Jodi Arias is about to give a statement

[gopiscrap]

should she get life or death?

11 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Death
	3 (27%)
	Life with possibility of parole
	1 (9%)
	Life with out possibility of parole
	6 (55%)
	lesser sentance
	1 (9%)
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[Buzz Clik]

1. Free Jodi!

Sorry, not familiar with the case.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Under what bed or rock are you?

(Just kidding)

Horrific murder case. Thankfully it did not become a...take over the media case.

There are mentions at high points.

[Tx4obama]

7. See Comment #6

[Buzz Clik]

13. Yuck. BURN JODI!

[cynatnite]

2. I don't get why this is worthy of so much attention. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. It could be far worst

And thankfully it has not

[Skittles]

87. should just be a local matter

I don't get it either

[bigwillq]

96. Me neither

I hadn't heard of this woman up until a few days ago.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

101. It is a fascinating mystery - and many of us, and people in the press LOVE a good

mystery. Might be the left brain ?? the interest in things mysterious? Love of puzzles? Analytics?

[HappyMe]

5. I have changed my mind.

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She didn't just murder that guy, she slaughtered him.

I saw a little of her statement. Still just as arrogant and manipulative as ever, and really didn't seem at all sorry.

[Tx4obama]

6. Aprox 30 stabs wounds, throat slashed ear to ear, and a gun shot to the head

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THAT is what she did to Travis Alexander.
Perhaps some folks not familiar with the case are unaware of the brutality of the murder.

She deserves the death penalty so that she does not have the opportunity to have a 'life' in prison, so that she won't be able to visit with her family any longer (like Travis' family can not see him ever again), so that she will not be able to participate in any prison programs/events such as: the singing contests, her desire to create a prison recycling program, her desire to teach other prisoners English, etc.

She should not have the opportunity to do anything that gives her any pleasure at all and the only way to insure that is the death penalty.

Just my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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Note: If the jurors decide not to sentence Arias to death, Stephens will either sentence her to life in prison without parole or life in prison with the eligibility for parole after 25 years.

[Daniel537]

8. +1

The piece of shit wouldn't even say "I'm sorry" for her act of barbarism, which is the fucking least one would expect a murderer to do when being sentenced. I have zero sympathy for people who commit murder, especially when its planned in advance. No amount of teaching prisoners to read can change the amount of damage she has caused.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. my opinion is life

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Is justice I do not believe in the DP.for anybody

It's a moral thing

[sabrina 1]

47. The DP is barbaric and serves no purpose other than the state doing exactly what they are

judging her for. We are the only so-called civilized country in the world that still practices this barbaric, medieval evil.

She is a murderer, we don't have to join her. The DP is state sanctioned murder.

I completely agree with you and it it is instructive to witness so-called progressives join what is normally a right wing lust for vengeance when put to the test.

We join a very few barbaric nations who still engage in state sanctioned murder. Saudi Arabia being the closest. Even in dictatorships where the DP is still the law, they rarely use it.

Thanks for standing up for progressive, more enlightened policies.

She should get life without any possibility of parole. She committed a heinous, cold blooded act and should never see the light of day again.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. you had me 100% until the last two lines. nt

[hay rick]

86. Life without possibility of parole.

Denying the possibility of parole is the same as denying the possibility of rehabilitation. Guess I'm just another bleeding heart Yankees fan. Go evil empire!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

100. I love you hay rick

[Laura PourMeADrink]

58. DEFINITELY agree with you NB. And I am so sick of this mob mentality in this trial and

in the Casey Anthony deal - crowds of people so full of hate screaming to kill them. It reminds me of what roman gladiator crowds must have been like

[gopiscrap]

65. I fully agree with you

and the fucking media and rednecks and capitalists encourage that to cash in on a buck!!!

[gopiscrap]

64. I fully agree!

[cliffordu]

79. No, it's an opinion thing.

Morals have nothing to do with it.

[HappyMe]

10. You make a good point.

I will have to think on this a bit more.

[Chan790]

39. While I respect your right to such an opinion, I disagree for what may seem like an odd reason.

I actually think life-without-parole is a harsher sentence. I think one has to take an agnostic view of what awaits on the other side when assessing that difference, regardless of what one's religious beliefs are...because we do not know.

