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Caller just on Stephanie Miller: "Charles Ramsey didn't need a gun to be a hero..." (Original Post) baldguy May 2013 OP
the other hero, Angel Cordero riverwalker May 2013 #1
Wow. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #3
Why? nt mimi85 May 2013 #18
My father always said to be sure to give proper credit to those who deserve it. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #19
thank-you for reminding us leftyohiolib May 2013 #5
This must be the man Ramsey spoke of in last night's interview with Anderson Cooper. eShirl May 2013 #7
I think that's right. I'm glad Mr. Ramsey mentioned his part in things. nolabear May 2013 #8
Too Late, apparently Heather MC May 2013 #26
Thanks for this detail. freshwest May 2013 #16
Could Be Here Illegal DallasNE May 2013 #21
I thought of that too. the first interview I saw of any of this was with Cha May 2013 #25
I intend to repeat this...often. nt duhneece May 2013 #2
Armed only with a half-eaten McDonald's Happy Meal LanternWaste May 2013 #4
That was true. He said that he didn't want the reward money because he had a job. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #6
This is a real good man who has his heart in the right place madokie May 2013 #11
Yes he sure seems to have a good heart. You ever notice people who really aren't southernyankeebelle May 2013 #12
Seems its more times than not madokie May 2013 #13
I learned a valuable lesson. I had a neighbor who had the roof fixed. They did a southernyankeebelle May 2013 #17
I just love Stephanie Miller. retired rooster May 2013 #9
so true samsingh May 2013 #10
Wat To Go Charles! colsohlibgal May 2013 #14
Excellent point by a clear thinking caller. The word goes forth. freshwest May 2013 #15
Well, think about that statement for a moment... Scootaloo May 2013 #20
+1000 baldguy May 2013 #22
yep! oldandhappy May 2013 #23
So very well said. nt redqueen May 2013 #24

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
1. the other hero, Angel Cordero
Wed May 8, 2013, 10:09 AM
May 2013

the first to respond to Amanda's struggles to get out, he ran across the street to help her, began to kick the door, which caught Charles Ramsey's attention, who then followed. He does not speak english.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/angel-cordero-claims-he-was-first-to-help-cleveland-women-not-charles-ramsey

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
3. Wow.
Wed May 8, 2013, 10:15 AM
May 2013

Well, it's great to get the story straight. But, I wish this information would have been known in the beginning.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
19. My father always said to be sure to give proper credit to those who deserve it.
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:11 PM
May 2013

If there were two heroes they both should have been recognized.

eShirl

(18,503 posts)
7. This must be the man Ramsey spoke of in last night's interview with Anderson Cooper.
Wed May 8, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

Fitting that his name is Angel.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
8. I think that's right. I'm glad Mr. Ramsey mentioned his part in things.
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

That interview with AC was outstanding. What a guy. I hope the press doesn't mess with him to the point of it being harmful.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
26. Too Late, apparently
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:06 AM
May 2013

Mr.Ramsey, has a record of Domestic abuse, and back in 90's spent 6 months in jail because of it. That's what they have found so far

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
21. Could Be Here Illegal
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:38 PM
May 2013

And that would explain why he didn't want to step forward -- as could other things.

If so, the Immigration Service better not start deportation proceedings.

Cha

(297,652 posts)
25. I thought of that too. the first interview I saw of any of this was with
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:05 AM
May 2013

Angel through an interpretor.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. Armed only with a half-eaten McDonald's Happy Meal
Wed May 8, 2013, 10:18 AM
May 2013

Armed only with a half-eaten McDonald's Happy Meal.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. That was true. He said that he didn't want the reward money because he had a job.
Wed May 8, 2013, 10:51 AM
May 2013

He said to give it to the girls.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. This is a real good man who has his heart in the right place
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

He didn't rehearse what he was going to say it was straight from his big heart. What a guy.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
12. Yes he sure seems to have a good heart. You ever notice people who really aren't
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:38 PM
May 2013

wealthy always seems to do the right things when it comes to helping others.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. Seems its more times than not
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:38 PM
May 2013

I know back when I used to do contract work it was the working man/woman who never failed to pay me sometimes they'd even try to before I'd complete the project. Never once did what I'd call the rich person who do that. most times they'd want me to wait until the end of the month or some such shit or in a couple cases try to beat me out of my pay where as the working stiff couldn't pay me fast enough. That was always the case.

This gentleman here showed the world what he is made of. He might not be the best educated or whatever but he is the bestest of the best where it counts. I tear up just thinking about him and the goodness in his big o heart. What a guy.
He is what Hero's are made of and that is fact.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. I learned a valuable lesson. I had a neighbor who had the roof fixed. They did a
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:48 PM
May 2013

good job and he recommend him to us. We met with him and gave us a reasonable price. So we gave him the money to go get the supplies. Well we a had for a couple of days. We touched base and that was the last time we saw him or our money. My neighbor felt terrible but I didn't blame him. I called the police who were familiar with this guy. He was a drug addict. But when I met him he was fine. I will never see my money again. But I learned never to give the full amount out again.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. Wat To Go Charles!
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:05 PM
May 2013

Courage to do what was needed, to help a fellow human being, rock on "bro". Not only is he a legitimate hero, McDonald's already tweeted that they would be in touch. To his credit, even though he first suspected this was a domestic situation, he still went to Amanda's rescue.

Oh, how I hope these evil cretins get to be Bubba's chew toy in prison. The Dejesus girl was 14 when she was snatched, that won't play well in the Big House.

I'm curious as to how far the clues will lead, I believe I heard that one of the ladies told police there had been a 4th girl there, who soon disappeared.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. Well, think about that statement for a moment...
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:29 PM
May 2013

And then, think back to all the many gun goobers you may have dealt with.

It always struck me that absent their guns, these people are terribly afraid of just about everything. There is no situation that, to them, does not warrant being armed and dangerous. And htey will call you a fool for not agreeing, because don't you know how dangerous the world is, and only an idiot would face it without overwhelming firepower.

In other words, they're mostly people without courage, trying to make up that deficit with threat displays.

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