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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:36 PM May 2013

Cheney slams Obama over Benghazi: ‘We were always ready on 9/11′

Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday lashed out at President Barack Obama’s administration for a “failure of leadership” over an attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans on Sept. 11 of last year, saying that the Bush administration was “always ready on 9/11? — at least, the anniversaries.

At an event to celebrate the launch of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s new book about leadership, Cheney told the Daily Mail‘s David Martosko that the Obama administration “should have been ready before anything ever happened.”

“I mean, it’s North Africa – Libya, where they’ve already had major problems,” he observed. “You know that Al-Qaeda is operating there, and you have some of the other Al-Qaeda-affiliated groups there like Ansar al-Sharia and others.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/08/cheney-slams-obama-over-benghazi-we-were-always-ready-on-911/


puke, vomit

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Cheney slams Obama over Benghazi: ‘We were always ready on 9/11′ (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter May 2013 OP
Really? I didn't notice anybody stopping 9/11 while it was happening. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #1
what he meant was zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #7
Oh, now they claim they were ready on 9/11? CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #2
They were....do you think that "undisclosed location" he hid in materialized out of nowhere? Liberal Veteran May 2013 #14
The full quote is almost as bad. Lasher May 2013 #15
Weasel words - "on 9/11, on the anniversary" - haele May 2013 #80
No, it does not exonerate him. Lasher May 2013 #85
Not only were they not ready, ProSense May 2013 #33
Maybe it was because the were ready. RC May 2013 #81
i agree. DesertFlower May 2013 #56
There is an un-written rule that . . . aggiesal May 2013 #84
Bush/Cheney were in office when the worst terrorist attack on American soil ever happened. AndyA May 2013 #3
FYI: another slang term for a crack pipe is a "glass dick" Victor_c3 May 2013 #8
"Chickenhawk Cheney and I were, like, AWOL and shit on 9/11, so don't blame us." - George AWOL Bush Berlum May 2013 #31
We were ready on 911, except for the time 3000 people died. geek tragedy May 2013 #4
they were ready because they had fighter jets responding to reports of hijackings librechik May 2013 #5
There were two closer fighter jet squadrons. IggleDoer May 2013 #34
yeah. Nothing suspicious there. librechik May 2013 #53
When will this fool just kick the bucket already? Cali_Democrat May 2013 #6
_ randome May 2013 #9
LOL: Cheney and Bushie were hiding on 9/11. Only Gulliani was on tv because FSogol May 2013 #10
"We were always ready on 9/11 to attack Iraq for any reason we could pull out our asses". Liberal Veteran May 2013 #11
They were ready before 9/11 Incitatus May 2013 #12
Must be why 3 American planes got hijacked, 3000+ dead, many more injured and winterpark May 2013 #13
Four American planes jmowreader May 2013 #35
sure DICK MFM008 May 2013 #16
If they were "ready on 9/11" that confirms LIHOP and/or MIHOP TrogL May 2013 #17
Bush = LIHOP + Cheney = MIHOP = WAR PROFITEERS = DEAD PEOPLE and A Reason To Go To IRAQ MagickMuffin May 2013 #23
Stop pointing out the obvious.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #55
I realize that and I stand by my statement };¬) MagickMuffin May 2013 #73
They were ready . . . to exploit the hell out of it. The moment it happened. Sooner. leveymg May 2013 #18
Someday the popular "lucky trifecta exploiters" will whatchamacallit May 2013 #30
Do you mean this Enterprise? Which quadrant or node? leveymg May 2013 #65
But they were never ready for embassy attacks any of the other 364 days of the year. Aristus May 2013 #19
Doesn't count. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #75
Ready? ismnotwasm May 2013 #20
Yeah, and that's why they handled things so smoothly in Iraq and Afghanistan. CBHagman May 2013 #21
they've been warrior1 May 2013 #22