Death row is unpleasant, maximum-security and above-maximum (The so-called federal Supermax and some states have equivalents) holding is just as much so. Imagine being confined to a miserable, unclean, lonely, uncomfortable, brutal place (and prison to some real extent regardless of best-efforts will always be those things) where you have minimal to non-existent autonomy. Once in a while, your family can come visit but that's not comfort for you...it's brief, so highly-restricted as to feel incomplete, and infrequent enough that when it occurs it does little but remind you of what has been taken away from you...by you. Not by a jury, not by the judge or your victim(s)...you. You did this to you. You have nothing to do with all that time but dwell on what you have done...nobody as dangerous as you will ever be allowed work-release at-all or a prison-job that is not highly restricted and monitored. Now imagine having to face 20, 30, 40, 50+ years of that. The next time the sun will shine on your face outside a prison wall...you'll be dead. No reprieve. No hope. Just waiting for death...followed by death. It's pretty bleak.

Now imagine execution. Imagine there is nothing on the other side. It's just the cessation of life. You have ceased to be. You get to avoid all of that time in prison. Doesn't it feel like that just might be a reprieve? A blessing? A small kindness? The lifting of a curse or weight upon you?

Time. Time is the real Hell.

There's a reason why the suicide rate for people facing life-without-parole or capital-punishment is more than twice that for other inmates...and the rate for inmates is higher than the rest of the population.

[Tx4obama]

40. Good points, but even if she gets the death penalty she will be sitting on death row 20+ years...

before the execution would take place.

Sitting there for 20+ years knowing you will be put to death is nothing to sneeze at.

So, it's a bit of both worlds.

[sabrina 1]

49. It has been judged unconstitutional to use inhumane punishments such as you describe. The country

is finally moving away from this barbaric practice with many states, thankfully, ending it. 'Cruel and unusual punishment' is against our so-called ideals. Revenge is not the basis for an enlightened judicial system. Justice is the goal. It probably feels good to seek revenge, but it is so harmful to a civilized society to practice state sanctioned murder as a means of revenge, rather than the more civilized practice of ensuring that justice is done as is the case in every other civilized country on the planet.

She is an evil, dangerous threat to society and should never get out of prison. Maybe over time she can make some kind of contribution to society in prison. Other heinous criminals have been redeemed and done some good behind bars. State murder is no different than what she is guilty of, in fact it's worse, since the state is supposed to be seeking justice, not revenge.

It doesn't feel good to know that we and Saudi Arabia are among the few countries still using this barbaric, medieval practice. I am however encouraged by the drop in support for the DP over the past number of years.

[Uzair]

48. I can't believe what I'm reading

Your opinion is nothing more that emotional hogwash. Stop for a second and actually use some reason. No wonder the death penalty still survives to this day, because of this kind of ass backwards "thinking".

For the record, what she did is irrelevant, believe it or not. Your entire reply reeks of bloodlust and vengeance, not justice.

[sabrina 1]

50. Thank you. I can't believe what I'm reading here either. Well, yes, in some ways I am not surprised

and it shows how much work we have to do to get this country to move forward to a more enlightened era and join the rest of the civilized world where the DP is not an option.

I am happy to see that there are still progressives in the Dem Party though, the past couple of years has been extremely revealing.

[gopiscrap]

66. You are absolutely right imho!

[Aerows]

51. Maybe I'm naive

but i don't give a damn what happens to her. I really don't. Our justice system tried her, found her guilty, and she committed a horrific crime.

I don't give a damn what happens to her at this point. Lethal injection, electrocution, I don't really care after what she has done.

[csziggy]

57. She asked for death because she didn't want to live in a box for the rest of her life

I think locking her up for the rest of her life with no chance of parole is a fitting punishment. She certainly should never be allowed out.

[backscatter712]

60. Well, at least she's thorough.

We wouldn't want a half-assed murder, would we?

Sounds like she's gonna be the inspiration for a new generation of horror writers!

[southerncrone]

85. If allowed to be among other people

she will manipulate her way right out of prison. She has a lot of practice in stalking & sneaking in & out of places. She would find that "doggie door" out of prison. Her entire adult life has been about manipulating others to get her way. When things don't go her way, she pulls outrageous stunts, finally culminating in this horrific crime. She has already begun a plan to escape IMHO. Society CANNOT afford for her to be among us again....no one would be safe. The greatest punishment for her is to place her in isolation. Forcing her to spend time with herself will be her worst punishment. Death penalty is the only thing that will ensure this.

[closeupready]

11. Jodi Arias is nothing to me. The state should never have the option

to kill people. (With obvious exceptions, like wartime or in situations where the public would be at risk.)

