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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:29 PM Apr 2013

DU is being Filtered By My ISP

Other sites, like NYT, Fox news and Daily Mail all load up as usual.

But click on DU and simple pages never finish loading.

Folks, this is the beginning of the end for the free internet. My ISP denies they are blocking some internet traffic but I have proof they are placing filters on the web. They even have an option on their account pages where a customer can filter the web by their customer's choice.


Of course, if you are an establishment supporter and never rock the boat, you are no target. They just looooove sheeple. Only the hell raisers and hard questioners of the PTB get attention.

Each time this has happened to me (3 times now) it has only been after some serious anti-establishment questions have been posted.

For all you who want to keep posting the drivel that amounts to nothing more than chit-chat, you are safe.

Looking over DU these last few days shows that, and that many hard nosed questioners are almost extinct. Please, alert on this and send it to admins, they need to know that DU is being buried by the PTB.

And for those of you who are considering to make a reply about how it isn't effecting you, just f'n put me on ignore and be done with yourselves.

I've been on the web for 14 years now and it has never been this bad. They are sticking it to us. The only sites that load are the Big sites and that is just how they want it to be from here on.

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DU is being Filtered By My ISP (Original Post) RobertEarl Apr 2013 OP
Who's your ISP? hobbit709 Apr 2013 #1
I'm in telecom, you one of my customers? snooper2 Apr 2013 #2
You got your DSCP EF packets in my AF41. Would you fix that, please? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #12
I have a hard time getting on DU at times. Rex Apr 2013 #3
Sometimes DU is just slow. RudynJack Apr 2013 #4
Sometimes people on DU are slow. FSogol Apr 2013 #8
This is the best thread. EVER. Number23 Apr 2013 #74
H.R. 2549 "Helping Obama Cheerleaders and 1% Americans Now Act" FSogol Apr 2013 #78
You have to be a hell raiser as well... Pelican Apr 2013 #80
I've nothing to add. xmas74 Apr 2013 #84
This is also going on in our area. See post #77. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #114
Maybe the slow internet is... Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #96
"real, hard line" questioners, like in post #14 Electric Monk May 2013 #98
Since CreekDog cheats in a discussion battle, I will not say anything to.... Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #103
I was just trying to figure out what LFR stands for. CreekDog May 2013 #116
Cue X-Files theme: OoooOoooOoooooOooo FSogol Apr 2013 #5
Paranoid much? NightWatcher Apr 2013 #6
Where are you and what Nite Owl Apr 2013 #7
There seems to be a bug in this thread. All of the OP's text is obscured by black rectangles. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #9
You're getting that too? octothorpe Apr 2013 #53
What I hate are the usual crowd of black truedelphi Apr 2013 #60
!!! Kali Apr 2013 #75
Lol! NealK May 2013 #125
I think we would be done with you if we put you on ignore. Not ourselves. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #10
Hmmm. Way to offend as many people as possible. HERVEPA Apr 2013 #11
Here's the way to find out if it's your ISP or something else. leveymg Apr 2013 #13
The connection? No way, it must be an evil conspiracy, not a simple computer problem. FSogol Apr 2013 #16
I assumed the problem was technical. My bad. Head slap. leveymg Apr 2013 #18
We ALL know that the simplest explanation can't be right. FSogol Apr 2013 #24
It's chem trails. Or HAARP. Or something. eom Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #40
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #107
This is also going on in our area. See post #77. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #115
How would such hijacking by an ISP be detected? See #64. leveymg May 2013 #123
Here, the ISP banner appears, advertising for many things, and also RKP5637 May 2013 #124
I haven't seen that before. leveymg May 2013 #127
It was really a WTF moment for me having been in IT for years. Someplace, I read that not long ago RKP5637 May 2013 #132
Apparently, there are many here who saw nothing more or less in the OP than leveymg May 2013 #135
Yep, a real problem when people just jump on bandwagons ... and used so well as we know by political RKP5637 May 2013 #136
No kidding? RobertEarl Apr 2013 #29
An ISP can filter whatever they want. The question is why would they filter Democratic Underground? Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #32
Did you try these simple steps? leveymg Apr 2013 #35
So who is your ISP? You never answered. n/t cui bono Apr 2013 #44
He can't answer. His ISP keeps blocking the post. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #47
You say your IP offers filtering options Captain Stern Apr 2013 #59
Don't offer confusing facts REP Apr 2013 #68
Best response yet in a thread full of fun! zappaman Apr 2013 #69
There's a much easier way jeff47 Apr 2013 #64
Easy for you to say. But, hey, that is a useful parlour trick. leveymg Apr 2013 #72
Dang, are you having trouble posting racist nonsense? CreekDog Apr 2013 #14
Those are brilliant! It's like reading Daffy Duck's manifesto. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #45
Holy SHIT, what a liberalhistorian May 2013 #88
I want more butter with my popcorn Hekate May 2013 #97
You're such a hell raiser and hard questioner, you coyly just say "my ISP" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #15
Be free to post the drivel... pintobean Apr 2013 #17
Lobbying for your pic in the dictionary under 'paranoia,' huh? nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #19
maybe you forgot to turn off the webapp that stops nonsense posts like this: CreekDog Apr 2013 #20
WTF is he babbling about? liberalhistorian May 2013 #90
