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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWrong on Obamacare, WSJ editorial board searches for new spin
Give Back that Pulitzer, Wall Street Journal Editorial Page
By Jonathan Chait
The recent slowdown in health-care costs is one of those facts, like climate change or the rapid growth after Bill Clinton raised taxes, that flummoxes American conservatism. The slowdown of health-care costs is one of the most important developments in American politics. The long-term deficit crisis those scary charts Paul Ryan likes to hold up, with federal spending soaring to absurd levels in a grim socialist dystopian future all assume the cost of health care will continue to rise faster than the cost of other things. If that changes, the entire premise of the American debate changes. And theres a lot of evidence to suggest it is changing health-care costs have slowed dramatically, and experts believe its happening for non-temporary reasons.
The general conservative response to date has involved ignoring the trend, or perhaps dismissing it as a temporary, recession-induced dip likely to reverse itself. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal editorial page offered up what may be the new conservative fallback position: Okay, health-care costs are slowing down, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the huge new health-care reform law. It increasingly looks as if ObamaCare passed amid a national correction in the health markets, the Journal now asserts, that no one in Congress or the White House understood. Its another one of those huge, crazy coincidences!
Of course, its not just that the Journal didnt predict the health-care cost slowdown. The Journal insisted it couldnt possibly happen. Indeed, it insisted that Obamacare would destroy was already destroying any possible hope for a health-care cost correction, and would instead necessarily lead to a massive increase in health-care inflation.
In a series of hysterical, freedom-at-dusk editorials which were, unbelievably, awarded a Pulitzer Prize for commentary, the Journal expounded extensively on this belief. Health-care costs were exploding in Massachusetts, the editorial bemoaned on March 2, 2010 merely a preview of what the entire country will face if Democrats succeed with their plan to pound ObamaCare into law in anything like its current form. It continued on March 20 of that year, Once the health-care markets are put through Mr. Obama's de facto nationalization, costs will further explode. (Not may, will.) On June 11, another editorial complained that Medicare Advantage, the privatized version of Medicare whose overpayments Obama eliminated, might eventually liberate the U.S. health market from government price controls, except that Democrats were intent on killing it.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/give-back-that-pulitzer-journal-editorial-page.html
By Jonathan Chait
The recent slowdown in health-care costs is one of those facts, like climate change or the rapid growth after Bill Clinton raised taxes, that flummoxes American conservatism. The slowdown of health-care costs is one of the most important developments in American politics. The long-term deficit crisis those scary charts Paul Ryan likes to hold up, with federal spending soaring to absurd levels in a grim socialist dystopian future all assume the cost of health care will continue to rise faster than the cost of other things. If that changes, the entire premise of the American debate changes. And theres a lot of evidence to suggest it is changing health-care costs have slowed dramatically, and experts believe its happening for non-temporary reasons.
The general conservative response to date has involved ignoring the trend, or perhaps dismissing it as a temporary, recession-induced dip likely to reverse itself. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal editorial page offered up what may be the new conservative fallback position: Okay, health-care costs are slowing down, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the huge new health-care reform law. It increasingly looks as if ObamaCare passed amid a national correction in the health markets, the Journal now asserts, that no one in Congress or the White House understood. Its another one of those huge, crazy coincidences!
Of course, its not just that the Journal didnt predict the health-care cost slowdown. The Journal insisted it couldnt possibly happen. Indeed, it insisted that Obamacare would destroy was already destroying any possible hope for a health-care cost correction, and would instead necessarily lead to a massive increase in health-care inflation.
In a series of hysterical, freedom-at-dusk editorials which were, unbelievably, awarded a Pulitzer Prize for commentary, the Journal expounded extensively on this belief. Health-care costs were exploding in Massachusetts, the editorial bemoaned on March 2, 2010 merely a preview of what the entire country will face if Democrats succeed with their plan to pound ObamaCare into law in anything like its current form. It continued on March 20 of that year, Once the health-care markets are put through Mr. Obama's de facto nationalization, costs will further explode. (Not may, will.) On June 11, another editorial complained that Medicare Advantage, the privatized version of Medicare whose overpayments Obama eliminated, might eventually liberate the U.S. health market from government price controls, except that Democrats were intent on killing it.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/give-back-that-pulitzer-journal-editorial-page.html
This is the WSJ editorial board that was impressed with Palin on economics.
Pelosi Credits Obamacare For Lowering Deficit, Health Costs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022841377
Krugman called it in 2011:
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What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.
And what do these things have in common? Theyre all in last years health reform bill.
Thats why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president. And if his opponents were serious about those deficits, theyd be backing his actions and calling for more; instead, theyve been screaming about death panels.
Now, even if we manage to rein in health costs, well still have a long-run deficit problem a fundamental gap between the governments spending and the amount it collects in taxes. So what should be done?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18krugman.html
What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.
And what do these things have in common? Theyre all in last years health reform bill.
Thats why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president. And if his opponents were serious about those deficits, theyd be backing his actions and calling for more; instead, theyve been screaming about death panels.
Now, even if we manage to rein in health costs, well still have a long-run deficit problem a fundamental gap between the governments spending and the amount it collects in taxes. So what should be done?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18krugman.html
What should be done next recently happened, including raising taxes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022845730
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Wrong on Obamacare, WSJ editorial board searches for new spin (Original Post)
ProSense
May 2013
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Bravo to President Obama & his health care. Personally, I saved already $19,200 a year in premiums
graham4anything
May 2013
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graham4anything
(11,464 posts)1. Bravo to President Obama & his health care. Personally, I saved already $19,200 a year in premiums
(I have written in detail on other thread about this, so won't write it again.)
But that is with UNLIMITED NO CAP, and NO exclusion in new company due to preexisting
selfemployed family plan
2012 I could NOT switch because of preexisting
2013 I was able due to early launch in NJ by some companies
and instead of 50/50 til met, its 70-30, so any bills in 2013-2014 will also save that 20%.
truly amazing
100% thanks to President Obama.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)2. K&R - thanks, Prosense.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)5. Thanks.
This thread sank fast.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)3. Fuck the WSJ I have 3 words:
UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER!!!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)4. Yes. n/t
Right now!
patrice
(47,992 posts)11. Yes! & Never give up. nt
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)7. Obama was wrong on healthcare. Simple fact.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)8. Rupert? n/t
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