Jodi Arias says she wants the death penalty

[BainsBane]

After the verdict, she gave Fox an interview saying she preferred the death penalty to life in prison.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57583601/jodi-arias-says-she-prefers-death-penalty/

My question is what kind of lawyers allow their client to talk to the press and say such a thing. Sandusky similarly blabbed to the press. I'm no lawyer, but I know this kind of thing does not help a defendant's cases. So

[Daniel537]

1. Eh, fine by me. n/t

[Th1onein]

50. You do realize you're posting on a liberal site and the majority of us are anti-death penalty?

Just sayin'.

[Daniel537]

55. Since when does being liberal mean you have to be anti-death penalty?

And no i'm not a liberal, i'm a socialist, but i still favor the death penalty. I don't care how many people here oppose it, its my opinion and i'm sticking to it. I don't believe all human life is precious or sacred. There's no value in people who commit heinous crimes like murder or rape, so i have no problem with the state disposing of these worthless cretins.

[Th1onein]

56. "I don't care how many people here oppose it, its my opinion and i'm sticking to it."

Right. Because willful ignorance is always best when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary of your own opinion.

[Pelican]

57. How dare you think that...

No true Scotsman.. I mean Democrat.. I mean Liberal.. I mean Socialist... would ever think such a thing...

[RedCappedBandit]

72. Your justifications are irrelevant.

You may not think there is value in people who commit heinous crimes. Many people are in agreement. But the fact of the matter is that we have, always will have, an imperfect judicial system which will inevitably end up putting innocent people to death. That is intolerable in any civilized society.

[arely staircase]

74. anti-death penalty views are not required at DU

or for being a liberal.

[hrmjustin]

2. She may have overridden her lawyers.

I am against the death penalty, so I don't want to see her die. I think life in jail is a good punishment for her.

[BainsBane]

3. I agree

She should never walk free again.

[hrmjustin]

6. I thought that trial was a joke.

I am just glad the jury got the verdict right. I hope they just send her to jail for life now.

[davidpdx]

49. +1

Make her sit in a cell and think about it. It would be too easy on her to let her have the death penalty.

[Tx4obama]

4. They just said a bit ago on HLN that her lawyers were arguing with her ...

before she did the interview.

[LittleBlue]

5. Very sad

She said in the interview that she would "prefer to die sooner than later" and that "death is the ultimate freedom."

The world just sucks sometimes. I feel sorry for her, even knowing what she's been convicted of doing.

[BainsBane]

7. Really? Not me

She doesn't seem very sympathetic. I don't believe one word she said. I am offended that she feigned being a victim of domestic violence.

[LittleBlue]

11. That's that thing

I haven't followed the case, just read a summary today after the verdict. Reading that she might have been physically and sexually abused, it just made me sad. Especially since she looks a bit emaciated and pale to me.

[BainsBane]

13. She came to that abuse story

after her first several lies collapsed. I don't believe it.

[ellisonz]

17. She's a liar.

There is zero evidence that such a claim was true in any way. If anything, she was the clear abuser engaging in verbal abuse and stalking behavior.

[JI7]

27. the abuse stuff was all lies, she was just making shit up

[bettyellen]

63. she was never abused, it's an excuse for stabbing him 29 times and then shooting him in the face.

she told so many lies, she said on the stand she couldn't keep them all straight. I don't believe for a minute she wants to die.
She is delaying the penalty phase to whip up sympathy and maybe get a different jury empaneled for the next phase. Everything is a manipulation with her.

[alphafemale]

15. She's still trying to manipulate people. I have zero sympathy for her.

And she will always be dangerous. She should be very limited in her contacts and communications with others.

[Tx4obama]

8. I have NO sympathy for her at all. Did you see the photos of Travis with all those wounds?

The knife wounds in his back and on his hands?

The slashed throat?

The bullet hole in his head?

[Maine-ah]

53. the pic of him in the shower

just before he died I think speaks for it's self.

[Daniel537]

10. Damn, i'm glad the jury didn't share your view of her.

This has been her schtick all along. The sympathy card was the only hope she had, and thankfully it didn't work.

[BainsBane]

14. She hasn't followed the trial

and doesn't know much about the case. Not that I know much myself, but I can tell that woman is a sociopathic liar.

[Chan790]

16. I don't.

Just to be clear what she was convicted of...she ambushed her boyfriend in the shower; shot him; stabbed him so many times in the neck, head and chest that she effectively decapitated his corpse; then she slit his throat. She's beyond my capability for sympathy, I want her to get life-without-parole in-part because I think it's harsher than execution.

[ChazII]

18. You're not alone. Your remarks sum up my feelings. n/t

[Beaverhausen]

22. Not having followed the case at all, why do you think she killed him?

I'm serious. The details you gave are the first I heard about what she did. I'm just curious.

[BainsBane]

26. for one she finally admitted it

That and DNA evidence all over the place.