Who is "PTB?" johnp3907 Apr 2013 #21
I had to go look it up, but the ISP blocked my access to slang and it took, like, hours... Hekate May 2013 #99
I think you're onto something. NealK May 2013 #128
That was my fault... octothorpe Apr 2013 #22
Now THAT's what I call transparency in Gov't! dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #121
Does youtube still work alright for you? Electric Monk Apr 2013 #23
Those were the days... randome Apr 2013 #33
LOL, boy does that bring liberalhistorian May 2013 #87
Oh my gods the memories! Hekate May 2013 #101
Did this happen before or after the Boston PD helicopter shot through your door LanternWaste Apr 2013 #25
Lulz, man. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #92
I think your ISP just sucks. Get a new one. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #26
It could be the ads Coyotl Apr 2013 #27
This is why you should get Ad Blocker. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #30
It's why you toss the site a few bucks and get a STAR Warpy Apr 2013 #38
Mine expired xmas74 Apr 2013 #85
Good! I wish they'd restore the feature that allowed Warpy May 2013 #95
Ahh, the OP does not have a STAR Hekate May 2013 #102
Get a star Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #41
Paranoia runs deep. HappyMe Apr 2013 #28
It's TEPCO, man. TEPCO!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #31
U R on uber auto ignoredz now doubleplus sadz man! Rex Apr 2013 #50
This is the best thing since the duck playing with the cat in the shark suit on the roomba. Squinch Apr 2013 #81
Weird. I was at a university a few days ago. randome Apr 2013 #34
I spend 5 days a week on the campus of the largest public university in the US. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #36
I think people may often assign nefarious motivations and attributes to unnamed agencies and other e LanternWaste Apr 2013 #39
+1. The CIA ate all my peanut butter again. The jar is almost empty. FSogol Apr 2013 #65
This is also going on in our area. See post #77. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #118
This is also going on in our area. See post #77. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #117
Good Luck... synapticwave Apr 2013 #37
I hadn't noticed Tree-Hugger Apr 2013 #42
Rhinestones! HappyMe Apr 2013 #46
I suggest gold foil over the tin foil Marrah_G Apr 2013 #70
Better protect your mouse, too. That's another way they can get to you. randome Apr 2013 #52
Chrystal, Swarovski chrystal notadmblnd Apr 2013 #57
They're going to get you (all three). Apophis Apr 2013 #43
Purity of Essence. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #48
These sorts of things are usually technical glitches, not hostile action. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #49
Ssshhh! HappyMe Apr 2013 #51
African or European? n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #54
You're a peein. HappyMe Apr 2013 #55
and Youth in Asia FSogol May 2013 #112
This is also going on in our area. See post #77. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #119
Isn't the answer to not post conspiracy theories denying Boston and Conn. happened? graham4anything Apr 2013 #56
People can.. Nabbysensei Apr 2013 #58
Heh zappaman Apr 2013 #61
Yep. greytdemocrat Apr 2013 #62
Finished with my woman... Uzair Apr 2013 #63
Did you try clearing out your browser's cache and deleting cookies? markpkessinger Apr 2013 #66
Just to be extra sure, drag hard drive into trash REP Apr 2013 #71
I must be hell-raiser #1 because sometimes the server stops responding altogether REP Apr 2013 #67
comic genius H2O Man Apr 2013 #73
I was assuming this was a joke at first, but now I'm not so sure... octothorpe Apr 2013 #76
See post #77. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #79
I had that happen here in red/red land! When loading the URL for DU I suddenly RKP5637 Apr 2013 #77
You can use OpenDNS or Google's DNS servers. backscatter712 May 2013 #130
Yep, that's what I did awhile back ... to OpenDNS via the routers. Never been a problem since! RKP5637 May 2013 #133
If only there were some way you could get the word out about this. bluedigger May 2013 #137
Only on DU via this thread. I don't know how prevalent this is across internet-land. I've seen some RKP5637 May 2013 #138
Could not help but notice... RobertEarl Apr 2013 #82
Let me get this straight: If someone thinks you're seeing things that aren't there about Fukushima Electric Monk Apr 2013 #83
"and wrong about protecting Bush" zappaman May 2013 #91
I've resisted posting so far but what are you saying? What DUers protected Bush? Who was wrong about uppityperson May 2013 #94
Absolutely delusional thinking. TroglodyteScholar May 2013 #105
"they are practicing on me" pintobean May 2013 #109
Stop Protecting Bush FSogol May 2013 #113
When you load DU, does it look like this...??? stevenleser May 2013 #110
It happened to me once. NealK May 2013 #129
Oh yeah? Well lemme tell ya what *real* trouble is . . . . my laptop is leaking out of the USB ports Stinky The Clown Apr 2013 #86
That's good... MrMickeysMom May 2013 #89
The only way this thread could be better would be ohheckyeah May 2013 #93
Could be a node down between you and DU. Marr May 2013 #100
Turn off the power strip. Unplug your computer from the wall outlet. Hekate May 2013 #104
I run a fair size block of IP addresses defacto7 May 2013 #106
Thank you for your sanity! We had similar problems as the OP and RKP5637 May 2013 #122
I must say that in my 12 years here at DU.. trumad May 2013 #108
At least he is not due beer and travel money... FSogol May 2013 #111
Maybe it's your username... SidDithers May 2013 #120
That's good advice! zappaman May 2013 #131
Why would someone abandon an account for another? NealK May 2013 #139
No, probably not. MineralMan May 2013 #126
See #77. There's some stuff going on. n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #134
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
2. I'm in telecom, you one of my customers?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:31 PM
Apr 2013

