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"It is a fact." (Original Post) babylonsister May 2013 OP
" It is a Fact!" sheshe2 May 2013 #1
So, should the Democrats and the President have acted accordingly... kentuck May 2013 #3
What would you consider 'acted accordingly'? nt babylonsister May 2013 #7
Maybe not so conciliatory? kentuck May 2013 #13
I believe that the President only appears to be conciliatory fasttense May 2013 #26
You posed the issues well libdude May 2013 #28
You've pretty much said it all with your post. EOTE May 2013 #35
Strong man, tells it like it is. He was great at the DNC last year. freshwest May 2013 #21
I love our Gov. sheshe2 May 2013 #22
yes Skittles May 2013 #2
well Mr. Patrick why don't you ask your friend Mr. Obama to start doing so, early and often? msongs May 2013 #4
Obama has been doing that. mercymechap May 2013 #5
he has been buying them steaks Enrique May 2013 #10
He's tried just about everything - mercymechap May 2013 #11
the GOoPers MUST make obama the LAST black president. pansypoo53219 May 2013 #6
right...and that, to me has always driven me especially crazy BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #9
Somehow, I think his race has nothing to do with it. Cracklin Charlie May 2013 #20
Hey, I agree, and nice to see you here. nt babylonsister May 2013 #24
The Republicans did that to themselves when the ran Mittens.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #31
+1,000 freshwest May 2013 #23
I agree. This is why they put the screws to everything treestar May 2013 #27
That is a fact! Kath1 May 2013 #8
You are on fire today! DevonRex May 2013 #12
Hey, babylonsister May 2013 #39
The GOP: America's #1 domestic foe. Jamaal510 May 2013 #14
Since, at least, 1929. xtraxritical May 2013 #30
Thank You Gov. Patrick for saying it loud & clear on Sun. morning news show & posting it on the web! hue May 2013 #15
Right on... ReRe May 2013 #18
Yep. It's on the table now. The Repubs have put their party above their country Honeycombe8 May 2013 #16
The Republican goal is to trash the U.S. economy and destroy the middle class. AdHocSolver May 2013 #17
Yeah, Rah, Anti-Republican Crusaders!!!! ReRe May 2013 #19
Gov Patrick has the President's Cha May 2013 #25
they hate the black man in the white house spanone May 2013 #29
If I was Obama every time I was asked an econ question I'd mention this, every single time uponit7771 May 2013 #32
I like Gov. Deval Patrick. timdog44 May 2013 #33
Slowing down the economy to harm Obama's reelection prospects is bad enough. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #34
In a nutshell... babylonsister May 2013 #36
k and r Berlum May 2013 #37
The GOP needs to be stopped. They stand for nothing but absolute greed, corruption, and lies. Initech May 2013 #38
That needs to be called out, and President Obama is to be thanked for saying this out loud in JDPriestly May 2013 #40
K&R. pacalo May 2013 #41

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
3. So, should the Democrats and the President have acted accordingly...
Wed May 1, 2013, 08:23 PM
May 2013

with that information before them? Just asking, not criticizing.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
13. Maybe not so conciliatory?
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:39 PM
May 2013

or compromising? If someone wants to shoot me, I sure as hell am not going to give them more bullets...

I don't mean to be critical. I mean this in a constructive way. People get angry sometimes when they don't agree with you.

But the President is too good to a fault. He wants to govern and the Republicans want to play politics. He wants to solve problems and they want to clog up the system. They are at loggerheads and never shall the twain meet.

Therefore, what are his options? Piecemeal legislation? Give the Repubs the Air Traffic Control funds and maybe they will give him Meals on Wheels? But they already have the ATC's so when can he expect the Meals on Wheels" Or Headstart?

Is it wrong to point this out? Or does this make people angry and say that you are just looking for something to criticize the President about? I think this is something that needs to be discussed and I thank you for making your other post about suggestions for the President?

