DU---quit telling me what Alex Jones, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and other pond scum douchebags

[trumad]

are saying to keep their pitiful attempts at relevance alive.

I see threads with headlines, Alex Jones says this---or Ann Coulter says that--- I don't even click.... because it's the same rehashed shit scraped from the gutters of their sick minds.

Just saying...

[Shrike47]

1. How else can we keep our hate alive?

If I don't pay attention to them, I get complacent or even happy.

[Katashi_itto]

75. I like cereal

[liberalmike27]

93. Been saying for a long while now

We've got the corporate "right-wing media" (corporate right), then we've got the corporate left. The corporate right puts their talking points out there, and they've got their audience. The corporate left, MSNBC, sometimes CNN serves as their echo chamber, so anyone who missed what right-wing fools say, can then hear it on the corporate left.

I've emailed them asking them to not put them on the left. We don't watch it, and realize they are full of __it. We don't want to hear these idiots on our slightly more legitimate stations, ones on the corporate left, that still omit a lot of issues that should be the province of the left, like anti-death penalty, talk about jobs, about why stopping democratic policy making has hurt jobs, about getting out of war and the over-burdening MIC in the first place.

But that is why they are the corporate left, MSNBC and such. They echo news on the right, in case you don't bother, and then they obfuscate the issues that hurt corporations, like any anti-globalization talk, or how shipping 35 million jobs away has hurt unions, wages, and more than anything, had a terrible effect on our country's debt.

[DonViejo]

2. Don't read the threads or, trash them if you don't like them...

I copy the threads and send them out to friends on my e-mail list. Keeps people informed.

[stevenleser]

6. It's very important to keep informed and raise awareness of what these folks are saying/doing nt

[DonViejo]

13. I agree, that's why I e-mail some of them to friends and

other folks, e.g. columnists

[HappyMe]

17. While that is true,

sometimes it's overkill with the Jones threads. I don't need to know his every dopey pronouncement.

[OneGrassRoot]

30. Absolutely. n/t

[BobbyBoring]

71. That would be

Infromed Moran

[freshwest]

80. Because they vote and are screwing things up, even in blue states...

They vote against:

public schools (gay, socialist, Obama loving indoctrination camps!),

police and fire services (they are coming to get you!),

women's rights and same sex marriage (UN plan to reduce our numbers, killing us off!),

gun control of any kind (all the better to haul you off to the FEMA camps!),

parks, roads, bridges, water plants, rail, mass transit, (UN plot - Agenda 21!),

anything to do with health care (they're giving you cancer with your shots, trying to sterilize you, turn men into women and make you dumb and servile!).

And they vote for:

privatizing everything,

ending a woman's right to choose and birth control,

ending the separation of church and state,

and whatever else you can think of that represents the New Deal (because FDR was a stealth commie who enslaved us all!)

Yes, we need to know why our country is going batshit. If you can't talk their lingo and try to reason with them - because they are bringing fascism, they'll just do it anyway.

[subject]

82. know

your enemy -sun tzu

[OmahaBlueDog]

43. +1

It is useful to be conversant in the nutter talking-points-of-the-week.

[Faygo Kid]

92. +2

[femmocrat]

3. I didn't even know who Alex Jones was until I saw his name on DU.

I wish I were still blissfully ignorant.

[Blue_Tires]

39. oh, Jones was an idol in the 9-11 forum back in the old days...

[Agschmid]

4. Yup. n/t

[FSogol]

5. K & R. Agreed. Repeating every asinine thing they say, gives them more attention and more power.

Let them sink.

[Duer 157099]

7. Same here

I love listening to Randi Rhodes, but the minute she plays a clip of Rush or someone like that, the radio just goes off. I don't understand why they do it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. +1,000,000

For some reason, they seem to think we're entertained by that. When I watch MSNBC, I have to DVR the show so that I can FF past any segment containing Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Fox & Friends. The best advertisers for the stupidity that passes for rightwing media, ironically, is leftwing media. I'm convinced that these guys get kickbacks for promoting those assholes. If I were remotely interested in what was being said on rightwing talk radio, or Fox News, I have a radio and a teevee of my own. I don't tune in to progressive media to hear or see that crap.

[Duer 157099]

23. I was going to also mention MSNBC for the same reason

and I do the same thing. I have zero tolerance, and even if I want to hear the rest of what might be said after the clip, I just turn it off and don't go back.

No interest whatsoever in what those guys are saying. Otherwise, I would tune into their shows, which I don't.