I mostly deal with VoIP but I can "fix" some other things for you

Number23

(24,544 posts)
74. This is the best thread. EVER.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:14 PM
Apr 2013

Only the "real, hard line" questioners have slow Internet connections.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
78. H.R. 2549 "Helping Obama Cheerleaders and 1% Americans Now Act"
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:40 PM
Apr 2013

Rules Committee Print 213-8, showing the text of H.R. 2549 as ordered reported by the Super Secret Committee on Stifling Real, Hardline Questioners on various web forums. Added 04/22/2013 at 10:11 AM



Note to self: Invest in Alcoa Stock.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
84. I've nothing to add.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:20 PM
Apr 2013

I just wanted to make my presence known in what has the makings of an epic thread.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
103. Since CreekDog cheats in a discussion battle, I will not say anything to....
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:13 AM
May 2013

Bring his wrath.


How does CreekDog do that LFR?

By looking up facts.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Paranoid much?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:35 PM
Apr 2013

They're not coming to get you because of what you ask on DU. I correspond with lots of radicals and political noisemakers and haven't had issue.

Why post your OP if you want others who don't share your position to ignore you? This is a Discussion Board.

Discuss.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. I think we would be done with you if we put you on ignore. Not ourselves.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:38 PM
Apr 2013

But I would never do that.

