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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan anyone find a reputable source for this?
I'm havin (another) Facebook debate and my friend posted this. I told him other than infowars Breitbart is the worst source possible, but I also promised to do due diligence and try to find a real source for it.
Thanks DU
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/01/Breaking-Pentagon-Confirms-Will-Court-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Regulations may be in planning to restrict proselytizing in the military, due to the abuses in some branches and some places. Chaplains serve to assist military personnel with faith-related matters, but their job does not, and should not, include evangelical efforts to try to convert people to their beliefs.
This has been a major problem in the military for some time, and even infested the Air Force Academy as one of the worst examples of this abuse of the chaplain's role.
Eliminating official proselytizing is a goal that should have been established decades ago. It is not a proper behavior by anyone in the military on an official basis.
Kali
(55,013 posts)flamin lib
(14,559 posts)Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Evangelical Chaplains Test Bounds of Faith in Military
by Jeff Brady
July 27, 200512:00 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4772331
--Basically this was a push by them to spread their faith even to those that don't want it.
Evangelizing the Troops
by Jeff Brady
November 25, 200512:00 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5027773
--Then they pushed even harder.
Are U.S. troops being force-fed Christianity?
A watchdog group alleges that improper evangelizing is occurring within the ranks.
By Jane Lampman, Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor / October 4, 2007
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1004/p13s02-lire.html
--See, another place that states that it is a problem.
Fundamentalist Christians Evangelizing Military Youth on the Taxpayer's Dime
Posted: 02/27/2013 11:58 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/club-beyond-military-proselytization_b_2734370.html
Since the Evangelicals were pushing their religion on others and it was being a problem. To the point that it was harrasment.
This is a long time coming. I have heard of this for a while, but if there is action now, that is new to me. I hope this helps, to at least show that there has been a problem and as for something with better journalism in regards to their actions, I haven't found one yet.
But this is a problem I've heard about years back. How evangelicals were pushing their religion on others, creating problems with unit cohesion.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I mean, if one can't find an article that gives a balanced approach to a particular subject, at least find articles that lead towards the decision.
That was a huge problem even before 2005, but it was already being reported then. Pretty happy they finally have set up those rules.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)It was broadcast about 4 years ago, despite the upload date (they must have re-uploaded it for some reason) and there was an article on AJE to go with it which i can't find. I'll have a look through DU archives to see what i posted when it 1st came out....
The United States is a deeply religious country, over 90% believe in god and 80% believe in miracles. For the US military, dealing with its own religious identity has become an internal battle.
Growing evidence points towards a rising influence of evangelical Christianity, and with two wars still raging in Muslim countries with significant religious overtones, there could be serious consequences for the US mission.
Pentagon officials say incidents are isolated, aberrations occur, but others closely tied to the military and its religious leadership say a transformation is taking place with dire costs. On this weeks episode of Fault Lines, we look at the battle over the religious soul of the US military.
Also, we sit down with Brent Scowcroft, the National Security Advisor under Presidents Ford and George H.W. Bush. He gives Fault Lines a fresh take on the issue of religion in the military and how it is impacting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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And this one:
Christian US troops urged to break all the rules & evangelize in Afghanistan http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x307492
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)There is a reason why agressive evangelism isn't tolerated.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Been trying to find a source for that, but the only ones that carry it are those sites that don't show any sort of moderation.
My prior post should at least give the background as to the reason the military has put those rules in to effect.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)You can't prove or disprove false truths.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Thanks to DU
alp227
(32,027 posts)And I recently saw an interesting story not quite related: http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/05/01/another-wingnut-freakout-debunked/
To me it looks like typical Breitbartization of the news: innocently the military BANS proselytization but the right wing rat bastards at Dimbulbart decided to highlight the "court martial" part.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)It's your "friend"s job to prove it - and that web page isn't.
In fact, if it ONLY appears on Breitbart it's most definitely a lie.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Mike is a second-generation military lifer. He's also Jewish. He was harassed by Christian fundamentalists, as were others, and he fought against their attempts to violate his constitutional rights.
Cause, you know, that's what the military is supposed to be fighting to uphold, not someone right to be a religious asshole.
He wrote about it here:
Fundamentalist Christian Monsters: Papa's Got A Brand New Bag
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html
I founded the civil rights fighting organization the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) to do one thing: fight those monsters who would tear down the Constitutionally-mandated wall separating church and state in the technologically most lethal entity ever created by humankind, the U.S. military.
Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation's armed forces. Oh my, my, my, how "Papa's got a brand new bag."
What's Papa's new tactic? You're gonna just love this! These days, when ANYone attempts to bravely stand up against virulent religious oppression, these monstrosities cry out alligator tears in overflowing torrents and scream that it is, in fact, THEY who are the dispossessed, bereft and oppressed. C'mon, really, you pitiable unconstitutional carpetbaggers? It would be like the utter folly of 1960's-era southern bigots howling like stuck pigs in protest that Rosa Parks' civil rights activism is "abusing" them by destroying and disenfranchising their rights to sit in the front seat of buses in Montgomery, Alabama. Please, I beseech you! Let us call these ignoble actions what they are: the senseless and cowardly squallings of human monsters.
Queasy with the bright and promising lights of the cultural realities of the present day, those evil, fundamentalist Christian creatures and their spiritual heirs have taken refuge behind flimsy, well-worn, gauze-like euphemistic facades such as "family values" and "religious liberty." These bandits coagulate their stenchful substances in organizations such as the American Family Association (AFA), the ultra-fundamentalist Family Research Council (FRC), and the Chaplains Alliance for Religious Liberty (CARL). The basis of their ruinous unity is the bane of human existence and progress: horrific hatred and blinding bigotry. However, when the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and others correctly characterize them as "hate groups," they all too predictably raise a deafening hue and disingenuously bellow mournfully like the world class cowards they are.