Give her life, with or without parole. If they are going to give her option of parole, make it apply to her just as it does to any other murderer.

[gopiscrap]

67. Yup I agree with you!

[CakeGrrl]

12. Since when do convicted murderers get access to a mic?

[Tx4obama]

14. She made her final statement to the jury today in court.

Next up (after lunch) will be the defense and prosecutor's closing statements, then the jury goes into deliberations to decide 'life' or 'death'.

[CakeGrrl]

15. Ah, part of the court proceeding.

I thought someone allowed her to make yet another comment to the press.

[Tx4obama]

16. Last week the Judge issued an ordere that Jodi cannot do any more press interviews.

But I don't know about what can happen 'after' the trial is over.

I know that down in Florida when Aileen Wuornos was on death row she did a few taped interviews with a reporter.

[Tx4obama]

54. Breaking: Judge has just now lifted ban on Jodi Arias doing TV interviews

And she is apparently going to do multiple interviews.

Could happen sometime after the next two hours.

[ChazII]

83. She spoke to our local NBC affiliate on the 10 pm news. n/t

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

17. Life without parole

As horrific as her crime, it doesn't rise to the level of the DP.

Just watching her performance today(forced to watch in a restaurant where I was eating), you can tell she is a grade A narcissistic sociopath who loves the spotlight.

[MNBrewer]

18. Who is Jodi Arias?

[Tx4obama]

19. Jodi stabbed ex-boyfriend almost 30 times, slashed his throat ear to ear, then shot him in head

Then she got up on the witness stand and lied about all sorts of things dragging Travis' reputation through the mud.

Jodi is a lying, narcissistic, monster that committed per-meditated murder because she could not handle the fact that Travis was not going to marry her and that he was planning on taking a new girlfriend on a trip to Cancun (which would have happened the next day if she had not murdered him)

[MNBrewer]

20. Well, THAT wasn't very nice!

[Uzair]

21. Interesting how few liberals there are in here

Only 8?

The only option is life with possibility of parole. The other two are conservative bullshit.

[HappyMe]

22. Being judgemental and

thinking you are the only one that is right is conservative bullshit too.


edit to add - I noticed you did not vote for any of the options.

[Daniel537]

23. Since when does being liberal mean you have to support the release of murderers?

[Tx4obama]

37. +100 n/t

[sabrina 1]

72. Did you actually read what the discussion is about?

Since when does being opposed to a barbaric practice worthy only of the most oppressive, regressive dictatorships in the world, and long ago abandoned by every civilized nation in the world, equal 'support for the release of murderers'? Have you ever heard of prison?

[Tx4obama]

25. My guess is that you did not watch the whole trial or see/listen to the pain the Alexander family...

... is experiencing.

If someone in YOUR family was stabbed 30 times, had their throat slashed ear to ear, then shot in the head, left in the bathroom for several days before the body is found due to a premeditated murder, and then dragged through the mud by the murderer telling lies in court - you would want that person to live, breathe, and have opportunities to have any enjoyment at all?

[Spider Jerusalem]

44. There's a difference between justice and vengeance

and the wishes of the victim's family don't really have any bearing on either the operation of the law or the execution of sentence. Nor should they, in a civilised society.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

104. +1000

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

36. Why not "Free Jodi"?

I'm surprised you didn't push for that.

[Aerows]

53. Liberals don't like it when people are killed in cold blood

They are like Independents, conservatives and normal people that way.

[Bake]

62. I gotta go with life without possibility of parole EVER.

And it'd be a nice extra if they'd specifiy SOLITARY confinement, no interviews, etc., so she can't find one iota of the spotlight she craves, no matter how teensy weensy.

Bake

[closeupready]

74. If you mean, liberals believe in rehabilitation, I agree.

Sometimes, of course, maybe most times?, rehabilitation fails. In those cases naturally, prisoners can not be released.

It is a sad fact that some people on DU wish death, prison rape, etc. on convicted prisoners - basically, eschewing the principles that underpin opposition to cruel and unusual punishment. Note that one can agree with punishing criminals, but a principled liberal opposes cruelty, and 'unusual' punishments (by which I think was meant 'arbitrary', i.e., extraordinary punishments not for the crime but because the criminal is especially hated).

The risk you run in feeding this kind of group hysteria is the same risk we run in compromising our values in other ways: we become less of a constitutional democracy, and more of an authoritarian state, flirting with fascism (fascism in the textbook sense, not trying to be inflammatory or outrageous there).