"And for those of you who are considering to make a reply about how it isn't effecting you, just f'n put me on ignore and be done with yourselves."

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
13. Here's the way to find out if it's your ISP or something else.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:43 PM
Apr 2013

Step 1) On a day you can't load DU at home, take your computer (assuming it's a laptop) to another location - library, friend's house, Starbucks, whatever -- and see if you have trouble getting on.

If DU loads, you may have a problem with your ISP or connection.

Step 2) Try getting onto DU at home using someone else's computer from your home location. Borrow a test computer. If you still can't get onto DU, but other sites load okay, then you might want to call your ISP or cable provider and ask about this.

Good luck!

Response to Tree-Hugger (Reply #40)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
123. How would such hijacking by an ISP be detected? See #64.
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:56 AM
May 2013

What you describe at #77 seems to be a separate issue from counting the number of hops analysis explained by Jeff at #64.

For those two responses, this has indeed been a highly valuable thread.

Thnx.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
124. Here, the ISP banner appears, advertising for many things, and also
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:04 AM
May 2013

a notification that you requested an invalid URL. Then, if you search on the links presented by the ISP you can then find DU. It well might be they do this for frequently visited sites??? and has nothing to do with DU specifically. This is a practice becoming prevalent for ISP revenue - ads/clicks. I first learned of it after doing a lot of searching on the net. Here, I run several secure systems and when I saw this is was a WTF search.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
127. I haven't seen that before.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:44 AM
May 2013

The closest I've seen is an APACHE advisory that comes up when a link to what appears might have been a mirror site is severed. Interesting. Thanks.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
132. It was really a WTF moment for me having been in IT for years. Someplace, I read that not long ago
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:27 AM
May 2013

some sw had been developed that allows, as they said, unscrupulous ISPs to easily redirect DNS traffic to advertising for click-revenue, as well as giving an invalid URL for sites they wish. Here, I think, giving the ISP credit, it might have been just for advertising revenue ... although, this is a red/red area so it's easy to get a little paranoid. They could easily direct unsuspecting customers for revenue ... thinking this was just now it worked. Yeah, it's been a really interesting thread. Since I switched DNS servers via my routers I had not thought much about it 'till I saw this OP ...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
135. Apparently, there are many here who saw nothing more or less in the OP than
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013
and an opportunity for a dog pile -- we really should have that as a smilies icon -- and a good laugh at the OP's expense.

I don't know what to think about the OP's problem (technical difficulty or something else, both maybe), but there really is a nasty pack instinct at work that's plainly evident in this thread. I'm a bit embarrassed for DU by this one.

Meanwhile, I learned some things about how the inner tubes work. Thanks again!

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
136. Yep, a real problem when people just jump on bandwagons ... and used so well as we know by political
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:48 AM
May 2013

operatives ... swift-boating comes to mind!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
29. No kidding?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:05 PM
Apr 2013


You think I have not jumped all those hoops already?

I can download all the big sites with no problem, but when it comes to DU and a few others, it gets locked up.

My ISP is ignoring me because they don't want to admit they are filtering. THEY OFFER FILTERING OPTIONS RIGHT ON THEIR HOMEPAGE. They have the tech, but then when I point out that a 300 kb page loads in 2 secs, but my email, DU and other sites never finish loading, they act like there is nothing they can do.

But twice now, when the problem went away, their polite letters to me said that they finally, FINALLY, checked the network.

The poor slaves at the bottom of the pile at the ISP are not to blame.

Question: Do you not believe that an ISP can filter the internet?

Sorry, that was a dumb question, because of course you know they can.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
32. An ISP can filter whatever they want. The question is why would they filter Democratic Underground?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:09 PM
Apr 2013

As opposed to literally millions of other left leaning sites.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
35. Did you try these simple steps?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:14 PM
Apr 2013

If so, what happened when you tried to log-on to DU from somewhere other than your home location served by your ISP?

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
59. You say your IP offers filtering options
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:15 PM
Apr 2013

Is one of those options to make some pages load slow?

Or, are they parental control options that let you ban certain sites altogether?

Seems to me that if the folks at your IP thought it was really important to keep you from posting here, they'd make it impossible...not just inconvenient.

