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byronius

(7,395 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:51 PM Feb 2012

We need a 1936.

These people need to spend some time in the corner. They don’t play well with other children, they deface the toys, eat the chalk and throw poop at everyone. They’re mean, especially to poor kids and the girls. They’re full of really bad ideas that cause trouble for everyone.

Counseling. A firm but loving hand. They have a lot of thinking to do. Time for them to grow up, and help make the world a better place.


Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1936

"The United States presidential election of 1936 was the most lopsided presidential election in the history of the United States in terms of electoral votes. In terms of the popular vote, it was the third biggest victory since the election of 1820, which was not seriously contested.

The election took place as the Great Depression entered its eighth year. Incumbent President Franklin D. Roosevelt was still working to push the provisions of his New Deal economic policy through Congress and the courts. However, the New Deal policies he had already enacted, such as Social Security and unemployment benefits, had proven to be highly popular with most Americans. Roosevelt's Republican opponent was Governor Alf Landon of Kansas, a political moderate.

Although some political pundits predicted a close race, Roosevelt went on to win the greatest electoral landslide since the beginning of the current two-party system in the 1850s, carrying all but 8 electoral votes. Roosevelt carried every state except Maine and Vermont.

By winning 523 electoral votes, Roosevelt received 98.49% of the electoral vote, the highest percentage since 1820. Roosevelt also won the largest number of electoral votes ever recorded at that time, so far only surpassed by Ronald Reagan in the 1984 election, when 7 more electoral votes were available. In addition, Roosevelt won 60.8% of the national popular vote, the second highest popular-vote percentage won since 1820."


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jpgray

(27,831 posts)
2. A 1936 is earned, not given
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:57 PM
Feb 2012

Everyone on this board I assume will be working or at minimum voting for Obama, but the necessary unifying zeal is not in evidence among the rest of the population. Part of it is that a lot of money has been spent to ensure that is the case, but the other part is that in policy and rhetoric our candidates are designed to excite and galvanize people with excess money rather than what such people would call the excess population.

Obama would be stupid not to use a SuperPAC, the argument would go, because no one in his campaign knows how to win without one. Possibly no one knows how, because it hasn't been, and won't be, tried in this political era. That's no fault on him as he's better than many of his peers would be, but I think it dooms any sweeping movement that wins the entire nation to failure.

Unless it's Santorum or Newt.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. 1936 was earned by FDR's results
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:21 PM
Feb 2012

Unemployment dropped by 40% during his first term, and GDP grew 8% per year. Those results turned everyone into Democrats.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
3. There are states that will NEVER vote for a Democrat and especially Obama.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:58 PM
Feb 2012

Even if we had the biggest economic turnaround ever, there are some people who are so rooted in bigotry and their twisted sense of "values" it would simply not happen.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
5. We need the 1936 Congressional election
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:12 PM
Feb 2012

71st Congress (1929-1931)
Majority Party: Republican (56 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (39 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Farmer-Labor
Total Seats: 96

75th Congress (1937-1939)
Majority Party: Democrat (76 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (16 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Farmer-Labor; 1 Progressive; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 96

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
8. I think that a 1996 is more likely in this climate.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:23 PM
Feb 2012

Maybe a bit wider than President Clinton's 8% margin, like around 9 to 11 %. I personally consider a 10% margin to be a landslide.

I expect President Obama to get more electoral votes than in 2008, possible up to 400+ a little.

PEACE!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. FDR was great, but 1937 brought a republican-like focus on balancing the federal budget leading to
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:48 AM
Feb 2012

the Recession of 1937-1938.

"The Recession of 1937–1938 was a temporary reversal of the pre-war 1933 to 1941 economic recovery from the Great Depression in the United States.

By the spring of 1937, production, profits, and wages had regained their 1929 levels. Unemployment remained high, but it was considerably lower than the 25% rate seen in 1933. In June 1937, some of Roosevelt's advisors urged spending cuts to balance the budget. WPA rolls were drastically cut and PWA projects were slowed to a standstill. The American economy took a sharp downturn in mid-1937, lasting for 13 months through most of 1938. Industrial production declined almost 30 percent and production of durable goods fell even faster.

Unemployment jumped from 14.3% in 1937 to 19.0% in 1938. Manufacturing output fell by 37% from the 1937 peak and was back to 1934 levels. ... Although the American economy recovered in mid-1938, employment did not regain the 1937 level until the United States entered World War II in late 1941."

FDR did a wonderful job overall with the New Deal, but even he made mistakes

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