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ProSense

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Thu May 9, 2013, 10:44 AM May 2013

Tesla Motors posts first quarterly profit in its 10-year history

Tesla Motors posts first quarterly profit in its 10-year history

By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

For the first time in its 10 year history, electric car maker Tesla Motors Inc. turned a quarterly profit, beating analysts expectations for sales of its pricey luxury sedans.

The Palo Alto automaker on Wednesday reported net income of $11.2 million, or 12 cents a share, in the three month period that ended March 31. That's up from a loss of $89.9 million, or 76 cents a share, a year earlier. Analysts, on average, had predicted a profit of 4 cents a share.

Tesla reported revenue of $561.8 million on record sales of 4,900 of its top-of-the-line Model S sedans. That surpassed the company's forecast by more than 250 vehicles and prompted the automaker to raise its 2013 forecast. It now expects to sell about 21,000 of its Model S vehicles by the end of this year.

"There was a lot of skepticism out there that the company would be able to reach that delivery mark," said Elaine Kwei, an analyst with Jefferies & Co. "So the fact that they're raising it — albeit moderately — shows they have visibility to not only hit the mark — but exceeded it. That gives investors additional confidence that the company can hit their targets."

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0509-tesla-earnings-20130509,0,3047976.story


Loan Program Made Infamous By Solyndra Has Created 20,000 Jobs While Its Cost To Taxpayers Is Shrinking

By Jeff Spross

The Department of Energy’s Loan Guarantee Program was started in 2005 under the Bush Administration, but ramped up thanks to the 2009 stimulus passed by President Obama and the Democrats. It has gotten a bad rap ever since the high-profile failure of Solyndra, one of the solar tech companies the program invested in.

But, of course, a certain amount of failures and losses just come with the territory of investments in new technology. And The Atlantic Wire reports that the latest numbers reveal the program’s successfully shepherded 28 companies with various renewable energy projects, while creating over 20,000 jobs. Throw in the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing loan program, and the total created jobs come to around 60,000.

The purpose of the program, which is no longer handing out new loans, was to help companies cross the “valley of death” — the point when a company’s debt is at a maximum, because it’s already spent money investing in capacity and research and development, but hasn’t yet seen enough success in the market to have the revenue to begin paying those loans back. The government guarantee then encourages private investors, who must ultimately make up at least 20 percent of the investment pool under the programs rules, to take the risk of backing the company. The government’s own contributions are also structured as a loan, meant to be paid back over time.

As The Atlantic Wire notes, that last point is especially important to remember. The loan program has paid out $26 billion in total, resulting in a less-than-impressive ratio of $1.2 million per job created. But that’s with the government’s expenditures all out the door, and the returns from the companies yet to come in:

The loan guarantee is often considered a cost, which it isn’t. Some programs — like that wind farm out in Hawaii, are already repaying the loan, though it’s not clear how much. Others, like NextEra Energy, never received the full loan amount. We are currently at the high point of the dollars-for-jobs-created ratio. Given the nature of the program, the amount the government is out is reduced gradually over time.

The calculation is only temporarily that 0.8 jobs were created for every $1 million spent. It is nearly as fair to say that the ratio is 20,000-to-zero.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/05/07/1977001/loan-program-20000-jobs/


The theme of this OP is bad news for Mitt and Republicans everywhere.

In an October presidential debate, Mitt Romney jeered that Tesla, Solyndra, and others were "losers" that had proven bad bets for loans from the Obama administration. Musk stayed silent then, but he couldn't resist a little gloating on Monday. Recalling Romney's remark that Tesla was a loser, he said, "In retrospect he was right about the object of that statement, but not the subject."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021808604

Sarah Palin calls Tesla a "loser"; Elon Musk tweets "Am deeply wounded."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112740650

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Tesla Motors posts first quarterly profit in its 10-year history (Original Post) ProSense May 2013 OP
Tesla stock up 20% today to $67. godai May 2013 #1
I'd love to buy stock in this company..n/t monmouth3 May 2013 #2
Without profits from Zero Emission Vehicle Credits, Tesla would've posted a loss. Mother Muckraker May 2013 #3

godai

(2,902 posts)
1. Tesla stock up 20% today to $67.
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:57 AM
May 2013

Elon Musk is a true corporate innovator, with Tesla, Space X and Solar City. He has a plan for fast charging stations across the US, with free charging for Tesla owners. Tesla S is expensive but so are ICE luxury cars.

Mother Muckraker

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3. Without profits from Zero Emission Vehicle Credits, Tesla would've posted a loss.
Thu May 23, 2013, 12:22 AM
May 2013
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2013/05/08/tesla-delivers-promised-profit-isnt-counting-on-green-credits-going-forward/

Tesla made clear a number of things in its earnings release:
(1) it isn’t counting on these revenues to hit the gross margin target of 25%
(2) it will go no revenues from cars sold abroad, which will start happening in third quarter
(3) it expects the value of the credits to decline and doesn’t consider them material to its business.


Tesla achieved a profit largely due to revenue from Zero Emission Vehicle credits of $68 million which is expected to decline. The profits for Q1 was $11 million.

Keep in mind, the sales revenue of the Model S are booked on delivery. The profits for Q1 reflect largely on fulfilling orders for those people who have waited months after making a deposit with a "reservation".

Tesla has stopped taking reservations which makes determining demand more difficult.
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