate.

Bake

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
31. I would not defend him either.
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:56 PM
May 2013

I did not. I just do not think celebrating a suicide is a good thing, and said so.

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