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Since we can't fix teh stupid, seems to me we have to figure out the best way to work around it in order to limit the damage from teh stupid, and then put in safeguards to protect us from teh stupid.
Elizabeth Warren for President, 2016. Genuine Democratic Party veto power.
For example, a real Democrat in the White House can singlehandedly prevent any further cuts to Social Security during her tenure.
We've created this icon for social programs in America that started with Reagan's "welfare queen" (boy, he could turn a phrase, eh?). At it's core, a key attribute is that they are participating in the country's social safety net because they are LAZY.
They're too lazy to go out and get a job ('cuz you know there's just so many empty positions waiting to be filled).
They're too lazy to get up off of their couches and leave their video games behind.
They're too lazy to show up for whatever job they did have before they got fired.
What's getting missed in all this is that all that physically lazy stuff - true or not (we don't have to argue with that) - doesn't matter when compared to the intellectually lazy that the political right is instilling in this country.
You don't like science and all it's facts...that's ok...we have the opinion of creationism...much easier for your lazy mind.
You don't like climate change and all it's facts...that's ok...we have the opinion of left wing conspiracy...and besides...it's snowing out.
You don't like wealth redistribution and all it's fact...that's ok...we have the opinion that your real enemy isn't the top 1%...it's the bottom 25% and if you could just demolish them a little more your life will be ok.
There are so many facts available in these discussions but they require some semblance of reasonable intellect, thought, and logic. As long as you think the world is 5000 years old and women have some voodoo mind-control over their reproductive system - you can't sit at the table and have a conversation about facts. I don't even care if you agree, at least start with the facts. I'm convinced that if Obama stood up at the State of the Union with a gavel in his hand and said "sure as I drop this it will hit the floor" - the right would assert that the muslin president was forcing us to follow laws not enumerated by the founders. Yeah - they left gravity out.
And it's much easier to dumb down America to their level than it is for them to rise up to America's past intellectual capability. Sheesh guys - this is the county that put a man on the moon (and brought them back) using less computer capability than what's available today on the cheapest iPhone. You had people who could to it and you had leaders that understood what smart could accomplish.
The reason intellectually lazy is so much more damaging then physical lazy --- the first becomes hereditary and can continue for generations. Once stupid infects the gene pool to some tipping point, we're f*ed.
To be clear, a lot of kids (including my own) are smarter than their parents. I think that's because many parents know what they don't know and they don't confuse fact with opinion. This confusion is what I mean when I say "the stupid".
Sorry - long day already dealing with the stupid.
Response to amerciti001 (Reply #44)
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #71)
Your point is that most "stupid" people do tend to have a "conservative" bent in their thinking. Case in point; while sitting in a McDonald's trying to enjoy a sausage biscuit and hash brown, there where two womens sitting not far away having "bible study" and was expressing there views to verses that they were "studying?", when one expressed her view on science and how those people that believed in "science" were very much"ungodly"
ok), and they both made statements that showed that they were either out of touch or just plain stupid!?, and all of it had that mean "conservative" narrative.
Well, after sitting not that far away, over hearing this ranting based on biblical discourse ( amazing), I decided that I had enough of the ignorant talk, and simply got up and left, wrapping the remains of my food back into the bag, to take with me and enjoy elsewhere.
I gave it some thought and was surprised that either of them could read.
About a week later, at this same McDonald's, I was at the counter ordering when I noticed to (white) women standing at the door and realized it was those same two from about a week earlier, I had this order to go.
It just goes back to what I said about one definition of conservative being moderately cautious. In finding the right partner, that means waiting to find out if you think he or she is REALLY the right one before marrying. Democrats divorce less? So they are conservative about jumping into marriage. Good for us! Republicans are the radicals here. They claim (falsely, but what else is new) that it is virtuous to wait until marriage before having sex. Enough of them apparently do, marry the wrong partner and get divorced. WTF did they expect?
Here's a fabulous first-hand of what misery that brings: http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/my-big-virginity-mistake?akid=10410.222853.O9dCV0&rd=1&src=newsletter836553&t=6
As for me, I wasn't looking for clones 
Just my bumbling attempt at making a point.
Well said 
there is English translation sub titles in this video. Did you not see them?
The 26% are the people that supported George Bush when he left office. And people who continue to elect douchebag Senators like Rand Paul and Mark Sanford. 
and it's up to them to prove to me that they are not.
I have found with this very simple outlook, my life has become extraordinarily easier.
Cheers! 
...but most stupid people are conservatives." -- John Stuart Mill
Should be a poster hung on walls everywhere. Seriously. Thank you!
totally.
