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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:11 PM May 2013

It's On! Vermont Vs. Monsanto

http://vtdigger.org/2013/05/10/house-decides-gmo-labeling-lawsuit-worth-the-risk/

House decides GMO labeling lawsuit worth the risk
by Andrew Stein | May 10, 2013

The Vermont House this week became the first legislative body in the country to pass a law that would require the labeling of foods derived from genetically modified organisms.

The House voted 99-42 in favor of House bill H.112. The vote came after lawmakers defeated an amendment on Friday that would have cored the bill of its central labeling language and after a lengthy floor debate on Thursday.

Opponents of the bill took issue with the potential lawsuit such legislation would likely bring, and the more than $5 million the Attorney General’s Office estimates such a lawsuit would cost taxpayers. Other opponents took issue with how the bill could stigmatize technologies that are helpful to farmers.

But the will to move the bill forward was strong in the House. The prevailing argument voiced in the House was that a lawsuit is worth the risk, and a consumer’s right to know what is in his or her food outweighs the negative connotations such labeling might create for GMO crops.

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It's On! Vermont Vs. Monsanto (Original Post) G_j May 2013 OP
YAY! Finally, someone is saying no!!! YAY!!! Squinch May 2013 #1
This is totally a tangent but LondonReign2 May 2013 #2
OTOH? texshelters May 2013 #6
On The Other Hand LondonReign2 May 2013 #7
Doh! texshelters May 2013 #22
Common in the Northeast. NutmegYankee May 2013 #11
I was surprised recently to read that at some point in the past, every town karynnj May 2013 #13
Go Vermont! City Lights May 2013 #3
Genetically modified food is so incredibly wonderful Addison May 2013 #4
!!! bvar22 May 2013 #5
As a proud Californian eissa May 2013 #8
Ben & Jerry's, Bernie Sanders and this. Greybnk48 May 2013 #19
Most food is derived from genetically modified organisms FarCenter May 2013 #9
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing zipplewrath May 2013 #17
well, it's alive, but barely. cali May 2013 #10
oh G_j May 2013 #12
Oh, I think the Senate will pass it next year cali May 2013 #14
Has anyone ever called Monsanto's bluff before? I hope they do. That last thing Monsanto wants sabrina 1 May 2013 #15
hey, sabrina. nice to see you. cali May 2013 #16
we're so proud of Vermont! G_j May 2013 #20
Excellent Berlum May 2013 #18
Way to be sane Vermont! You might be the only one in the Union but keep it up. TheKentuckian May 2013 #21

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
2. This is totally a tangent but
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:27 PM
May 2013

I was astonished to see the Vermont has 150 state representatives, or 1 for every 4,100 people.

California, OTOH, has 80 -- one for every 465,000 people.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
11. Common in the Northeast.
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:50 PM
May 2013

Connecticut has 150 reps, or 1 for every 23,700 residents, and Mass has 160 reps or 1 for every 41,500 residents.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
13. I was surprised recently to read that at some point in the past, every town
Wed May 15, 2013, 06:05 PM
May 2013

had 1 representative - no matter how big or small they were.


Until the mid-1960s Vermont’s constitution specified that each town, regardless of its population, had one representative in the House. Burlington’s sole House member represented more people than the 107 representatives from the 107 smallest towns. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1962 that “one town, one vote” apportionment violated the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and in 1964 the Vermont Supreme Court came to the same decision in the case of Buckley vs. Hoff. A year later Vermont’s legislators passed a plan for reapportionment, which cut the number of House members from 246 to 150.


http://www.freedomandunity.org/vt_transition/power_shifts.html

Addison

(299 posts)
4. Genetically modified food is so incredibly wonderful
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:35 PM
May 2013

that its producers don't want you to know you're eating it.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
8. As a proud Californian
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:21 PM
May 2013

I have to say that Vermont is the coolest state. It's not enough you guys have Ben & Jerry's, now this!

Greybnk48

(10,170 posts)
19. Ben & Jerry's, Bernie Sanders and this.
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:23 AM
May 2013

There's more to love, but I just woke up and can't think.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. Most food is derived from genetically modified organisms
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:22 PM
May 2013

Essentially everything that contains soybean oil, corn oil or HFCS comes from soybeans or corn that is GMO.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
17. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:59 AM
May 2013

This requirement could easily fall onto the local stores, to mark the items, and I'd betcha it wouldn't take long for them to figure out that just about everything their selling has the POTENTIAL for being labeled. Since Monsanto has been fairly successful in avoiding having to disclose this information, it may be hard to actually know how vast the exposure is.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. well, it's alive, but barely.
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:48 PM
May 2013

The legislative session is over so it's not going anywhere until next year and this has been going on for close to 3 years. The Senate will vote- or not- next session which isn't until next year.

Many are terrified of being sued by Monsanto- which has far deeper pockets than the state of Vermont.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. Oh, I think the Senate will pass it next year
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:32 AM
May 2013

The makeup of our state senate is very liberal and David Zuckerman, organic farmer, former Ag chair in the house will surely be working hard on it over the summer and into the fall. I don't know if Shumlin will sign it due to the law suit costs, but I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

Monsanto has been threatening the hell out of the state.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Has anyone ever called Monsanto's bluff before? I hope they do. That last thing Monsanto wants
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:51 AM
May 2013

is to have everything they are hiding from the public, exposed in a lawsuit.

I realize that going up against a large, Mafia-like Corp such as Monsanto would take immense courage and they are likely to smear and try to destroy anyone who dares, but the more who do so, the harder it will be for them to accomplish their nasty goals.

What would help would be if other states were to do the same thing.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. hey, sabrina. nice to see you.
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:59 AM
May 2013

No, I don't think any state has. I don't think the fear is being smeared, it's simply that Monsanto has very deep pockets and states don't want to get into protracted expensive law suits.

Yes, it would help if other states teamed up with Vermont, but that doesn't seem too likely. Maybe if VT does enact legislation requiring labeling, a defense fund could be set up.

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