[richmwill]

78. Aww- Give her a hug and send her on her way, right?

I'm sure she's really sorry about it. Maybe we can play a song for her as we free her. "Come on, people now- Smile on your brother..." as we hold her hand to let her know that we love and support her and that she really is a good person. Is that what you want? Wow...

[hlthe2b]

24. I would add that she should NEVER be allowed to profit in any way from her crime...

nor to continue to publicize her lies in any way.

[bettyellen]

26. his family already has a civil suit in the works because she has been selling lots of paintings

ridiculous paintings that were traced from ads or other artworks.

[Sissyk]

30. His family.

His family has filed a civil suit.

[bettyellen]

31. oh yes, I will correct it. thanks SissyK!

[Sissyk]

32. You're welcome! Nt

[JI7]

76. i hear she also has some zimmerman type fund set up for people to donate

[Tx4obama]

34. The civil lawsuit is necessary because ...

(if there are any loopholes in the current law regarding her not to be able to profit) if Travis' family wins the civil suit then any money that Jodi makes would have to go to the Travis Alexander family.

Seems like someone should fix the loophole.

[get the red out]

27. Surely this isn't the only trial in the country

I still don't get why this one is more important that all the rest that are surely going on right now?

[bettyellen]

35. because she is the smuggest lying liar sociopath and the crime was quite brutal to boot.

So, it made for some interesting TV. Also, they allow questions from the jurors, which is pretty cool.

[pinboy3niner]

41. It's a fascinating case

Not so much that I wanted to spend time following all the court livestreaming, but I followed the media reports of the highlights with interest.

OT, re: juror questions--My brother once sat on a jury that was allowed to submit questions. The jury was ready to convict until the judge asked a police officer the question my brother submitted. The officer backed off his earlier testimony and the jury voted to acquit. My brother had seen the cops creating a false impression about the evidence and believed the minority defendant was being set up. He saw a weakness in the case where the public defender failed to zero in on cross--so he did in the question he submitted to the judge.

[bettyellen]

43. I can't remember exactly the details, but the jurors came up with some good points.... they also

pretty much ridiculed the defense attorneys and witnesses by poking holes in some of their sillier or more OT points. You're brother did a great thing! Too many civil defense attorneys get jaded and lazy.

[JI7]

28. life in prison, and i can't wait for this thing to be over

i tuned in to the news today before leaving for work and wanted to see the latest on oklahoma but instead they were showing her giving some speech .

[Tx4obama]

33. Her 'speech' was her final statement to the jury. Now the attorneys are doing closing statements

then the jury will go into deliberations to decide death or not.
If 'not death' then the Judge will be the one to decide life in prison without parole,
or life in prison with possibility of parole after 25 years.

[Sissyk]

29. I'm not sure I could vote for death.

However, I don't see how anyone could want that woman on the street ever again. Ever!

She didn't just kill him. She wanted to see him suffer.

[mgcgulfcoast]

38. she should get a suspended sentence

and probation. i feel bad for her

[alphafemale]

42. Only if she dates someone you care about.

Maybe you'll have to ID his slaughtered corpse from a morgue drawer.

Jodi does not deserve a single moment of happiness.

Ever.

[pinboy3niner]

88. If she were to get out...

...her profile on Christian Mingles should definitely be flagged.

[BainsBane]

90. DUzy

Too macabre of a subject to win, but I'll still offer the nomination.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. Me too. Think he used her to the hilt. But - this happens to millions

of people, both men and women, and they don't kill the person doing it.

I have a real problem understanding the psyche of people who commit horrible crimes. I just feel that some day, scientists will uncover what part of the brain is malfunctioning that causes people to do what they do and they figure out how to fix it. And the world then will look back in horror on the people who enslaved and killed criminals.

[bettyellen]

81. you know they had only a short lived period of dating and then she followed him around and started

sneaking into his house and peeping in his windows, stalking him for about a year before it finally got through her skull that she was not going to get back with him? And that it was not only planned, but so very brutal it was doubtless premeditated? What makes you want this completely remorseless sociopath unleashed and dating again?

[alphafemale]

89. She invented the stories about the physical abuse after she invented the story about the Ninjas.

It was the Ninjas that killed him.

She invented the story about the Ninjas after she swore she was no where near his house.

She never imagined the police would be able to recover the pictures from the camera she threw in the washing machine.