[Beaverhausen]

28. sorry - I meant what was her reason for killing him?

[ellisonz]

31. She's a sociopath and was worried she couldn't control him absolutely...

...and she was mad that he had dumped her before and so if she couldn't have him all to herself no one could have him.

That's about it.

[bettyellen]

64. borderline personality disorder. she was the classic stalker who refused to let go.

and the classic sociopath who needs to control and punish those who don't give her what she wants.

[Generic Brad]

24. Agreed. She deserves life without parole

Even better - life in prison without parole as a non-person. No more interviews. No opportunity for grandstanding for the press. No chance to hear another of her toxic lies. Lock her up and let society outside the penitentiary let her fade from our memory.

[Siwsan]

9. she was overheard in a heated discussion with her lawyers

No doubt they argued against doing the interview. She is just continuing her manipulative behavior pattern. And never forget that she thinks she is the smartest person in the room.

[ellisonz]

12. She's making a very good case for life in prison without parole. n/t

[msanthrope]

19. I tell clients to shut their freakin' mouths when arrested. Think I get listened to? nt

[LittleBlue]

20. No kidding

Never make a statement to the police. Half the time they are just trying to get a story from you so they can nail you for inconsistencies later.

Let your lawyer talk, they can't convict you for a verbal mistake your lawyer makes.

[BainsBane]

23. I've had one brush with the law

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Just after I graduated from college. My roommate was also involved. She kept running her mouth to the cops. I told her several times to shut her mouth and keep quiet, but she wouldn't listen. End result was I got a ticket for a petty misdemeanor, and the charges were dropped at court, while she got a felony conviction that fucked up her life. There was additional evidence against her as well that didn't apply to me, but her talking only made matter worse. Seems to me watching cop shows is enough to teach you to keep your mouth shut, but evidently not.

[msanthrope]

29. David Simon wrote an explanation of Miranda that is used in every decent law school in the country..

You can google the excerpt---

"You are a citizen of a free nation..."

[Fumesucker]

21. Crazy like a fox

That's a pretty slick move to corner the judge/jury, they won't want to give her what she's asking for.

I know nothing at all about the case, just my opinion reading the situation as it's told here on DU.

[BainsBane]

25. I attribute it to narcissism

If it were a clever move, lawyers would approve it. Word is she was fighting with her lawyers before the interview.

[laundry_queen]

45. Yeah.

My general thinking, after hearing about all the little things she had preplanned for making herself look innocent after the murder, thinking all the time she was so smart, I can't help but wonder she thinks she's being so slick trying a little 'reverse psychology' in order to not be put to death.

Personally, I don't want her to be put to death, (I think we should study sociopaths to better understand them, plus I'm anti-death penalty) but I can't help but think of how shocked she'll be when they DO 'grant her wish' and how it won't bother me too much at how upset that will make her.

[2ndAmForComputers]

62. First thing I thought too. Amateur attempt at reverse psychology.

Anyway, my beef is not exactly that specific person X or Y will be killed, but that the death penalty exists at all.

An eventual sentence of life in prison won't make a state any less fucked up. It still enshrines barbarism as a good thing in Law.

[markiv]

30. once someone's been convicted of 1st degree murder...

i kind of dont blame them for having a 'who gives a f--k' attitude

innocent or not, at that point, someone's been on trial for their life for a few years, with eveything on the line, and now they've lost - everything

there's nothing left anyone can do to them, that they're not going to do anyway

what can anyone do to them, for flipping the world the bird at that point?

the public, the media, the state and his family are all going to hate her and relish her life being toast no matter what she does

[BainsBane]

33. she can lose her life

What was the point of that whole weeks long testimony if it wasn't to save her life? She might have thought she would get off, but I'll bet you anything her lawyers didn't think so. They put her up there so the jury would get used to her and be less likely to impose the death penalty.

[markiv]

35. she'll die in prison either way

only a matter of how much time she serves in prison before then

i honestly dont know if i'd care to live, if all of the rest of my life was in prison

(i try to avoid that predicament, by not murdering anyone)

[treestar]

32. Clients are still free agents

They have their own minds. If they want to ignore their lawyer's advice, they can. Lawyers aren't parents.

[H2O Man]

34. More theatrics.

She's feeling very sorry for herself. Not for anyone else. She lacks the ability to even shut her mouth for a brief moment -- upon hearing the verdict she: (1) blamed her lawyers; (2) did this interview, complete with the sick remark about her victim's siblings.

[BainsBane]

38. What did she say about his siblings?

I didn't see that.

[H2O Man]

39. HLN played

a part of her interview today, where she said, "I hope they (siblings) can remember him for who they think he was." As if she knew the "real" Travis, and all the shit she made up was true, and his family didn't know the real Travis.

Perhaps the most toxic dynamic of the trial coverage is her being given a stage to continue her sick attack on this fellow.

