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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:47 AM Apr 2013

Money actually does buy happiness

By Derrick Thompson,
Americans have a peculiar conviction that the one thing money can’t give us is satisfaction. You can’t buy happiness, we’ve all been told. “Mo Money Mo Problems”, Biggie concurred. And while we can all agree that desperate poverty is hideous, there is a broadly held view that after a certain level of income (around $75,000, say), more money doesn’t buy more well-being.

But it’s just not so. Economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers have been arguing for years that, yes, richer families tend to be happier, and no, there is not an automatic cut-off point. In other words: Mo money, fewer problems.

Their elegant and straightforward new paper can be nicely summed up in the two graphs below. The first graph looks at income groups within countries. In all nations surveyed, richer households reported more life satisfaction. (Statistical note: This graph is logarithmic. That means doubling your income from $1,000 to $2,000 raises satisfaction by the same amount as doubling your income from $10,000 to $20,000. You can imagine why this might make a good theoretical case for income redistribution.)

The next graph compares different countries, rather than different households within countries. Here, each circle represents a nation, with the richest ones clustered on the right. If extra income didn’t matter for well-being, you’d expect the line to flatten. Instead, it steepens. More money doesn’t just mean happier families. It means happier countries.


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Money actually does buy happiness (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2013 OP
Money cant buy love, but have enough money, love will be beating the door down to get to you Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #1
Well we learned from Charlie Sheen Savannahmann Apr 2013 #2
heheh, true! Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #3
The only act of 'love' that Charlie Sheen engages in is geek tragedy Apr 2013 #5
Poor people have known this for a long time Marrah_G Apr 2013 #4
Money can't guarantee happiness, but it can make it a lot more likely. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #6
Word choice matters. SheilaT Apr 2013 #9
And, conversely, when people have enough money that they stop struggling geek tragedy Apr 2013 #10
Yep. I've been fairly poor SheilaT Apr 2013 #11
All Steve Jobs money couldn't buy happiness nor life. He died like anyone else. Money can't buy love graham4anything Apr 2013 #7
Lack of money is a cause of much unhappiness. DavidDvorkin Apr 2013 #8
But people in poor countries are often more cheerful. CJCRANE Apr 2013 #12
Money can't buy love... or happiness... Bigmack Apr 2013 #13
money can't buy love d_r Apr 2013 #14
money allows you to avoid doing things you don't want to do Johonny Apr 2013 #15
I've been poor and I've had money. I'm a hell of a lot happier with money than without! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #16
one of my favourite bumper stickers: "people who say money can't buy happiness just don't know niyad Apr 2013 #17
When a washing machine failure throws your household in a tizzy because you can't afford ... Scuba Apr 2013 #18
Yes it does. To a point. Taverner Apr 2013 #19
Of course it does. Iggo Apr 2013 #20

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
4. Poor people have known this for a long time
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:54 AM
Apr 2013

It's hard to stay chipper and positive when you are constantly struggling to survive.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. Word choice matters.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

As you posted, money can't guarantee happiness. It's hard to be cheerful when you're constantly struggling to make ends meet.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. And, conversely, when people have enough money that they stop struggling
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:07 PM
Apr 2013

and can think about getting and doing stuff they actually want, life does get more enjoyable. It's just amazing how that works.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. Yep. I've been fairly poor
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:13 PM
Apr 2013

at various times in my life, although I've always been able to at least pay my bills and buy food, even when there was nothing left over. I've also been semi-affluent, where there's been enough extra to have various luxuries, go on vacation, and so on. I know for sure which one is better.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. All Steve Jobs money couldn't buy happiness nor life. He died like anyone else. Money can't buy love
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 11:57 AM
Apr 2013

And back in older days, they didn't have the whine to partake in that is available now.

Inner peace is not bought and sold. Neither is love, or like.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
12. But people in poor countries are often more cheerful.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

That's anecdotal of course, but that's usually been the case in my experience.

niyad

(113,288 posts)
17. one of my favourite bumper stickers: "people who say money can't buy happiness just don't know
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:39 PM
Apr 2013

where to shop"

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
18. When a washing machine failure throws your household in a tizzy because you can't afford ...
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:23 PM
Apr 2013

... a new one, it's stressful.

Duh.

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