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Oh. You are calm. Sorry...
Looks like the only ones freaking out are the desperate GOP and it's faux outraged base. And while the media keeps TRYING to make this a story America keeps shrugging and saying "who the fuck cares, we agree that contraception is an important part of health and well-being, are you people crazy?!".
I'm telling you, as a young(ish) person myself (31 yrs old) this is one of those 'last of a dying breed' issues that is a throwback to a time when women wore poodle skirts and dancing too close was considered risque. Back to a time when the faster the drumbeat the closer to Satan. Under 2 decades until petty non-sensical prude issues like this go away for good. No one cares about this non-issue anymore.
The whole mindframe behind this faux outrage is ridiculous. Lets see, they are anti-choice, yet also anti-contraception, so that means they are basically saying sex should ONLY be done when it is meant for reproductive purposes. Do you know how insanely silly that sounds to someone my age let alone the next generation 20 yrs from now?! Actually you probably do know how silly and ridiculous that sounds, along with the rest of America who can't seem to muster up a 'give-a-fuck' about this nonsense issue. But I can see how this issue really rallies up the inbred morons on the other side of the aisle who love nothing more than tying religion to the Constitution.
Conservatism is dead. And while it still has a pulse (like living in our SCOTUS), it is well on it's way to its grave. When I see polls and charts showing that 70+% of people age 18-35 believe same-sex marriage should be legalized you better believe that the final nail in the coffin of conservatism is under 2 decades away.
So go right ahead:
1-Media
2-Bill O'Reilly
3-Father 'whatever your name is on FOX nooze whining'
4-RepubliCon senators and congressmen
if you feel the need to cry, complain, throw a temper-tantrum, and squirm and squeal to make yourselves feel better than by all means please go right ahead, because this faux outrage will doom your party even further and expose how relentlessly out of touch with society's current state of affairs you really are. While all of you conservative congressmen/women sit in your homes in your gated communities FAR removed from the real world, feel comforted by the fact that your teenage and 20somethings sons and daughters are WAAAY more intelligent than you because they ARE using contraceptive and practicing safe-sex, something the dying breed just can't seem to wrap their tiny little brains around.
Pres. Obama, PLEASE don't flip-flop on this issue. This is a great achievement not only for women's rights but for society as a whole. Never feel bad giving power to the people. Now we're starting to look like a civilized society. Can I get an AMEN!
Spazito
(50,359 posts)it is the RCC hierarchy with their mainstream talking heads as enablers, the rabid religious zealots and the repubs trying to drum up outrage for political reasons. The average Catholics are the ones actually doing the charity, caring work the hierarchy only talks about, imo.
My total disgust is solely for the RCC hierarchy and others and NOT for the average Catholics who are not outraged with this faux issue at all from what I have read and from polls that are being taken.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)Let's be serious, this is just GOP desperation and nothing more.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)just THAT: BS.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Is an embaresment to Catholics.
tsuki
(11,994 posts)busy sucking down tax dollars to care?
WildEyedLiberal
(12,799 posts)I love that Catholics are in favor of Obama's plan. Good thing the Vatican can't get away with the Inquisition anymore to force us back in line
Aerows
(39,961 posts)A LOT of Catholics are fed up with the nonsense that says birth control is bad, yet covers up for priests molesting 9 year olds.
WTF? Why should you have a shred of authority when it's revealed that you covered for a child molester, but condemn a married couple for preventing having more children than they can afford? What, are you angry there won't be more in the orphanage to molest if they do?
jody
(26,624 posts)political issues for which no compromise seems possible.
Take a half-dozen such issues with several per cent passionate believers on each extreme, add a core voter constituency of twenty or so percent, and nudge independents who vote but otherwise don't care much about politics and a campaign manager can pull off an election and occupy the White House.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)and actively helping to prosecute priests and church officials that molest children, I'll believe that birth control might be an issue in which they are correct. As it stands, they just look like they want more kids in orphanages so there's more prey.
renie408
(9,854 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)What Pres. Obama is doing is a GOOD thing. The ONLY people complaining are the ones who never see the good in anything Obama does. Nothing new here.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)he likes to start the day with phoney outrage and hopes all the program lineup on Msnbc will follow him all day and evening.
He is looking to slow down Obama's recent momentum. I get a kick when someone is making a salient point; he interupts and goes off
on a rage. He will be proved wrong in this situation and the polls will support it soon.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)His token woman, Susan Page, is agreeing with her bosses on it and toeing that line.
"Oh, it's such a big problem. Even non-Catholics are upset with it on principle."
What a pant load this stuff is!
A whole bunch of straw men...
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)9 out 10 rank and file Catholics use birth control.
Catholicism is like any other religion - there are normal people and there are nutjobs. Unfortunately, like most religions, nutjobs run the place.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)mzmolly
(50,994 posts)the President.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I've been telling people for years that while many use "Catholic Church" as shorthand for "the Catholic bishops", the Catholic Church includes the entire membership, and on any given topic, there may be many, many priests and lay people who disagree with the bishops! The bishops can close hospital chapels and parishes, but they don't follow us into the voting booth or the bedroom!
treestar
(82,383 posts)I can understand a Catholic not preferring that, but birth control? Come on.
WildEyedLiberal
(12,799 posts)Sincerely,
A Catholic who believes free and unfettered access to birth control and Plan B should be an unquestioned part of our future universal health care system.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)I have a hard time watching his show his show sometimes, but I literally turned it when I saw him starting in on it today.
Amazing thread. K&R!
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Is this algebra homework I'm trying to figure out (had to take a break). I never even heard of this Donohue guy before.
louslobbs
(3,235 posts)Lou