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. I think it behoves folks like to us to stand up and be heard. Perhaps they just don't know what a..

turnoff that crap is. If I never heard the name Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly ever again, my life would be a-ok. Maybe it's worth letting Randi, Lawrence, and Martin know how I feel. It was cute when Olbermann created the formula, but it's played out now, and it's time for something fresh & new.

[Jazzgirl]

8. You forgot Sarah Palin.

n/t

[trumad]

10. True that...

Anything to stay relevant with the knuckledraggers.

[Blue_Tires]

40. oh jesus god YES

[graham4anything]

9. I agree, and conspiracy theories should have no place in any society anyhow

especially as it specifically says so in the TOS

[dead_head]

44. This is dangerous, I think.

Hi to you!

I love reading abot conspiracy theories. I don't believe anything I read, but even if I'm not a -guvment's always bad- libertarian I don't always trust gouvernements or the uber rich.


I used ot listen to Jones a while ago and he was a little more rationnal but never hid his right wing ideas. I'm not right wing at all but I don't discredit everything that comes out from the mouth of a right winger.

Somethings Jones says are accurate. His solution is insane. But I fear that the debatte about conspiracy theories is not either; ALl conspiracy theorist are like Jones and they need to stfu. Or All event are gouvernment made, like the Jones follower like to say.

So if you mean that we should never think there are conspiracies, is dansgerous in my opnion.

Have a nice day.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

72. A jury voted 5-1 to Leave It Alone.

At Wed May 1, 2013, 06:03 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

This is dangerous, I think.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2783487

REASON FOR ALERT:

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

As well as seeming to defend right wing conspiracy theories, this looks like either a zombie, sock or a sockzombie that needs to be checked out by MIRT:

About dead_head
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You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 1, 2013, 06:10 PM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Will you get a grip? All this post says is that it is dangerous to dismiss all questioning of government as CT...nothing more nothing less. If this is the worst a zombie can do or say, perhaps we need more zombies...dead_head certainly makes more sense than this ridiculous alert! MIRT has enough to do checking out truly offensive zombies.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: He is correct, conspiracies can and have been developed and it is necessary to discern which are bogus
and which are not. He states he does not agree with RW political views, wait and see how he posts.
Can be kept on a watch basis considering his low post count.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
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Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Common Sense Party]

62. Who was behind 9/11?

What was George W. Bush's role?

[earthside]

11. It's okay with me.

I don't look at right-wing web sites; I don't watch Fox 'News', I don't listen to right-wing talk radio ... thanks to DU, I still know what these extremist reactionaries are blathering about.

I believe that knowledge is power ... you do need to know what the other side is arguing if you are going to be able to effectively refute them (and to validate my own liberal, progressive philosophy).

Speaking for myself, thanks for doing the unpleasant task of listening to theses nuts and relaying their ramblings to me on DU.

[LeftInTX]

25. I agree

[Plucketeer]

94. I agree too

Head-in-the-sand approaches are just that - or maybe worse - like one's head being somewhere else. Imagine trying to block out any news of what was going on in Europe 70-some years ago. Actually, that was sort of the official approach - termed "isolationism".

I do find these fringe luminaries to be amusing in their loonieness, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be aware of what they're saying. After all, they're WHERE THEY ARE because there's folks who've empowered them to their position. If they got THAT far, how much farther could they get if everyone who found them offensive just stuck their collective heads in the sand???

Nah, the world's yet to achieve "perfect" status. Once some cataclysmic event wipes out all humanity, it'll return to an Eden. In the meantime, I like folks hollering out "SNAKE!" when they see one.

[HappyMe]

20. Alex Jones is pond scum.

We can discuss Gitmo and idiot CT stuff at the same time.

[opiate69]

21. in before the MIRT! lmao

[Archae]

22. "Paid thug?"

Who "paid" him?

Easy answer: Nobody.
He has some choice words for a Alex Jones thug, and he lets us know.

And are you saying there is more to the Boston Bombing?
What evidence do you have of this?

To all: I have a hunch we have an Alex Jones groupie here...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. thank you.

[lamp_shade]

16. THUMBS UP!! We need a forum for IP's (Irrelevant People). Add Limbaugh and Palin to

the list. Great Rant, trumad. You said what I've been thinking for eons.

[alp227]

27. The problem is that those people's opinions have become mainstream.

Where else than DU can be the pushback to the mis-information of the Limbaughs and Malkins?