Cheney on the Iraqis reaction to our invasion. Old and In the Way May 2013 #24
Cheney's not dead yet? Arkana May 2013 #25
I usually refrain from grave dancing deutsey May 2013 #48
Fuck off failure man! Rex May 2013 #26
I hope that when I come back later Cracklin Charlie May 2013 #37
Thanks! Me too! Rex May 2013 #38
Does Alcatraz Prison have a cellar that he could be thrown into? Cracklin Charlie May 2013 #42
How about Abu Ghraib? Rex May 2013 #46
Exceedingly foul RepubliCrappage. As usual. Berlum May 2013 #27
What a cruel and bad joke! nt ladjf May 2013 #28
3,000 incinerated human beings shows you weren't ready you torturing murdering Lint Head May 2013 #29
Oh that's rich Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #32
Fuck Cheney and his revisionist history October May 2013 #36
What a sleazy slimey pos. jessie04 May 2013 #39
Oh yeah those m*****F*****s were READY alright.. Cha May 2013 #40
There is no statute of limitations on mass murder jmowreader May 2013 #41
Leaving the nation's most protected airspace unguarded all morning? Blue Owl May 2013 #43
Oh, I see magellan May 2013 #44
A war criminal says what? Asshole. nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #45
fuck the lying criminal bastard spanone May 2013 #47
I think he is trying to tell us something. Everything was ready on 9/11 for him. rhett o rick May 2013 #49
Or a sudden brain tumor. Rex May 2013 #52
Good grief, did The Dick of Death really just say that?! City Lights May 2013 #50
Can't post what I'm thinking Arugula Latte May 2013 #51
Gotta say, that was "unfortunate" wording truebluegreen May 2013 #54
Who cares what that old dildo thinks (no offense to actual dildos) kysrsoze May 2013 #57
"Sir, do those orders still stand?" Junkdrawer May 2013 #58
So 9/11/01 doesn't count? TroglodyteScholar May 2013 #59
Oh, BushCo was READY, all right. Ready to tell NORAD to stand down. Ready with "My Pet Goat." Ready WinkyDink May 2013 #60
People think that folks that come to the MIHOP conclusion come to it lightly.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #63
Thank you. As you say, nobody wants to think of being ruled by such evil. But the cover-ups, WinkyDink May 2013 #70
I've had EXACTLY those thoughts. Junkdrawer May 2013 #72
There were 11 embassy attacks during the Bush administration AgingAmerican May 2013 #61
Ahem. August 9th PDB. Mr. David May 2013 #62
Darth- MoreGOPoop May 2013 #64
Burn in hell, Cheney Politicub May 2013 #66
Isn't that ass dead yet? BlueDemKev May 2013 #67
What information did Bush/Cheney have about 9/11, and when did they have it? blkmusclmachine May 2013 #68
Oh, that's funny! Only 10 attacks and 60 dead! Festivito May 2013 #69
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #71
Fuck off, Cheney. Zoeisright May 2013 #74
The neo-cons were ready to exploit 9/11 as they knew something was going to happen. Dawson Leery May 2013 #76
Uh........what.did.he.say? Proud Liberal Dem May 2013 #77
Cheney rso May 2013 #78
HA!!!!! no_hypocrisy May 2013 #79
If they actually had been ready for 9/11... Initech May 2013 #82
Obviously, Dick, that's all those people died and buildings got destroyed that day. mulsh May 2013 #83

Lasher

(27,637 posts)
15. The full quote is almost as bad.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:52 PM
May 2013
Dick Cheney: Benghazi Attack Revealed 'Failure Of Leadership'

"When we were there, on our watch, we were always ready on 9/11, on the anniversary," Cheney said. "We always anticipated they were coming for us, especially in that part of the world ... I cannot understand why they weren't ready to go."

http://labs.huffingtonpost.com/highlights/quote/8828406/

I wish they would have asked him how he feels about having intentionally lied us into the invasion of Iraq. I'm certain that he feels no remorse whatever.

haele

(12,676 posts)
80. Weasel words - "on 9/11, on the anniversary" -
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:25 PM
May 2013

Okay, they were ready whenever the anniversary came around. So by their logic, since the counselate attack happened on a 9/11 anniversary, the current administration must not have been, like them "always ready on 9/11" and it was a failure of leadership that an attack happened on the anniversary.