[jberryhill]

40. That seemed to be the point

First she killed him, then she went after his family and friends' memories of him.

[BainsBane]

41. even sent flowers to his mother

She's one twisted woman.

[bettyellen]

65. and sent them a twenty page letter- blaming the ninjas for the murder.

that will be published after it's safe to. there's a lot of crazy stuff that was not let in that will come out in the penalty phase or disclosed after it's all over.

[mucifer]

36. I think I would rather have the death penalty than live for decades in a supermax prison.

I think the most horrific cases deserve life in prison. I do think execution is the easy way out.

The reason NOT to have the death penalty is that innocent people could get killed. Innocent people might take years to prove their case.

[stevenleser]

61. I agree. I think I would rather have death than life in prison surrounded by violent felons.

Or in a supermax.

[Gravitycollapse]

37. Deal. But she can only die the same way she killed her victim.

[defacto7]

42. She's playing the power.

She's a sociopath with big issues with power and control. The statement about wanting the death penalty is a way to pull the rug out from under her accusers and the verdict. A perfect example of "I will be in control no matter what." She belongs where she's going... but someone take the microphone away from her; that's her power and her glory.

[BainsBane]

44. I like your explanation

[bettyellen]

69. yesh- that;s why she is trying to be "quotable" with the ultimate freedom thing.

although with her type, isolation might be worse than death. If she had people to fuck over in jail, she'd probably be very happy.

[Nye Bevan]

43. "Please don't fling me into the briar patch!" (nt)

[frogmarch]

48. I almost posted that too!

Yep, she's a wiley one all right. Or thinks she is, anyway.

[CakeGrrl]

46. Give her what she wants.

She was arrogant enough to think she wouldn't be convicted. Who gave her access to a mic?

[BainsBane]

47. The sheriff's office

Headed by Joe Arrapaio.

[Raine]

51. Obvious reverse psychology attempt. nt

[AngryOldDem]

52. I have to agree.

Even though I've not been following this case, whenever I have seen coverage she comes across as being a master manipulator.

I really don't care what happens to her.

[HappyMe]

54. She's full of it.

I would imagine she wants just the reverse of what she says.

I really don't care what happens to her.

[Agony]

58. What she wants does not matter

in this regard

I hope we grow up as a society and ban the death penalty under any and all circumstances.

[duffyduff]

59. She will never get death.

I wish people would quit posting the media bullshit on this board.

If you actually watched the trial instead of HLN and the rest, you would know it was completely opposite of what the liars like Chris Hughes, Maureen Maher, CBS, and all of the rest were peddling.

Those people have blood on their hands. This was no more than a manslaughter/self-defense case but for the desire of a group of Mormons to cover up for one of their own, even if the person was nothing but a Jack Mormon who lied about everything about his life.

He was estranged from his "grieving" brothers and sisters, and those same brothers and sisters never even KNEW Jodi or the the relationship. Yet they got on 48 Hours and tried to claim they just "knew" Jodi did it without knowing her or claiming Travis was a 30-year-old virgin when in fact he was the farthest thing possible from it. He wasn't "tempted" by Jodi Arias, either.

Considering the appalling behavior by the Alexander family inside and outside the courtroom with all of their fundraising crap, it isn't hard to see why Travis had nothing to do with them.

This conviction was a huge injustice, trial by media, and anybody who is concerned about the rights of the accused should be appalled this EVER spun out of control.

The conviction and any death sentence, a certainty here regardless of the total lack of evidence for premeditation and the perjury by Detective Esteban Flores and Medical Examiner Kevin Horn, will cause the case to be overturned on appeal.

By that time, the assholes from HLN, CBS, and the rest will be on to their next flavor of the month.

[bettyellen]

68. ha ha ha, except for the bloody palm print she left along with a trail of lies and her admission of

the crime. Even if they had an argument that caused he to freak out, the minute she slit his throat and went for the gun. Or shot him in the face and then grabbed a knife (to stab him 29 times) it became premeditated when she switched weapons... she decided to take it all the way to murder. Premeditation takes seconds.

[alp227]

60. Bye! N/t

[graywarrior]

66. How about a gig on Dancing With The Stars?

[LisaL]

67. Hopefully, that can be arranged.

[Tom Ripley]

69. Obviously, she believes in the application of the death penalty...

but I do not

[treestar]

73. And it wasn't a deterrent nt

[Jamastiene]

71. Then, she should get life without parole.

I don't think she should get to choose her punishment for the crime she committed. It still bugs me that Timothy McVeigh got what he wanted from beginning to end. He wanted the death penalty and the way I heard it, he was defiant and a total asshole until the very end. They should have changed his sentence to life without parole the minute he said he wanted the death penalty. Am I cruel for feeling that way? Probably. But, let's be honest: Does it bug anyone else that he was such a defiant asshole like that until the very end and got exactly what he wanted?