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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:29 AM May 2013

The First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun Is Here

Defense Distributed, a group focused on making easily printable weapons, has succeed.

It made a handgun using a 3D-printer, according to Andy Greenberg at Forbes, who was given early access to the process.

Defense Distributed calls its gun the "Liberator."

The gun is made of sixteen pieces each of which was "printed with a Stratasys Dimension SST printer in ABS plastic, with the exception of a single nail that’s used as a firing pin," Greenberg reports. (That just means it was printed with plastic, and a nail was added.)


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-first-entirely-3d-printed-gun-is-here-2013-5

More like a traditional zip gun than a Glock.
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The First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun Is Here (Original Post) FarCenter May 2013 OP
Whoa, it needs a metal piece inserted so metal detectors will see it... dkf May 2013 #1
You don't think the ammo could be detected? Bandit May 2013 #24
And there you go. MineralMan May 2013 #2
creative intelligence cant be regulated galileoreloaded May 2013 #5
Sure it can. Just ban all plastic guns. Make it a crime of 10 years in prison to manufacture one nt geek tragedy May 2013 #21
or ceramic, or glass, or carbon fiber or......... galileoreloaded May 2013 #25
So sending an MP3 to a friend is against the law and subject to massive fines and imprisonment.. tridim May 2013 #6
Surely this must have a metal barrel or sleeve of some sort? justanidea May 2013 #3
Look at the thickness of that very short barrel. MineralMan May 2013 #7
There is probably no rifling (at least after the first shot) so that would be a problem FarCenter May 2013 #13
Why would that be a problem. MineralMan May 2013 #27
I don't think it is designed to be durable -- it is more in the line of a disposable weapon FarCenter May 2013 #9
How could that possibly be safe? surrealAmerican May 2013 #4
Doesn't matter. tridim May 2013 #8
And the biggest users will be terrorists & criminals. baldguy May 2013 #10
Wait, wait, but the gun nuts always say that plastic guns are technologically impossible, DanTex May 2013 #11
Well to be fair, back in 1988 when the law banning them was passed, justanidea May 2013 #16
When it was banned, some companies had announced that they had the materials DanTex May 2013 #17
I am by no means a gun hater... actslikeacarrot May 2013 #12
People have been making zip guns for years -- just google for how-to videos FarCenter May 2013 #14
I know about zip guns... actslikeacarrot May 2013 #15
Soon as one of these is used Shankapotomus May 2013 #18
Junk guns, we gave then out during WWII use once and its done... Historic NY May 2013 #19
Will the NRA host the CAD files on it website? nt geek tragedy May 2013 #20
Poisoned blow darts would probably work better if you really wanted to kill someone. hunter May 2013 #22
ABS plastic? Not exactly the most durable material IDemo May 2013 #23
Interesting. ZombieHorde May 2013 #26
Freaky. (no text) Quantess May 2013 #28
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. Whoa, it needs a metal piece inserted so metal detectors will see it...
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:36 AM
May 2013

Defense Distributed also inserts a strip of metal into the gun to make sure metal detectors pick it up.
But, as Greenberg points out the people that print out the design might not be inclined to put metal strips in their guns, thus making them much harder to detect.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-first-entirely-3d-printed-gun-is-here-2013-5#ixzz2SEiYKXFz

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. And there you go.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:36 AM
May 2013

Not very durable, but it will fire a few rounds before needing replacement. Inaccurate, no doubt, but close-up, that won't matter.

So, they're going to distribute the files that let anyone print a copy. Wonderful...

 

galileoreloaded

(2,571 posts)
25. or ceramic, or glass, or carbon fiber or.........
Fri May 3, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

we either grow past our biological humanity or we all kill each other. just life. don't be so scared.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. So sending an MP3 to a friend is against the law and subject to massive fines and imprisonment..
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:52 AM
May 2013

But sending a death machine file to a potential terrorist is not.

Makes perfect sense.. If you're insane.

 

justanidea

(291 posts)
3. Surely this must have a metal barrel or sleeve of some sort?
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:46 AM
May 2013

Id imagine even the heat from just .22 rounds would destroy a plastic barrel after 2 or 3 shots.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Look at the thickness of that very short barrel.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:56 AM
May 2013

It will only last a few shots, but this is a single-shot weapon, and is basically a throwaway, one-time weapon. The barrel is strong enough and short enough not to be destroyed by the pressure of the cartridge when it is fired. Accuracy will be terrible, but that's beside the point. It's designed to be used in a close situation.