Quite convoluted. But it does "technically" relieve Darth Cheney from admitting the Shrub administration totally ignored the situational awareness and warnings that preceeded the 9/11/2001 attacks.

Haele

Lasher

(27,637 posts)
85. No, it does not exonerate him.
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:53 PM
May 2013

Quite contrarily, it reaffirms his status as the most despicable hypocrite who has ever lived.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
81. Maybe it was because the were ready.
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
May 2013

They knew and did nothing? Where did the stand down order really come from in Tora Bora?

General Tommy Franks, then in charge of Central Command (CentCom), made the decision not to send in reinforcements. He declined to comment. Other colleagues reject the idea it was a mistake.

"You could have waited longer and put troops in. In that same amount of time, Bin Laden could have left," argues General Richard Myers, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14190032

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
84. There is an un-written rule that . . .
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:52 PM
May 2013

previous administrations don't complement or criticize the current administration.

Basically, don't throw rocks in glass houses.

But these a$$wads (McIdiot/McEvil) could care less. They'll criticize the
Obama Administration if it scores political points for anyone with an (R)
next to their name.

When will this guy shut his pie-hole?

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
3. Bush/Cheney were in office when the worst terrorist attack on American soil ever happened.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:40 PM
May 2013

They weren't ready for it...or were they?

What about all those embassy attacks during the time Bush/Cheney were in the White House? Did they know about them, and just let them happen, even though they were "always ready" to deal with them?

Put the crack pipe down, Dick.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
8. FYI: another slang term for a crack pipe is a "glass dick"
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:43 PM
May 2013

I dunno. That comment somehow seemed applicable to this conversation :leaving:

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
31. "Chickenhawk Cheney and I were, like, AWOL and shit on 9/11, so don't blame us." - George AWOL Bush
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:27 PM
May 2013

"We were totally ready to go AWOL. As usual. We are republicans, and so have multiple deferments from responsibility."

- George AWOL Bush (R)

librechik

(30,676 posts)
5. they were ready because they had fighter jets responding to reports of hijackings
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:40 PM
May 2013

within 45 -to 90 minutes. What?

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
34. There were two closer fighter jet squadrons.
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
May 2013

However they were both given the day off (standown), and were unable to respond.

Why was that???

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
10. LOL: Cheney and Bushie were hiding on 9/11. Only Gulliani was on tv because
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:43 PM
May 2013

Al Qaeda destroyed his playpen and he had no where to meet his mistress.

winterpark

(168 posts)
13. Must be why 3 American planes got hijacked, 3000+ dead, many more injured and
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:50 PM
May 2013

a national landmark got obliterated. Way to be ready assjack

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
35. Four American planes
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
May 2013

The biggest atrocity no one discusses: the command post exercise in the Pentagon that morning. There is a very strict Department of Defense regulation that says you will not under any circumstance use the name of any real-world entity in an exercise scenario. At the National Training Center the bad guys were Krasnovians, in the Army Intelligence School the enemy country was Romanoff, placenames were fictional, and so on and so forth. The reason should be obvious to all: if the notional event in the exercise happened in real life, you didn't want people to think the real event was exercise traffic. The 9/11 CPX involved a terrorist attack in New York and the bad guys were named Al Qaeda. So...when the real-world bad shit started happening, the players thought they were hearing exercise traffic.

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
23. Bush = LIHOP + Cheney = MIHOP = WAR PROFITEERS = DEAD PEOPLE and A Reason To Go To IRAQ
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:03 PM
May 2013

I think this about sums it up!