[tblue37]

19. It is only because we know of their most outrageous comments that reasonable people are able to

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SHOW their fans or their advertisers what nastiness they are supporting. Some like such ugliness, but some are totally oblivious until massive petitions are presented about not supporting such stuff. The advertising boycotts got Beck off of TV. But if we had not had ammunition to show his advertisers what he was spewing, those advertisers would not have abandoned him.

[Rose Siding]

67. A wise response.

Thanks.

[whatchamacallit]

24. It's obvious why they do it

[IMG][/IMG]

[zeemike]

36. Yep.

Put them all in a bag and shake it up....they all come out dirty.
It is a great way to shut up the skeptics.

[Life Long Dem]

26. Fox is probably still on Benghazi 24/7.

I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not seeing their propaganda. I do sometimes read some of their spin, but only to see how far out of the loop they have gone this time. And for a good laugh.

[Pisces]

28. I second that motion. Who care what these fools are spouting to morons.

[closeupready]

29. Have never understood why any of us here should care about

those douchebags. Yet, members here continually post their garbage.

K&R

[99Forever]

31. I agree.

I won't waste one second of this life listening to or concerning myself with what the semi-human trash have to say. I'm better than that, and it's nice to know I have company.

[dogknob]

33. Bring 'em on, I say! Some cannot resist the temptation...

...to display their true colors for all to see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022782451#post2

[OldHippieChick]

34. I know I'm in a minority here but

I don't listen, read or watch any right-wing so-called news. However, I have a few right-wing friends and I appreciate information I get from DU on the lunatic fringe so I have some idea how to counter what my friends say. Often, if it weren't for DU, I would have no idea what my right-wing friends are talking about and would have no response other than "BS". But DU gives me ammunition and foreknowledge. So, like I said, I know that's a minority opinion, but I'm glad to learn these things here rather than to have to search these clowns out for myself.

[firenewt]

37. Agreed. I would rather be aware than ignorant

[AnotherMcIntosh]

35. Exactly right.

Even worse than the posts that repeat the Jones-Coulter-Malkin-et al nonsense are the ones that tell us what the right-wing scum is thinking and how worried they are.

If anything, the right-wing scum is thinking about the money that they are taking to the bank. There is nothing other than unsupported speculation that they are worried about anything.

[magical thyme]

38. couldn't agree with you more. just sayin'

thank you.

p.s. Can we add Palin to the list of irrelevant blabbermouths?

[progressoid]

41. And Sarah Palin.

They don't need any more validation from us or the msm. Treat them as the fringe lunatics they are.

[oberliner]

42. Totally disagree

Good for DU to shed light on what these people are saying. Sadly they have pretty sizable numbers of followers - good to know what message they are getting.

[RyanThomas]

45. They're just so hilariously evil though...

I mean sure, a bit frightening. But when you hear Ann Coulter declare that we should arrest all Muslims and end all Immigration, something in me just laughs and laughs and laughs at her.

[DirkGently]

46. I prefer to keep abreast of what the crazies are saying.

It can get to be too much, for sure. Limbaugh in particular is so grotesque just hearing his self-satisfied torture of reality into new reasons to hate the non-rich-white-guy elements of the world can be sickening.

But we can't ignore them. Like it or not, the Limbaughs and Alex Jones' of the world are exerting social and political pressure, to not insignificant success, pushing the cultural framework in the hideous directions they favor. I think Limbaugh alone has a lot to do with solidifying the image of the poor as entitled layabouts, waiting by the mailbox for a government check.

If we don't look at it and respond, we embolden and empower it. Every time a Rachel Maddow arches a quizzical eyebrow and giggles at these purveyors of the lowest human impulses, they deflate a little. We need that. We need to remind people that crazy doesn't have to be the new normal.

A lie repeated becomes the truth.

[dothemath]

47. Exactly ................

I agree completely. These 3, and many others - Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage - I could go on, but you know who they are, have signed on to a phenomenon long recognized and practiced by charlatans of every stripe. A 'religious' figure who presides over a 'mega-church' can live like a prince. The above-named individuals live like kings. So-called news media trot them out on a regular basis to sell 'newspapers'. 'Newspapers' of today post the garbage that comes out of their mouths in videos that begin with an ad, usually around 30 seconds, for which they are paid for each viewing. It is cynicism on steroids and is reprehensible. They know it is not going away and they suffer no repercussions for disseminating this garbage. A miniscule percentage of the population of this country can deliver big bucks.

