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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think I'm going to go with the guy who didn't wait until the other one refused to take the reward
...before telling their story.
Angel said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door Even though he also said: ""Ramsey arrived after she was outside with the girl,""
"Ramsey arrived after she was outside with the girl," Cordero told the reporter in Spanish.
"But the truth who arrived there, who crossed the street, who came and broke the door, it was me."
Cordero said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door of the Seymore Avenue home.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-neighbor-charles-ramsey-freed-captive-women-article-1.1338192#ixzz2Sl2v17hv
He also doesn't speak English, but told Piers Morgan via a translator earlier...
"The first one that talked to Amanda was me, and she told me what was going on and that there was two other women in the house."
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/08/angel-cordero-on-rescuing-amanda-berry-i-kicked-the-door-at-the-bottom-and-thats-when-amanda-ran-out/
Charles has always said he wasn't the 1st.
And I know ain't nobody over there. Heard that girl scream and saw him run across the street, and I went outside and wondered what he was doing, and - Amanda said, I'm stuck in here, help get me out. So he - guy don't know English that well or panicked, he just looked at me and it's a girl. And that's all he did. So here I come with my, you know, half eaten Big Mac and I looked and I said well, what's up.
And she's like I've been trapped in here, he won't let me out, me and my baby. I said well, we ain't going to talk no more, come on. I'm trying to get the door open, I can't, because he torture chambered it some kind of way and locked it up, right? So I did what I had to do and kicked the bottom of the door, and she crawled out of it. She grabs her baby, which threw me off, all right, so fine. I got some girl and her kid.
=snip=
COOPER: Amanda Berry then, what, asked to call 911?
RAMSEY: Mm-hmm. And I took her to my house. Now I'm nervous as hell so I'm fumbling with my phone, so I finally get it right. She can't wait and I don't blame her. So what I do was tell her go across the street and use their phone. Now we're both calling 911. Now she gets through and I get through. She deal with a moron, me, too.
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/07/transcript-video-charles-ramsey-ac360-exclusive-invu/
It's Angel's word against Charles'. I think I'm going to go with the guy who didn't wait until the other one refused to take the reward before telling his story.
Anyway, Amanda knows what happened and the truth will come out eventually.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)refused the reward? Or you think Angel was right because he didn't speak up until Charles refused the reward?
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)That's not to say that Angel wasn't a participant in the events and deserves some credit for that, I'm just suspicious and think he could be embellishing as there are holes.
uppityperson
(115,679 posts)and yes, I am loopy anyway.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Each one seems to claim he broke down the door.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Unlike Angel, who seems to be trying to claim he did everything.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Considering you are claiming Charles turned this reward down. Shouldn't it be split then?
Turborama
(22,109 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/cleveland-man-who-found-missing-woman-amanda-berry-i-thought-that-girl-was-dead#ixzz2SlQSQ600
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)Technically "he" did kick the door.
Maybe by the stage of the Anderson Cooper interview he assumed everyone would know he meant he wasn't the only one who kicked it, as he'd already talked about the other guy's involvement?
Have you watched the video with Anderson Cooper yet?
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Why was Charles going to get the whole reward anyway, since it appears Angel was the first one at the door?
Turborama
(22,109 posts)He doesn't want even a portion of the reward.
See the interview here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017117342
blogslut
(38,016 posts)That's what matters. Why must we play along with the media manipulation? Give it a few days and they'll start feeding us unflattering details from the lives of the victims themselves. It's all a soap-selling game to them.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)You can post anything about anyone as long as you have in the post.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)(Hat tip to DonViejo for this excellent thread)
And
Charles Ramsey says criminal past made him a better person