MagickMuffin

(15,952 posts)
73. I realize that and I stand by my statement };¬)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:24 PM
May 2013

I calls them like I sees them. Whether anyone wants to fight me is not something I will indulge in.

If there would have been an honest investigation instead of how evidence was literally bulldozed over (ahem covered up) there will never be proof positive what really happened.

And on another note we as Americans will never ever see the light of day what Bush and Cheney testimonies, that I might add they both testified together. Bush had to have his handler there.

So, if Dick wants to claim they were "ready for 9-11, let him also address that Bush stayed in a classroom while being read to by school children while terrorist were attacking this country. And the lame-ass excuse that he "didn't want to frighten the children" while his handlers were preparing a make shift room for him to address the country and allowing children as his backdrop really shows that they were being disingenuous at the most about scaring the children!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
18. They were ready . . . to exploit the hell out of it. The moment it happened. Sooner.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:57 PM
May 2013

Do the orders still stand, Mr. Cheney?

Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission about his experience in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as American Airlines flight 77 approached the Pentagon was not included in the 9/11 Commission Report.[4] In one colloquy testified by Mineta, the vice president refers to orders concerning the plane approaching the Pentagon:

There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

— Norman Mineta, [5]

Commissioner Lee Hamilton queried if the order was to shoot down the plane, to which Mineta replied that he did not know that specifically.[5] Source: Norman Mineta Wiki

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
19. But they were never ready for embassy attacks any of the other 364 days of the year.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:58 PM
May 2013

Which might account for all of the deadly embassy attacks B*sh & Dickhead are responsible for.



Oh hey! And look: One of them happened on September 12th. So what was it, Dick? At midnight on September 11th, 2006, you said: "Okay, they didn't hit us! Everybody stand down!"?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
75. Doesn't count.
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:53 PM
May 2013

Most of those dead were brown furriners', not blessed US Citizens.

(Technically true that most of them aren't Americans, but goddamn, I can't believe the justifications I get out of these motherfuckers when they get caught in hypocrisy)

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
21. Yeah, and that's why they handled things so smoothly in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:59 PM
May 2013

Yeah, the Bush administration's preparedness explains why both Afghanistan and Iraq remained unresolved wars with mounting casualties, the first for more or less the entire Bush presidency, the second for all of the second term and part of the first.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
24. Cheney on the Iraqis reaction to our invasion.
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:14 PM
May 2013

"Now, I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/cheneymeetthepress.htm MTP 3/16/2003

No, I don't think I'll take any Cheney pronouncements on anything as fact.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
48. I usually refrain from grave dancing
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:01 PM
May 2013

but in this asshole's case, I will probably make an exception.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
26. Fuck off failure man!
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:17 PM
May 2013

We are DONE WITH YOU! Fail off to a cave somewhere and don't ever let us hear from you again! Thanks asshole!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
37. I hope that when I come back later
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:37 PM
May 2013

This thread will be filled to the brim with delicious comments just like yours.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. Thanks! Me too!
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:41 PM
May 2013

The tame replies have me kinda bummed out...I mean we are talking about THE man that made, 'go fuck yourself' a household term! The guy that shot his lawyer in the face and the lawyer apologized for being in the way of Cheney's bullets! Cannot be tame about someone like that!

That is like calling the Wicked Witch from the West, a misunderstood trickster.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
42. Does Alcatraz Prison have a cellar that he could be thrown into?
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:47 PM
May 2013

No, wait...that would be too sumptuous.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. How about Abu Ghraib?
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

I was going to say Guantanamo...but that was too easy. Let him get the same treatment he approved of at Abu Ghraib, I say.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
32. Oh that's rich
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:29 PM
May 2013

What part of "I believe the memo was titled Bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States" does this cumstain not understand?

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
41. There is no statute of limitations on mass murder
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:45 PM
May 2013

Would it be a violation of the Fourth Amendment to sentence Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft and Rice to the form of seppuku that doesn't end in beheading?