[BainsBane]

91. We've all had boyfriends who weren't great to us

but we don't kill them. His using her does not mitigate her culpability for murder.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

99. well, to me, it certainly was enough to reduce it all to a manslaughter conviction. But, just my

opinion and I am certainly aware that it is against the grain.

[BainsBane]

45. That's one person who never should walk free again

Life without parole.

[Sheldon Cooper]

46. I am against the death penalty in all cases.

Life without parole is sufficient.

[Tx4obama]

52. The Court is in recess. The Jury has gone into deliberations

Note: If the jurors decide not to sentence Arias to death, Judge Stephens will either sentence her to life in prison without parole or life in prison with the eligibility for parole after 25 years.

[flamingdem]

55. I don't care. I wish the media would turn to less sensationalistic subjects nt

[southernyankeebelle]

56. Normally am not for the death penalty but I sure have mixed feelings on this one.

She was exceptionally cruel in killing him. Then again when she got up there and showed that survivor tee shirt well that was it for me. I never heard the words am sorry. Again she trashed Travis. There is no redeeming quality with her.

[backscatter712]

61. Life sentence. I don't want to even encourage use of the DP. Too many innocents have been executed.

Society will do just fine with her spending the rest of her life in a concrete box.

[gopiscrap]

68. I agree

I am absolutely against the death penalty..it's been used in such a prejucial manner, is incredibly expensive, immoral and worst of all, fallible!

[oldhippie]

63. Burn her ....

I don't want to pay to feed and house her for the rest of her life. I don't need her on my planet wasting oxygen and producing CO2.

[backscatter712]

69. You do understand that the death penalty is far more expensive than a life sentence. n/t

[oldhippie]

71. No, it's not, really ......

It's a self-imposed expense. I could fix that. I'd supply the bullet and pull the trigger.

[backscatter712]

73. Sure, if you don't mind skipping the trial and the steps that keep us from executing the innocent.nt

[closeupready]

75. Constitutional democracy is for wimps!

[oldhippie]

93. Didn't skip the trial .....

Have you been paying attention?

There was a trial. She admitted it in court. Jury found her guilty. I don't see any justification for 20 years of appeals. You may disagree.

[backscatter712]

94. She still gets her appeals.

Because contrary to popular belief, people convicted of death-penalty offenses have been later exonerated.

...or had exonerating evidence come out, and get ignored by the court. Just ask Troy Davis. Oh wait, you can't. He was executed. After significant problems came up discrediting witnesses and evidence in his trial, that was ignored because the governor wanted to show he was badass by putting a prisoner to death even though the NAACP and most of DU were protesting his innocence.

Oh, but this prisoner's different, so she shouldn't get due process.

[oldhippie]

95. Appeal? She admitted killing the guy .....

What's to appeal? That she should get a lesser charge? That her lawyer was incompetent?

Grasping at straws.

[backscatter712]

97. She has the right to a vigorous defense.

Oh, wait, unlike other criminals, she's special, so she shouldn't get a lawyer and due process.

Do you know how you sound?

[oldhippie]

98. She had a vigorous defense. She lost.

"Do you know how you sound?"

Yeah, like someone who disagrees with you.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

103. Oh man...you have got to ask DU Admin to allow you to change your name ! I want rid of

mine and it's connection to Bush hatred, which I am so over. But you are taking the "old hippie" name in vain.

[hrmjustin]

77. Life behind barsis good enough for me.

[NaturalHigh]

80. I have no idea.

I didn't follow the trial.

[Kalidurga]

82. Life no possibility of parole.

It is the most brutal sentence I can imagine.

[mountain grammy]

84. There's that pesky 8th amendment. Cruel and unusual punishment.

This was an issue in the 18th century and our founders felt strongly enough to include this in the Bill of Rights. To me, it says "no torture and no death penalty, but obviously that's not our esteemed judges' interpretation.
This woman is an obvious sociopath and I don't wish to defend her, but it seems life in an American hell hole, oops, prison, should be cruel and unusual punishment enough to satisfy the bloodthirsty calls for death.
I am against the death penalty 99.9%. I'm saving the .1% for Dick Cheney.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

106. omg...that is exactly what I said - the only person I would want to kill or to have killed is DC nt

[Jasana]

92. I can't wait till this stupid trial is over

The MSM has been jumping all over this when there are far more important things to worry about. I suppose after this they will just find another stupid trial to obsess over.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

105. you must not like mysteries?

[unreadierLizard]

102. Death.

Someone as messed up as her forfeits their right to live. She harassed and stalked Travis until she murdered him.

She gets no sympathy from me.