One only has to visit their favorite reporting site, for example, Democratic Underground, and join in the fray by reading the comments, many of which contain links that are clicked on, and the process continues and feeds on itself. Hey, it is freedom of speech and who could be against that? Facebook and Twitter do their part, as well, and their founders are multi-billionaires, not because they offer a service that is beneficial, but because it works to enrich them.

[trumad]

49. good post

[lamp_shade]

52. Bravo.

[Bjorn Against]

48. Know your enemy

If you know what the other side is saying it becomes far easier to make a case against them.

[trumad]

50. but what they are saying is simply rehashed shit...

That keeps them semi-relevant.

[Bjorn Against]

54. Of course it is rehashed shit, being able to point that out is essential to winning a debate

If you don't know what the other side is saying it is very difficult to argue that they are wrong, you need to know how shitty their argument is in order to explain how shitty it is.

[trumad]

56. we know because of the rehashed shit..

That its rehashed shit.

[Bjorn Against]

61. If you are not interested in keeping up with what the opposition is saying don't read those threads

I am interested in knowing about the craziness coming from the right however so I will continue to read the threads about it and maybe post a few of my own. If you are not interested don't click on the thread, just understand that some of us do find those threads valuable and respect that we want to know about what the opposition is up to.

[trumad]

70. look...there's opposition. ..and then there is crazy

I think that is the point of my thread.

Some are teaching me the virtues of hide thread. LOL.

[Bjorn Against]

73. I personally consider the crazy to be the opposition

I have no problem if you choose to hide the threads but I will continue to read them.

[obxhead]

51. Trash thread is a wonderful tool

If DU only had posts I wanted to read.... I wouldn't need to read it

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. Hide thread or don't click

Works wonders.

Some of us WANT to know what the assholes are saying. I'd rather read it here than see it posted on my Facebook page.

[trumad]

55. why would you want to know what Ann Coulter

Or Michelle Malkin have to say.

It's simply rinse and repeat....gotta be boring.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. Because after they say it, their fans repeat it.

And their talking points get posted ad nauseum all over the internets. I like knowing so I can form a counter argument. And I get better talking points here than anywhere.

It's something I actually appreciate about DU. But if you don't like it, then don't click on those threads. Seems simple enough.

[HiPointDem]

58. i agree. who cares what those freaks say and what difference does it make what DUers say

in response.

they're freaks and their only purpose is to throw out red meat so people waste their time on irrelevance.

[Common Sense Party]

64. People can discuss what they like.

But you don't have to see it. DU makes it very easy:

My Account: Trash Can

[Generic Other]

59. They grow more shrill if we ignore them

The worst thing about those "pond scum douchebags," people start to believe them. They end up re-electing George W. Bush. We have to remember they convinced people to vote for him -- and he claimed victory twice. I don't think ignoring is a good idea. Better to tell the truth. Ann Coulter uses race and class as wedge issues to divide us all; Alex Jones makes up very elaborate conspiracy theories in an attempt to prove someone is plotting at the highest levels of the government to take our freedom and our guns; Michele Malkin -- oh crap -- I don't know what the hell she does -- give all Asians a bad name by siding with the imperialist running dog capitalists over the downtrodden worker everytime? Don't you think we need to challenge them?

[HereSince1628]

60. What?? This didn't get sent to META?

SEE? There WAS a reason...

[Common Sense Party]

63. Simple: My Account: Trash Can

Auto-trash by Keyword

Don't like threads with those morons in the subject line? Trash them pre-emptively.

I trashed all the 'rape' and 'rapist' threads a while back as it was getting way out of hand.

[octothorpe]

65. heh, not a fan of getting needlessly annoyed with stupidity?

I actively go out and seek that stuff for some reason. I get some sick amusement from it.

[madinmaryland]

66. Stop posting shit about "Alex Jones, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, et al". We might think

that you are the jealous douchebag!

[malaise]

68. +1,000 n/t

[marble falls]

69. I'd much rather read Palin etc than see another "teacher caught materbaiting"...

type thread.

[elzenmahn]

74. While I would agree with you in spirit...

...I think it's important to continue to push back against these douchebags - because whether we like it or not, they still hold sway over certain sectors of public opinion, and thus have an impact on policy and decision making. They aren't relevant to US, but they are relevant to their fanbases, and as long as they are, they can't be ignored.

[El Supremo]

76. Don't you mean Pond Scum Doucebass?

[trumad]

86. LOL---you play that typo for everything you can get...

Don't blame you---so would I.

Not get back to the sports forum.

[gateley]

77. DU isn't telling you anything if you choose not to click.

I usually don't either -- gets my blood pressure soaring.

