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It's easy to see how she screwed up, but in the comments someone says there were "several" warning signs from the dog. I know not to get my face that close, but I admit missing any/all clues by the dog.
Article:
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/02/kyle_dyer_9news_bit_in_face_dog.php
Video:
polly7
(20,582 posts)but what struck me, is that neither officer looked towards her first to see if she was alright. I'm glad she's ok.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)But, yes, there was a lip curl that, had she understood dog behavior a bit more (or been a bit less distracted by the interview), she might have picked up on.
The dog's body language was very consistently compliant and passive while she was stroking him, but once she moved in with her face, he did send a signal...
I hope she is ok. Not a good idea in general to put one's face directly to a dog you don't know... It is taken as a sign of aggression for many dogs.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Even if she had been paying attention, I'm not sure she could have avoided it, other than by not getting down in the dog's face. By the time the dog curled the lip, it was really too late.
She messed up, and the handlers messed up. They should have warned her IN ADVANCE not to get in the dog's face.
Damn shame, and I hope she and the dog are both OK.
Bake
Demonaut
(8,917 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)no, of couse I'm not blaming the dog, but blaming the woman is just as ridiculous. She's an anchor person, not an expert on what to do with dogs. Presumably the dumbasses sitting there ARE experts and if she shouldn't have gotten that close they should have told her to back off.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)But, yes, from the standpoint of the dog, her body language in moving her face directly into his was an aggressive act. From the dog's POV, she definitely did "something wrong"... Her fault? No. But, it was a mistake. I just hope she is ok.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)is it my responsibility to become a dog expert so I don't get my lip ripped off, which is what happened to this woman. She's undergoing reconstructive surgery.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)What an incredibly rude and inappropriate response to me.
I actually know Kyle on a professional level. I am very saddened to see this happen to her.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Especially safety concerns. Don't bother them when they are eating, don't pull their tails. I would have said don't put your face right in front of them unless you know them well, or they are wagging their tail and acting friendly.
madmom
(9,681 posts)that close, yes, it is your responsibility to know how it will react, or suffer the consequences.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)been to pull the dog back away from her.
This was the handlers fault. They were not paying attention, not to mention that dog just experienced a terrible trauma.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)the dog was supposed to be a cute friendly prop. Usually it works out, this time it didn't.
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)My instinct would have been to take care of my dog in that situation. Seeing her in his face and frantically petting him and the nervousness in her voice and how the dog was acting- I would have stood up and walked the dog away from her while keeping the conversation going.
I hope the woman is ok and I hope that dogs handlers take better care of him in the future.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...even before they enter school.
A forgotten lesson is more likely than ignorance.
And she did not exactly give them time to stop her.
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)being that close and holding his face like that. The officers should have taken better care of that dog, told her to back off.
Broderick
(4,578 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)and not able to notice or process what the dog was doing. Not really her fault, just an unfortunate incident. I've never been bitten by a dog, nor have I ever seen the warning signs in person (despite having volunteered at the Humane Society)--but then I'm cautious around any dog that isn't mine. That said, I wonder what they will do with the mastiff?
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Any dog can act like that to anyone at any time, and apparently everyone in that studio forgot that.
mrs_p
(3,014 posts)Especially when someone isn't really paying attention. I hope Kyle is OK.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I was sleeping using our border collie as a pillow. She startled awake and bit my face, ripping my glasses off. I wasn't seriously damaged but the look on her face showed the horror that she knew what she had done was wrong. She was sleeping for God's sake. Despite my minor wounds, I just held her and reassured her that it was okay and I wasn't mad. I could tell she felt horrible. This is a dog that could rip the lungs out of an MMA fighter, but she's all pure and good inside. Instinct just kicks in sometimes.
The woman in the video clearly didn't read the dog's "uncomfortable zone" body language. You can't blame her if she wasn't familiar with recognizing it and you can't blame the dog for acting on it. That's a cultural clash and nothing more. It also isn't the trainer's fault. I'm faster than some dogs, but not most. The one thing I am never afraid to do is put my hand in a dog's mouth (behind the canines) and squeeze the lower jaw. I've trained a lot of dogs that way. Grab the jaw and look them in the eye and say, "I'm not afraid of you. Do NOT bite." with a rather loud growl before letting them go. It works and none have ever drawn blood.
Large dogs are a different realm than small dogs. They demand and deserve the respect in the same way that bears do. They LOOK like they should be cuddly, and most are, but if you violate their comfort level they can do far more damage than a small dog. While it is unfortunate that she was injured, her ignorance of the breed is what caused it, not the dog. She still isn't at intentional fault and neither is the dog.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I pet sit dogs all day long.
I never, ever put my face in a dog's face. They can react to that so fast that you literally could get your face ripped off. If I do something that stupid I never blame the dog. That's my fault. The dog is just reacting instinctively.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)Large outpouring of support and a video piece on her linked below:
http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1443380365001&odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|featured
The dog is undergoing mandatory quarantine and the owner was cited per law, but this is routine. Unless other issues arise, he'll go home to his family in 10 days.