Blue Owl

(50,494 posts)
43. Leaving the nation's most protected airspace unguarded all morning?
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:47 PM
May 2013

Is that what Dick calls "being ready"?

magellan

(13,257 posts)
44. Oh, I see
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:49 PM
May 2013

This is all about diverting attention from the 9/11 disaster he and Bush** allowed to happen after not heeding multiple advance warnings about an imminent domestic attack using planes. If they can successfully pin Benghazi on Obama for similar reasons in the public's mind, then they can move away from denying they were incompetent to pointing the finger back at the Dem President.

Not that I'm surprised, but how obvious and petty. Too bad for them the only public that's buying this witch hunt is the usual 28-30% deadenders who support the cons no matter what.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
49. I think he is trying to tell us something. Everything was ready on 9/11 for him.
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

The highjackers were trained, DimSon was in Texas, Air Force was away on training, the anthrax was ready. Cheney is dying (pun intended) to tell us that he should get the credit for 9/11 and not some (fill in your own racist expletive).

But he must be careful. If he talks too much, he might get a special brain operation next time he goes to the hospital.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
54. Gotta say, that was "unfortunate" wording
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:22 PM
May 2013

if you are a Bushie apologist that is.

Way to highlight the truth, Dickie!

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
59. So 9/11/01 doesn't count?
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:46 PM
May 2013

How is this gaping a-hole still roaming free, and why is anyone still listening to a thing he says?

He should be grateful that he wasnt tarred and feathered.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
60. Oh, BushCo was READY, all right. Ready to tell NORAD to stand down. Ready with "My Pet Goat." Ready
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:48 PM
May 2013

with the implosion of WTC-7.

Don't get me started.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
63. People think that folks that come to the MIHOP conclusion come to it lightly....
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:56 PM
May 2013

I wrestled for 4 - 5 years with a "The Players Got Played" scenario. Check the archives. It was only with OVERWHELMING evidence to the contrary that I reluctantly had to admit it was a MIHOP thing.

Most of the reluctance was that I didn't want to live in a world where such evil was in control. But it is what it is.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
70. Thank you. As you say, nobody wants to think of being ruled by such evil. But the cover-ups,
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:13 PM
May 2013

even if we pretend they just began with LHOswald, are and have been scary.

Funny; most of us Democrats are quite willing to acknowledge our govt's murderous depradations IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

But evil-doers are without boundaries.

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
62. Ahem. August 9th PDB.
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:55 PM
May 2013

Bin Laden determined to attack America.

The state of US was certainly not in a ready state.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
66. Burn in hell, Cheney
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
May 2013

I don't believe in the place, but I had to say it.

When I don't think it's possible to loathe someone more, Cheney opens his ugly mug again and proves me wrong.

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
76. The neo-cons were ready to exploit 9/11 as they knew something was going to happen.
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:59 PM
May 2013

Ashcroft stopped flying commercial airlines in July 2001.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97179

Dozens of warnings were given that a large attack was imminent and commercial aircraft were going to be involved.

rso

(2,273 posts)
78. Cheney
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:07 PM
May 2013

I thought Cheney was supposed to be smart. Can't believe he would say that, leaving himself completely open to retorts such as: " we were always ready, except on 9/11/01, despite the existence of many warning signs".

Initech

(100,102 posts)
82. If they actually had been ready for 9/11...
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:45 PM
May 2013

They wouldn't have ignored the CIA's clear and concise warning that a terror threat on US soil was imminent and Bush wouldn't have spent that morning reading "My Pet Goat" to elementary school children. They'd have had the FAA alerted and had F14s patrolling all corners of New York and DC. Get real, Cheney.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
83. Obviously, Dick, that's all those people died and buildings got destroyed that day.
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:52 PM
May 2013

Why on earth does any one pay any attention to what this sick piece of shit has to say?

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