[madrchsod]

78. i dumped 4-5 facebook friends over thier crazy shit

i grew up with these people and were in the same classes for years. i guess politics was`t on our minds but 40-50 years later it`s a different story. ya i agree with you we have more important things to do than worry about than what the old drunk at the bar is rambling on about.

[MrMickeysMom]

79. Okay, then... this is the last thread for you ...

It might be the first thread for me, except that I remember that hated Ann Coulter to the point of being bored silly after some posting of it.

What can I say? People are fascinated with train wrecks and reality TV.

[olivelove]

81. Even though you want them irrelevant

notice that they'll say something outrageous just after a natural disaster. I think they're jealous.

[mahina]

83. Word

.

[Bryn]

84. A Big Amen

That's all, folks

[KurtNYC]

85. 1. Autotrash has reduced those types of threads for me

I choose not to live in a world where RW talking points are the center of the debate. Lately I have trouble watching Jon Stewart because of his obsession with Fox News. 'Fox News said something stupid' ? yes. and water is still wet.

2. Linking to their content or clips from their content is a way to post RW talking points on DU. If the poster says 'check this out, I like it' they get tombstoned but if the poster presents it in the context of 'this is outrageous' then the content stays (!?) It is the same crap!

Winston Churchill said "A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on" and many here are helping the lies travel. They don't think of it that way but IMHO they are. Don't send the lie around the world -- let it rot unnoticed in its fox hole.

You don't have to go into the outhouse to know that it stinks.

[A Simple Game]

87. If you don't want to talk about it, don't post about it. n/t

[Faux pas]

88. I'm with you

on this one. I didn't have enough nerve to post it. Thanks for speaking for me!

[Doctor_J]

89. It's a form of Stockholm Syndrome IMO

self-identifying Dems who are addicted to Fox "News" and hate Radio. I will never understand it. As for "know you enemy", they spew the same choreographed bullshit every day. I don't need 15 bulletins per day to know that.

A big reason we are losing the battle IMO.

[trumad]

95. Word...

And that's my point.

The know your enemy meme is incorrect in mho regarding these ass clowns. They sit there every day thinking of some inane bullshit to spout just to keep their relevance.

[treestar]

90. I don't mind it, I don't want to have my head in the sand

or live in a bubble. No use pretending Republicans don't exist and that pond scum like AJ, AC and MM don't have a platform and followers. It's ignoring them that gets people thinking it is possible to elect liberals in places like Montana and Missouri.

[toby jo]

91. Well, they're not very evolved, but they're a part of who we are on this planet.

It's an unfortunate reality. Best to check them out from time to time and relay the upper hand back at em.

[Bobbie Jo]

96. Agree.

It would also be helpful if a certain group of posters would stop parroting the Alex Jones tinfoilery.

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. Don't like 'em, don't read 'em

But keeping aware of what these people are up to matters.

Hell, I subscribe, by email no less, to a few RW sites...because it matters...in a possible genocide kind of way. Hotel Rwanda was not fiction.

[NCTraveler]

98. Well you do have this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022522133

Just having fun Trumad. I agree with your post.

[The CCC]

99. DU---quit telling me what Alex Jones, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and other pond scum douchebags

Keep up the good work DU. As the old adage goes: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[Myrina]

100. YES! One of the reasons I stopped watching MSNBC ...

... most of the talking heads are obsessed with replaying clips from Faux.

If I wanted to watch Faux, or know what those knucklefucks think, I'd change the channel.

[Ian_rd]

101. Look at the Pic of the Day. These Pond Scum Douchebags inform roughly half of all Republicans

And therefore, even if total brainless sacks of shit, their word salads are relevant.

[Blue_Tires]

102. This thread REALLY should be pinned to the top for awhile...

[Phentex]

103. Another note of thanks...

I get that we need to be informed but I DON'T need to know how many people HERE watch Fox News, listen to crap radio, etc. Oh, yeah, they accidentally changed the channel...

[Zorra]

104. Big hug for trumad! We really don't need or want to know about pigs farting in the wind. nt

[Whisp]

105. Tabloid stuff is fun for a lot of people. People love trash.

I gave up on that a while ago tho - probably around the time there was so much talk of Sarah Palin , from her glasses to her asses to DU men saying they would 'do her' (ugh - even tho she is the vile pos she is, apparently that doesn't matter as long as she has a vagina to put things into), revealed a lot about this place. I probably chirped in about what a useless jerk she is a lot of times but it gets tired after a while and you move on and hopefully learn some things that hopefully don't make you dumber.