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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:58 AM Apr 2013

Biden Backs Public Disclosure of Torture Report

Biden Backs Public Disclosure of Torture Report
By Niels Lesniewski
Roll Call Staff
April 27, 2013, 1:53 p.m.



Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said Friday night that he supports making a classified Senate Intelligence Committee report on torture and enhanced interrogation more available to the public.

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Speaking about the classified Senate Intelligence report on the use of torture or enhanced interrogation by the United States, Biden suggested that his personal view is that he agrees with McCain that more information should be made public, while he noted it has been the subject of intense debate at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.

“Now this voluminous study has been done,” Biden said. “And the internal debate that goes on in the Congress and in the White House is, do we go back and do we expose it? Do we lay out who was responsible and how we got to where we are?”

“It offends the fundamentals of what kind of country we are, and the practical side of it is, don’t think it didn’t damage the United States’ image in the world in ways that we’ll be paying for for years to come,” McCain said, noting his support for disclosing more details of what happened.

“It is not resolved yet, John, but I’m where you are. I think the only way you excise the demons is you acknowledge, you acknowledge exactly what happened straightforward,” Biden said. He explained his position that issues related to torture must be laid out before a country can move beyond them, citing the war crimes committed in the Balkans and other acts of torture overseas.

“The single best thing that ever happened to Germany were the war crimes tribunals, because it forced Germany to come to its milk about what in fact has happened,” Biden said. “That’s why they’ve become the great democracy they’ve become.”

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Biden Backs Public Disclosure of Torture Report (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2013 OP
It certainly shattered my childhood view of what the US was all about. I think it should be in the RKP5637 Apr 2013 #1
"Who better to champion this than Biden and McCain?" AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #5
k&r... spanone Apr 2013 #2
Start by releasing the Torture Report pmorlan1 Apr 2013 #3
Until the White House adopts the "private view" of VP Biden that the government's report should be AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #4
Biden says that's his "PERSONAL" view. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #6
Hmm. He moved the LGBT issue front and center BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #7

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
1. It certainly shattered my childhood view of what the US was all about. I think it should be in the
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:18 AM
Apr 2013

open so the healing process can begin. I think it's given the US a horrible reputation. Get it ALL out in the open, and let the guilty parties sulk, they should be exposed ... and who better to champion this than Biden and McCain.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
5. "Who better to champion this than Biden and McCain?"
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:37 AM
Apr 2013

Some people would think that it would be those who have been actively trying to get the truth regarding torture under the authority of the U.S. government released to the public.

The results of the Constitution Project Task Force's Report on Detainee Treatment can be read online here:
http://detaineetaskforce.org/read/
and downloaded from here:
http://detaineetaskforce.org/pdf/Full-Report.pdf

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
3. Start by releasing the Torture Report
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:24 AM
Apr 2013
“The single best thing that ever happened to Germany were the war crimes tribunals, because it forced Germany to come to its milk about what in fact has happened,” Biden said. “That’s why they’ve become the great democracy they’ve becom
e.”

Not only do I agree that the Torture report should be made public but I also advocate that we have war crimes tribunals. The American people deserve to know what was done in their name and the people who were responsible for these heinous crimes must be held accountable.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
4. Until the White House adopts the "private view" of VP Biden that the government's report should be
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:33 AM
Apr 2013

released, the detailed and extensive report of the torture in the Constitution Project Task Force's Report on Detainee Treatment can be read online here:
http://detaineetaskforce.org/read/

and downloaded from here:
http://detaineetaskforce.org/pdf/Full-Report.pdf

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. Biden says that's his "PERSONAL" view.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:42 AM
Apr 2013

He walks on both sides of the street on this one:

“Now this voluminous study has been done,” Biden said. “And the internal debate that goes on in the Congress and in the White House is, do we go back and do we expose it? Do we lay out who was responsible and how we got to where we are?”


BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
7. Hmm. He moved the LGBT issue front and center
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:03 PM
Apr 2013

with his personal remark. Maybe this is the tipping point and we can send the criminals to the Hague. * can then spend the rest of his life painting his cell bars.

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