REP

(21,691 posts)
68. Don't offer confusing facts
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:33 PM
Apr 2013

He doesn't understand the difference between user filtering, throttling and being a dumbfuck.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
64. There's a much easier way
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:18 PM
Apr 2013

open a command prompt, and use traceroute on unix, or tracert on windows. For example:

tracert www.democraticunderground.com


This will list all the steps between you and Democratic Underground.

Mine looks like this (I've redacted the names that reveal where I live)
Tracing route to www.democraticunderground.com (216.158.28.195)
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 33 ms 12 ms 35 ms 10.101.0.1
3 53 ms 63 ms 63 ms (redacted)
4 11 ms 10 ms 13 ms (redacted)
5 34 ms 39 ms 31 ms (redacted)
6 72 ms 62 ms * ae-3-0.cr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.72)
7 29 ms 26 ms 27 ms 66.109.6.189
8 69 ms 81 ms 77 ms ge9-4.br03.chc01.pccwbtn.net (209.8.108.37)
9 74 ms 93 ms 75 ms dcanet.ge2-4.br01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.31.10)
10 83 ms 89 ms 91 ms core-4-gig-vlan-500.hq.dca.net (216.158.2.2)
11 211 ms 65 ms 64 ms core-2.hq.dca.net (216.158.48.2)
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.


Eventually, it will stop listing new steps - DU's ISP filters out traceroute traffic, which is extremely common - it reduces DU's bandwidth and thus cost. The "* * *" lines at the end are where that happens. Hit Control-C to stop the program.

If there's only about 4 hops, then your ISP may be blocking DU's IP - though it may be something as innocent as equipment failure. If there's 10-ish, then your ISP isn't blocking DU.

There's other ways your ISP could filter, but those are more obvious and easier to get around.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
14. Dang, are you having trouble posting racist nonsense?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
Apr 2013



RobertEarl (2,748 posts)
52. My opinion

Since our society is making progress and slowly dropping the wall of privilege, or glass ceiling, the society as a whole will improve. Be better.

But it is what it is and we can thank the wm, as a whole, for producing the easy life we now enjoy. The US and Europe have it very, very good historically, and imo, it has to do with the affirmative action the wm embraced and made good with.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139421


RobertEarl (2,748 posts)
23. Yeah, and it is time to do this

Last edited Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Everyone needs to come to grips with the fact that the privileged white male has been very, very good for this society. That thru that privilege our human society have great things upon which our easy lives' rest. Our unions and our work ethic have resulted in all of us living like only the few kings and queens did 100 years ago.

I am a wm and I'm proud and privileged.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139120


If birds congregate, problems can arise...

RobertEarl (2,748 posts)
4. Klamath river?

There's water in them there rivers.

Birds can fly and find water. Sure, if they congregate problems can arise. But birds are smart enough to flap their wings and find the habitat they need. Of course they can't tell if the radiation is there or anywhere. Neither can humans. But we have Geiger counters.

And the counters have found radiation all up and down the coast. And radiation levels are always highest where water has settled. Like it does in marshes. Don't close your mind off to the possibilities is all I am saying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=593805








 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. Those are brilliant! It's like reading Daffy Duck's manifesto.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

Those are brilliant! It's like reading Daffy Duck's political manifesto.

Ok... this poster may be my New Favorite Person in the World to Read After One Too Many Drinks.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
88. Holy SHIT, what a
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:12 AM
May 2013

bunch of racist, reactionary nonsense. I think he's got the wrong calendar, and his is on 1913, not 2013.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
15. You're such a hell raiser and hard questioner, you coyly just say "my ISP"
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
Apr 2013

Go on, rebel - actually complain about them in the open.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
90. WTF is he babbling about?
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:15 AM
May 2013

WTF is that drivel supposed to mean? I've read it three times now and I still just can't figure it out. Methinks the aluminum in his tin foil hat must be seeping into his brain.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
99. I had to go look it up, but the ISP blocked my access to slang and it took, like, hours...
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:06 AM
May 2013

... to discover that it might mean Pass the Buck or Please Text Back. Or, possibly, Powers That Be.