I hope we can agree not to call each other names and work toward something we can all agree upon. But maybe I am a lot like the President?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
26. I believe that the President only appears to be conciliatory
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:40 AM
May 2013

While it is really what he wants to do all along. He said he wanted a public option in the health care debate but never even asked the supporters of a public option to the table to be heard.

He said he wanted to raise the cap on SS but never even proposed such an idea in ANY of his speeches.

He said that he wanted Gitmo closed and signed an Executive Order ordering it done. It was blocked by congress and he just forgot about it.

He said "Sunshine is the best disinfectant" and that he wanted more transparency in the government, Yet he has prosecuted more whistle blowers than ANY other President in history.

He said he would investigate the financial collapse yet not even one banker has been investigated or jailed.

I can go on and on but I think my point has been made.

I believe that this President has done exactly what he wanted to do all along and is only using the Republicans as cover.

Just saying........

Don't get me wrong I worked on both of his campaigns to get him elected, but as Dr Cornell West has said "I will be your biggest supporter to get you elected and the day after you win I will be your biggest critic" I feel the same way.

Mr. President do not just talk a good game,..... DO IT!

libdude

(136 posts)
28. You posed the issues well
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:28 AM
May 2013

As those are my questions which fuel concerns as to what he is about. He frames the issues relating to where the country is today and speaks to what action should be taken to address these issues. But after four years, the fifth year appears to be just a continuation of the previous. He has set goals, but the objectives as to reaching those goals seem to be be lacking.
If the only goal of the Republicans is to obstruct
the President even to the point of damaging the country, then what is the point of continuing to reach a compromise? Regardless of why they want to obstruct, because he is black, I am sure that would be on their list. Because he is a Democrat, yes.
Where does he go ftom here? Hope that 2014 gives different results? Continue to pander to the Republicans? No, not in my world, call the Republican party out, name individuals by name, single out specific Republicans for defeat. Use the " bully pulpit " to savage the Republican party collectively and individually.
As Sen. Toomey indicated, many Republicans voted against the firearms background checks just so they did not appear to support the President. Really, so they will let many Americans die and suffer because they dislike a black, Democratic President. I would set their houses on fire.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
35. You've pretty much said it all with your post.
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:00 PM
May 2013

You especially nail it right here: He said "Sunshine is the best disinfectant" and that he wanted more transparency in the government, Yet he has prosecuted more whistle blowers than ANY other President in history.

This right here shows his hypocrisy more than anything. Not only has he prosecuted more whistle blowers than any other President in history, but he's used the Espionage Act to go after whistleblowers more than every other President in history COMBINED. And sadly, it's the point most often neglected by critics of the president on BOTH sides of the aisle. I'm very tired of the same rhetoric coming from the president with absolutely zero change in policy.

pansypoo53219

(20,978 posts)
6. the GOoPers MUST make obama the LAST black president.
Wed May 1, 2013, 08:48 PM
May 2013

i knew it would be clitnonism squared. but that the MEDIA is not saying this is WHAT is is, means they are colluding.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
9. right...and that, to me has always driven me especially crazy
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:18 PM
May 2013

We've known the media's been propaganda all along, since the boosh selection at least. Soooo infuriating to know something before the rest of everyone else catches on.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
20. Somehow, I think his race has nothing to do with it.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
May 2013

Their corporate bosses don't care what color the president is, as long as the president is a republican. I am certain that they would have employed the exact same stupid strategy had Hillary Clinton been elected. Obstruction is really the only option that the Republicans have. In my opinion, the Republican obstruction strategy could potentially have been much more effective against Sec. Clinton, as they would also have had several more options available as targets. Her spouse, her time as First Lady, her gender, etc.