It is an assassin's firearm, and that is all it is good for.

If ever used, it is unlikely that it will be reloaded anyhow.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
27. Why would that be a problem.
Fri May 3, 2013, 12:33 PM
May 2013

Accuracy is not the point of the design of that weapon. With a 1" long barrel, it's not even an issue. The pistol is designed to be fired at very close range. No rifling is required for that purpose. You are missing the point of the weapon. It's not designed for durability or accuracy. It is designed to wound or kill someone at point blank range.

Just like any homebrew zip gun. No zip gun has a rifled barrel.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. I don't think it is designed to be durable -- it is more in the line of a disposable weapon
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:02 AM
May 2013

You might be able to use a piece from carbon fiber golf club shaft as a tube to improve durability of the barrel, while still being non-metallic and non-magnetic.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
4. How could that possibly be safe?
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:49 AM
May 2013

Wouldn't the plastic melt and fail to protect the person who fires the thing?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
8. Doesn't matter.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:56 AM
May 2013

They want their untraceable plastic death machines no matter what. It's their right!!!!!1111

This isn't about safety, it's about crazy people worshiping lethal tools.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
10. And the biggest users will be terrorists & criminals.
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:06 AM
May 2013

The people who design this & champion its distribution this are at the same level as producers of child porn, and should be treated as such by society.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
11. Wait, wait, but the gun nuts always say that plastic guns are technologically impossible,
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:07 AM
May 2013

and the whole idea was invented by liberals as an excuse to ban something?

 

justanidea

(291 posts)
16. Well to be fair, back in 1988 when the law banning them was passed,
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:25 AM
May 2013

It was impossible.

Even now, it kind of still is. I mean sure you could make a gun that can fire maybe 3 shots before falling apart but thats not much of a gun.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
17. When it was banned, some companies had announced that they had the materials
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:30 AM
May 2013

science available to be able to do so. So congress banned them. Which is the right time to ban them: before any are actually manufactured. Otherwise the gun nuts will stockpile them and the NRA will claim that there's no point in banning them because they are already out there.

Also, if you can 3D print a gun that can fire 3 shots, surely with an an actual factory and access to modern materials technology, you can build a much better one.

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
12. I am by no means a gun hater...
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:08 AM
May 2013

...but I have an issue with this. To me, when you make a decision to purchase a gun you are making a commitment to owning a weapon and everything that goes with it. Sattfe handling, proper storage, weapon safety rules and the whole nine yards. My two issues with is is criminals could have access to guns that were made to throw away, and idiots who shouldn't be around a butter knife thinking "I'm bored I think I will print off a gun this weekend and screw around." And the technology is only going to get better. Am I overreacting? Maybe, but I don't think so.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. People have been making zip guns for years -- just google for how-to videos
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:18 AM
May 2013

And making pretty good guns is a matter of having access to some steel and a machine shop. The difficult part is rifling the barrel, but if you are happy with a smoothbore or have a barrel from an old weapon...

Guns are centuries old technology, and many modern one were designed to be made quickly, in high volume, by untrained people using fairly simple machine tools. For example, the AK-47.

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
15. I know about zip guns...
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:22 AM
May 2013

...and I'm not even worried about this gun right now, I am more concerned with what it will be in a few years. This think looks like a toy or a crappy scanner you would see at the supermarket. I just hope the creater decides not to put the CAD files out there for anyone to use.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
18. Soon as one of these is used
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:34 AM
May 2013

in a mass killing or gets past a metal detector at an airport and is used to hijack a plane, that should rachet up the gun debate to a fever pitch.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
22. Poisoned blow darts would probably work better if you really wanted to kill someone.
Fri May 3, 2013, 10:47 AM
May 2013

These 3D-Printed guns are just another fetish object for the gun worshipers.

Little do they know a 3D-printed bobblehead Jesus is more powerful than any gun.

When God is on your side, you win!

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
23. ABS plastic? Not exactly the most durable material
Fri May 3, 2013, 11:01 AM
May 2013

Needless to say, these guns won't be handed down from one generation to the next (except maybe as a LOL item).

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