But P.T. Barnum would do as well.

NealK

(1,867 posts)
128. I think you're onto something.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:51 AM
May 2013

"There's a sucker born every minute." - P.T. Barnum

(They made me post this as well!)

octothorpe

(962 posts)
22. That was my fault...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:00 PM
Apr 2013

I work for the CIA team assigned to your ISP. I was trying to block your neighbor who was onto our false flag operation in Boston, but I accidentally got the IPs mixed up. I put you on a list so that it doesn't happen again.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
87. LOL, boy does that bring
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:06 AM
May 2013

back some childhood memories! This should definitely be the OP's theme song. Poor thing, maybe he DOES need to go to the funny farm. Or at least get his tin foil hats readjusted, I think they may be on just a bit too tight.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Did this happen before or after the Boston PD helicopter shot through your door
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:02 PM
Apr 2013

Did this happen before or after the Boston PD helicopter shot through your door to find and destroy your civil rights, your privacy, your milk, and your well-written and quite righteous manifesto?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
27. It could be the ads
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

If you are getting ads in your DU pages, they can have scripts that stop the page from loading until the ad server does its BS

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
38. It's why you toss the site a few bucks and get a STAR
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:20 PM
Apr 2013

Pay for the privilege and the ads just go poof.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
85. Mine expired
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:24 PM
Apr 2013

but now that I've been called back from a lay-off I plan on sending a few bucks along with my first paycheck!

Hooray!

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
95. Good! I wish they'd restore the feature that allowed
Wed May 1, 2013, 02:38 AM
May 2013

those of us with a few bucks to spare to buy stars for folks who didn't.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
41. Get a star
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:27 PM
Apr 2013

That's what I did. Supports this site and it loads way faster during heavy traffic times. This site was nearly impossible for me to load during the weeks before the election, so I upgraded to a star membership.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. U R on uber auto ignoredz now doubleplus sadz man!
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:46 PM
Apr 2013

Why don't even reply if you was just going neener neenerz?! This is series adult stuffzX10! James Bondz stuff!

No neener neenering!


Picture of Secret President giving secret hand gestures of the 24th hierarchy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. Weird. I was at a university a few days ago.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:12 PM
Apr 2013

Never been there before. I logged into their guest account and everything loaded fine EXCEPT DU. It wasn't that big a deal to me so I didn't bother to investigate. But I wonder if the university itself had DU blocked for some reason.

Other news sites were fine.

But an ISP would not be blocking news sites at all.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
36. I spend 5 days a week on the campus of the largest public university in the US.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:14 PM
Apr 2013

Never had a problem exclusively loading DU.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. I think people may often assign nefarious motivations and attributes to unnamed agencies and other e
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:20 PM
Apr 2013

I think people may often assign nefarious motivations and attributes to unnamed agencies and other entities in order to tell ourselves we are actually primary players and stars in a political-thriller movie instead of simply and sedately living our lives-- in or not in quiet desperation.

A slowly loading page or a glitch in a server is so much less dramatic than the imaginary bullseye on our foreheads-- that very forehead being targeted as we type by a shadow helicopter who is accessing, collating, and assessing every word we right... (and every thought we think too, for the paranoiac who must have everything)

synapticwave

(52 posts)
37. Good Luck...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

It's definitely your ISP. Same thing happened to me. I guarantee they are coming for you. Better get a VPN service now before they shut you down completely. I use https://www.boxpn.com/.

good luck fellow conspirator!

<-- in case it's not obvious

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
42. I hadn't noticed
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:29 PM
Apr 2013

I've been too busy gluing rhinestones to my tinfoil hat to notice if this site is loading slowly. I can tell you that the FOX website would not load videos for me yesterday. I figured it's because my computer is a commie.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
70. I suggest gold foil over the tin foil
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:07 PM
Apr 2013

That way when the economy completely collapses you are totally covered......

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
49. These sorts of things are usually technical glitches, not hostile action.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:45 PM
Apr 2013

Or maybe Skinner hit you with the hellban, and DU itself is toying with you!

