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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:09 AM May 2013

Majority want death penalty if Boston suspect is convicted

Most Americans also back the decision to give Dzhokhar Tsarnaev a civilian trial

BY JILLIAN RAYFIELD


A new Washington Post/ABC News poll finds that the majority of Americans want Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to get the death penalty if he is convicted of the bombings in Boston, by a margin of 70-24 percent.

The poll also finds that most of those surveyed agreed with the decision to try Tsarnaev in the federal court system, as opposed to a military tribunal, by a margin of 74-19 percent.

From the Post:

Majority support for the federal approach crosses party lines, with 80 percent of Democrats, 73 percent of independents and 72 percent of Republicans saying they back a civilian trial. However, Democrats are by far the most apt to support it “strongly.” Democrats are also the least likely to strongly support the use of the death penalty, although most of them do support it, at least somewhat.

The bigger divide on the death penalty is between whites and African Americans. While 75 percent of whites say they would back the use of the death penalty were Tsarnaev convicted, the support among African Americans barely goes past the midpoint: 52 percent of African Americans would support the death penalty, and 43 percent would oppose it.


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http://www.salon.com/2013/05/01/majority_want_death_penalty_if_boston_suspect_is_convicted/
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Majority want death penalty if Boston suspect is convicted (Original Post) DonViejo May 2013 OP
I wonder what the poll would say if it was just people from MA Marrah_G May 2013 #1
I'd vote LWOP. No death penalty for me. Little Star May 2013 #4
As would I Marrah_G May 2013 #5
Same here Auggie May 2013 #6
Same leftynyc May 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #16
i am sure that will be decided by a mass. jury, in federal court where the death penalty arely staircase May 2013 #24
That is nice. I suspect he will get life nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #2
i bet feds ask for the dp arely staircase May 2013 #25
I don't want it for him JustAnotherGen May 2013 #3
I read somewhere that the media plays a large part Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #13
To the max, whatever charged with. (Zimmy too in Florida). graham4anything May 2013 #7
That would just make him a martyr, like McVeigh is to some gun culturists. nt onehandle May 2013 #8
He's not getting the death penalty imo flamingdem May 2013 #9
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #10
+1000 Cali_Democrat May 2013 #20
Life with no chance of parole -- EVER. Bake May 2013 #11
No surprise there MrScorpio May 2013 #12
as the little monster will soon learn eom arely staircase May 2013 #26
The state should not murder anybody, ever. MadHound May 2013 #14
he won't be murdered arely staircase May 2013 #27
State sanctioned murder is murder, MadHound May 2013 #29
i bet he gets it arely staircase May 2013 #30
Oh, I have no doubt that he will get the death penalty, MadHound May 2013 #31
I say drop him in the middle of Afghanistan snooper2 May 2013 #15
Huh, intersting.. one_voice May 2013 #28
I'm against the death penalty in this case LeftInTX May 2013 #17
Let him rot in prison. HappyMe May 2013 #18
If convicted ... GeorgeGist May 2013 #21
This Bostonian is not in favor of the death penalty for this crime. smirkymonkey May 2013 #22
The tyrrany of the majority is still mob rule TransitJohn May 2013 #23
Of course, it's a natural reaction. MrSlayer May 2013 #32
Death is easy Kalidurga May 2013 #33
Death penalty Humus breath May 2013 #34

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
1. I wonder what the poll would say if it was just people from MA
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:11 AM
May 2013

We don't have the death penalty here, but I'm curious to know what portion of residents here would want him put to death.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. Same
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:35 PM
May 2013

But I'm hoping he pleads out to that (in exchange for no death penalty) to spare Boston the cost and psychological toll of a trial.

Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
24. i am sure that will be decided by a mass. jury, in federal court where the death penalty
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:19 PM
May 2013

does exist. so polls are meaningless, and should be. if a mass. jury gives him the dp, so be it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. That is nice. I suspect he will get life
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

Good lawyer and he plays along, the Feds tend to respect state status. MA does not have a death penalty

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
3. I don't want it for him
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:14 AM
May 2013

No need to make him a Freedom Fighter Martyr for some sick twist who needs a 'mission' in their miserable life. Let him sit in a cell for the rest of his natural life.

 
13. I read somewhere that the media plays a large part
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:29 PM
May 2013

in making a martyr, through wall to wall coverage. interesting thought

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. He's not getting the death penalty imo
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:27 AM
May 2013

His lawyer got Loughner off and will pull off the same with this guy. She's the best.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
10. Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:33 AM
May 2013
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche

Bake

(21,977 posts)
11. Life with no chance of parole -- EVER.
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:18 PM
May 2013

Let him rot in prison. No need to execute him, give him plenty of time to think about what he did.

Bake

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
14. The state should not murder anybody, ever.
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:30 PM
May 2013

Life without parole, I have no problem with that. But no state sanctioned murder.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
29. State sanctioned murder is murder,
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:32 PM
May 2013

The death penalty is not a deterrent, it is not about justice, it is about vengeance, pure and simple.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
30. i bet he gets it
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
May 2013

and the jury that heard the evidence will not be charged with murder, because they won't have committed it. murder is a specific crime with elements the state must prove during the defendant's due process. and in the little bastard thrill killer's case those elements will be proven.

sit back and watch, and cry for him if you wish. but it is what it is.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
31. Oh, I have no doubt that he will get the death penalty,
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:45 PM
May 2013

It will be duly handed down in a court of law, fallibility thereof be damned, but that still does not mean that it is just or moral. Justice and morality are separate entities from the law, one can follow the letter of the law and still be just or moral.

Will I cry for him, no. But neither can I condone murder performed by the state.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
15. I say drop him in the middle of Afghanistan
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:31 PM
May 2013

Give him two gallons of water and a snickers and see if his "brethren" take him in....

LeftInTX

(25,369 posts)
17. I'm against the death penalty in this case
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:31 PM
May 2013

I wonder if over time opinions will change?

ETA: I was also against the death penalty for McVeigh, for what it's worth. However, McVeigh was more diabolical and I can see why a jury would vote for death.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. This Bostonian is not in favor of the death penalty for this crime.
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:36 PM
May 2013

Life in prison without parole, yes. DP, no.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
23. The tyrrany of the majority is still mob rule
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:53 PM
May 2013

The death penalty is highly immoral. Civilized peoples should not kill, not even in their name. 'Conservatives' should also be highly hesitant to bequeath governments the power to take life.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
32. Of course, it's a natural reaction.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
May 2013

People are pissed off and want justice. Particularly for the child killed.

I'm generally in favor of capital punishmement but reading up on these supermax prisons makes me pause. The 23 hour solitary is a much harsher penalty than simply killing him. And not because he can "reflect on what he did" because that's horseshit, these people don't give a fuck about their victims.

No human contact is pretty much torture. One slowly, gradually goes insane when held in solitary for long periods of time. Maybe that is the correct punishment for assholes like this.

I haven't decided yet.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
33. Death is easy
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:48 PM
May 2013

life is hard. I don't have a problem with him rotting in jail for the next 50-60 years or longer.

Humus breath

(1 post)
34. Death penalty
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:56 PM
May 2013

How about the death penalty for corporate capitalist pigs that kill millions by poisoning our air and water?

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