I think that one of President Obama's greatest accomplishments, and it's an ongoing accomplishment, has been the masterful job he has done to reveal the true Republican agenda of take from the poor and give to the rich. And, he has done this slowly, methodically, and with grinding effectiveness, without ever raising his voice. And he's still got four more years to kick their mange-y Republican asses up and down Pennsylvania Avenue!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. The Republicans did that to themselves when the ran Mittens....
Thu May 2, 2013, 12:48 PM
May 2013

One of the things I said during that election was the Republicans had spent DECADES building up a solid base of Country Western shitkickers and then threw them under the bus to run a Wall Street guy.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. I agree. This is why they put the screws to everything
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:02 AM
May 2013

Even the ordinary functioning of the government. They can't deal with the idea of a black man being President - it upsets their world view. They are punishing the country for it. Which is why people should have Obama's back rather than letting the Republicans get away with this by blaming the President.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
39. Hey,
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:36 PM
May 2013

don't let the naysayers get to you. I'm seeing lots of articles today concerning rethug recalcitrance and how they're gravely hurting their cause, whatever that may be. Seems people are waking up and blaming one side, and it's not the Dems.

hue

(4,949 posts)
15. Thank You Gov. Patrick for saying it loud & clear on Sun. morning news show & posting it on the web!
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:55 PM
May 2013

This can't be said enough as some folks still don't "get it"! (Believe it or not!)

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
18. Right on...
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:28 PM
May 2013

...Duval Patrick was the perfect person to have on the Sunday morning show. A REAL Democrat who will stand up and say what needs to be said. Because he has a backbone!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. Yep. It's on the table now. The Repubs have put their party above their country
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:07 PM
May 2013

AND millions of citizens...trying to slow the economy and cause suffering among millions, businesses failing. All that matters is that they and their fat cat donors win win win...so they can make more more more money.

That's all it's about for them. No patriotism, not even serving all their constituents...just the fat cats.

It's sickening and disgusting. And the voters are letting them do it! Stupid people.

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
17. The Republican goal is to trash the U.S. economy and destroy the middle class.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:19 PM
May 2013

Then the one percent will have complete control of the world's biggest imperial power.

President Obama is merely slowing down the agenda begun under Reagan, continued under Clinton (NAFTA, deregulation of the banking system and the media), and accelerated under Bush.

One has to clearly see the big picture.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
19. Yeah, Rah, Anti-Republican Crusaders!!!!
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:35 PM
May 2013

... and Yeah! Rah!! babylonsister!!! for bringing this to us. We need to send this to Harry Reid. What we really need to do is buy one of those skeletal models of a human spine and send it to Harry. I think it would be a good award to give out once a year to a Democrat in both the House and Senate who showed the most backbone. "The Deval Patrick Golden Backbone Award."

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
33. I like Gov. Deval Patrick.
Thu May 2, 2013, 01:33 PM
May 2013

I like his bearing. I like his stature. I like his positions. I like him for president.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
34. Slowing down the economy to harm Obama's reelection prospects is bad enough.
Thu May 2, 2013, 02:55 PM
May 2013

But now there's no good reason. Obama isn't going to be reelected, so why continue the sabotage?

Their reason is, and always was, that they hate their constituents.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
36. In a nutshell...
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:05 PM
May 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251302970

snip//


What’s really happening here, as the Daily Beast’s Michael Tomasky writes, is that the Republican Party has departed from traditional norms of political behavior. He notes that the GOP has become “a radical oppositionalist faction, way beyond the normal American parameters both in terms of ideology and tactics.”

In other words, the GOP doesn’t behave like a party should — it isn’t trying to govern, and it doesn’t have a particular agenda. It opposes Barack Obama’s presence in the White House, and will do anything — kill its own proposals, hold the economy hostage — to damage his standing with the public. How do you bend a party to your will when it has decided that its only self-interested course of action is to deny you all cooperation at all costs?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. That needs to be called out, and President Obama is to be thanked for saying this out loud in
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:38 PM
May 2013

recent times. Well, not exactly saying it out loud, but coming close. It's time to stop attempting to cooperate with Republicans and simply realize that they will do anything, even ruining our country, to prevent Obama from succeeding.

This is utterly shameful. It takes a lot to make me angry, but this does.

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