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
56. Isn't the answer to not post conspiracy theories denying Boston and Conn. happened?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Apr 2013

for those that post that crap.

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
66. Did you try clearing out your browser's cache and deleting cookies?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:27 PM
Apr 2013

Old stuff hanging around in a browser's cache can cause all sorts of havoc with certain sites. The procedure varies depending on the browser, but basically you (1) delete the cache; (2) delete any cookies related to the site you are having trouble with; and then (3) close and reopen your browser.

REP

(21,691 posts)
67. I must be hell-raiser #1 because sometimes the server stops responding altogether
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:30 PM
Apr 2013

Or wait, maybe I know how this shit actually works.

I've been online since you placed the telephone handset into the modem, n00b.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
76. I was assuming this was a joke at first, but now I'm not so sure...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:17 PM
Apr 2013

If serious, perhaps my lame posts were in bad taste. I really don't want to contribute to or mock anyone's serious delusions.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
77. I had that happen here in red/red land! When loading the URL for DU I suddenly
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:25 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Wed May 1, 2013, 11:44 AM - Edit history (2)

started getting something like URL invalid, and their DNS server listed DU as an invalid lookup. It really does no good to complain to the ISP here. I switched my DNS to OpenDNS and the problem cleared. I also use VPN. OpenDNS is generally all one needs.

For more information on this see: DNS hijacking (this is very very real) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hijacking

DNS hijacking or DNS redirection is the practice of subverting the resolution of Domain Name System (DNS) queries. This can be achieved by malware that overrides a computer's TCP/IP configuration to point at a rogue DNS server under the control of an attacker, or through modifying the behaviour of a trusted DNS server so that it does not comply with internet standards.
These modifications may be made for malicious purposes such as phishing, or for self-serving purposes by Internet service providers (ISPs) to direct users' web traffic to the ISP's own web servers where advertisements can be served, statistics collected, or other purposes of the ISP; and by DNS service providers to block access to selected domains as a form of censorship.


PS: DU was just one of many. Also, it's a revenue generator for some ISPs (advertising - clicks). Search on the net some and all of this is quite well documented. Here, they went one step further than that. Generally using OpenDNS for DNS instead of ones ISP DNS is all that's needed. One can also set their router to use OpenDNS for DNS for all devices on that respective router. It's easy to get paranoid in red/red land ... but giving this ISP some credit, I think they were doing it for ad-click-revenue. They might be targeting frequented sites by users so they get lots of redirects for revenue.

This was not malware, it was specific to the ISP here and their advertising. We also run rather secure systems.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
130. You can use OpenDNS or Google's DNS servers.
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:22 AM
May 2013

Generally, if you're using a router, there should be a setting in your router's config pages to set a static DNS server & backup server.

For OpenDNS, the servers are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220

For Google, their DNS servers are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

Even when your own ISP isn't doing shenanigans, using OpenDNS or Google for your DNS may give you a small performance boost.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
137. If only there were some way you could get the word out about this.
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:13 PM
May 2013

Have you let anyone else know about this important post?

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
138. Only on DU via this thread. I don't know how prevalent this is across internet-land. I've seen some
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:28 PM
May 2013

blogs talking about it ... I had no idea it was going on ... and when it first happen here it was a major WTF. At first, I thought DU was down. ... then I thought it was my system. Then I saw it was across all systems here ... that's when I started researching it some on the net ... initially I thought I was getting a bit too paranoid about it all.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
82. Could not help but notice...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:03 PM
Apr 2013

Many of the names on replies here with one line responses focused on me, and not the message, are some who have reacted the same when I posted about Fukushima, e-Vote theft, and anti-Bush.

Guess what, they were wrong about Fukushima, e-Vote theft and wrong about protecting Bush, whose administration was the most criminal ever.

So, readers keep that in mind.


I have a statistics box that shows the kbs. Here's the thing, my average speed in usually about 300kbs. The Big sites still load that fast. Images on and all. Du is averaging 10 kbs, with many seconds dead gaps.

For years now the data providers have been wanting to divide the internet. The top would be the Big sites; the bankers favorites. And those getting throttled would be the smaller sites like DU. That is history. It's a fact.

And my ISP, a Very big company, has a filtering system offered to customers so that they pick and choose which sites can be accessed. Those are facts and I think for some reason they are practicing on me.



 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
83. Let me get this straight: If someone thinks you're seeing things that aren't there about Fukushima
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 10:38 PM
Apr 2013

then they must also think President* Bush was awesome?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
94. I've resisted posting so far but what are you saying? What DUers protected Bush? Who was wrong about
Wed May 1, 2013, 01:06 AM
May 2013

e-voting theft? Which of the Many One Line Response posters do you mean? What?

Finally, what company do you work for? Does it happen when you try to access DU from "not at work"?

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
105. Absolutely delusional thinking.
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:58 AM
May 2013

Yes, ISPs are *capable* of filtering traffic, but what makes you so special that they would "practice" on you?

And why not block DU altogether? Why am I still seeing your posts if you're the victim of some terrible conspiracy?

My guess is you've just got something wrong with your computer or network, and you'd rather be really really dramatic rather than find the actual issue.

You, in the big scheme, are not that important to "them."

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
109. "they are practicing on me"
Wed May 1, 2013, 06:22 AM
May 2013

It's possible that that happened years ago.


I'm adding this text to prevent this from being a one line response. I wouldn't want you to think I'm working for your ISP.

Stinky The Clown

(67,798 posts)
86. Oh yeah? Well lemme tell ya what *real* trouble is . . . . my laptop is leaking out of the USB ports
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:58 PM
Apr 2013

I am constantly blowing datadust off the table it sits on. I put it into my briefcase once and when I went through the TSA checkpoint at the airport, they got all upset and tested the dust. I was made to go thru the peep show machine three times.

Seriously though. The USB ports are a sort Internet Black Hole. If this leak keeps up, it may tilt the whole Internet toward my laptop, following this obvious low pressure point.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
89. That's good...
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:14 AM
May 2013

You must realize though, that the USB ports that became sort of a black hole could never have reached that status, were it not for the efforts of a wm asshole...

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
100. Could be a node down between you and DU.
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:08 AM
May 2013

That will effect some users and not others. They can be next door to each other and experience different connection problems.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
104. Turn off the power strip. Unplug your computer from the wall outlet.
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:26 AM
May 2013

Plug back in, reboot.

Works for me.

Also, stop trying to access DU from your workstation.

--> want some?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
106. I run a fair size block of IP addresses
Wed May 1, 2013, 04:02 AM
May 2013

I do my own DNS, reverse, the works. I find issues that are unexplained by the sources and have to circumvent those nodes to get the best throughput. There are tracking sites that make life hell for a few but not all, and I have to find ways around them like, edge.quantserve and pixel.quantserve. These guys don't allow you to download sites for 1 or 2 minutes unless you give them the tracking info they want... and they do a great job of getting away with it and making Internet traffic hell. Try turning off your java script and reloading the page. That will get you around the tracking hangs. Turn java back on when you need it. See what happens. Sometimes the magic works.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
122. Thank you for your sanity! We had similar problems as the OP and
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:45 AM
May 2013

we traced it to the ISP having redirected searches for advertising and also for redirecting a number of democratic sites as invalid (and others). Some ISPs do this as a revenue generator ... for clicks. So, they redirect the DNS for lookups ... here, they went one step further and started listing a number of sites as invalid including DU. In my post #77 is what we did. Thanks for your sanity. So many of the replies to the OP are silly.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
108. I must say that in my 12 years here at DU..
Wed May 1, 2013, 05:38 AM
May 2013

You're one of the oddest members that have ever hit this forum.

Now get out of your basement and play in the park today.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
111. At least he is not due beer and travel money...
Wed May 1, 2013, 08:34 AM
May 2013

and many experiences.

<Insert Dire Straits video library here>

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
120. Maybe it's your username...
Wed May 1, 2013, 09:34 AM
May 2013

Try logging out, and log in with your old account, the one you abandoned in Feb 2012.

See if you have the same problem using your old username.

Sid

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